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Old 08-02-2011, 01:16 PM   #76
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some say october, some say september, while others say next year.

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I don't think any one wins until Apple does the actual announcement.
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:39 PM   #78
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is it better to wait for Iphone 5 or go with the current Iphone 4. my contract is up in November.. doing research now for a phone(s). Current BB user .
If your BB has no issues right now, I would wait until the iPhone 5 comes out, and negotiate a better plan, with the iPhone 5. Especially if you plan on signing a long term contract, and not upgrading your phone until your contract expires.

What ended up happening for me was when the iPhone 3GS came out, I bought the 3G. Currently my 3G is not supported by Apple anymore, which means no new iOS updates. Also installing the last update that was supported for the 3G, has made my phone very slow. Snail speed compared to my friends 3GS/4. I regret not buying the 3GS at the time, it would have made my phone more usable until my contract expired.
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is it better to wait for Iphone 5 or go with the current Iphone 4. my contract is up in November.. doing research now for a phone(s). Current BB user .
The iPhone 5 is better and only 2 months away. Pretty obvious answer...iphone 2g.
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is it better to wait for Iphone 5 or go with the current Iphone 4. my contract is up in November.. doing research now for a phone(s). Current BB user .
wait for it... id wait a bit... theres like 5 new black berry phones out too now.... cuz u can always get bb and itouch4g which i mite do. but yea... just wait a bit ahaha and november is more than enough time so i wouldnt worry doing all the research.
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When I eventually update my phone to iOS5, will my jailbroken changes all be removed and will Cydia be removed also?
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^Yes. Everytime you update you will have to rejailbreak.
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can't wait till IOS5 comes out.. it'll breathe new life into the iPhone4.. for sure.
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I like to be a sheep so I buy an iphone.

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Ya, no more Archaic Notifications.. and probably will be able to attach photos to existing email replys..

Notifications centre should already be a huge change, and at least catch up to Android.

I'm pretty dissapointed at the shitty apple keyboard, and probably no plans to integrate Swype anytime soon.
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^ Of all the features in iOS 5 the one that is the "killer feature" is iCloud. By far.
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Ya, no more Archaic Notifications.. and probably will be able to attach photos to existing email replys..

Notifications centre should already be a huge change, and at least catch up to Android.

I'm pretty dissapointed at the shitty apple keyboard, and probably no plans to integrate Swype anytime soon.
If you are expecting it to be like Android's notification, you are going to be disappointed. It's definitely better than it used to be though. In any case, it won't really make your phone feel like 'new' IMO.

Some parts of icloud are cool, like being able to download music you already purchased, but the DOCS part of it.. I guess it will come down to whether you prefer using it or Google Apps or Office 365. Only one of which is free
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Ya, no more Archaic Notifications.. and probably will be able to attach photos to existing email replys..

Notifications centre should already be a huge change, and at least catch up to Android.

I'm pretty dissapointed at the shitty apple keyboard, and probably no plans to integrate Swype anytime soon.
I'm on iOS5 and while it's a much needed update, it won't BLOW your mind like you're expecting it to.

I did, however, use Notified Pro from Cydia on 4.3 so the iOS5 notification center isn't TOTALLY new to me. Although it is obviously much cleaner and better in every way.

About the e-mail client. No, there is no still no "attach image" feature on it.

Haven't done much with iCloud but other than backing up on their servers, I don't have much use for it since the iPhone is the only Apple product I have.

Wifi iTunes Syncing is useful.

I really wish that rather than just updating it to keep up with the Android OS, they added something that the Android does not have. I REALLLYYYYYYYY useful feature and one that I was hoping they would implement is quick replies. ie. being able to click on the notification either in the pop-up or in the notification center and beable to quickly send out a reply without switching apps. (like BiteSMS pretty much).

They hired Peter Hajas to help build the notification center and in his Cydia app, MobileNotifier, it had a quick reply feature for SMS so why couldn't they add that too?

The Youtube app is untouched. It's pretty much the same as it was in 2007 which is VERY outdated. I use it a lot and it's raelly frustrating not being able to share videos to Facebook easily.

Hmmmmm, too hungry to think of anything else but ya. It's not a mind blowing update by any means.


After using iOS5 it made me want to switch to Android even more.
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afaik MobileNotifier didn't use iOS' very limited "multitasking" "properly", which is why it can only be installed on jailbroken devices.
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Anyone remember the "That's a gorgeous brain" scene from Avatar where the guy swipes his hand from the desktop "screen" to his "tablet" and the image transferred over and he continued working on the "tablet"?

That's iCloud.

It's not file syncing. It's not Google Docs or Office 365 or Dropbox or SkyDrive. Although it can do the same types of functions, it goes far beyond any of them.

When I get time later, I'll post up a detailed description of iCloud and why it's so different from the others.
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I have a weird dead pixel only when I open my apps. When I go back to my main screens it doesn't show..... anyone explain this? :S
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iOS 5.0 beta 5 is out and its pretty good so far it has changed a lot since the first week when I got it. Anyone else using it yet?
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I'm still on beta 4. Not much difference from what I read.
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iCloud Explained:

As I mentioned in the other thread regarding iOS and Android multitasking, there's the idea of "states". Since iOS and Android can both terminate an application whenever they want without user intervention, they also need a way to bring the user back to the same "state" as they were when they last used the application. To quote the Android developer website again:

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If a user later returns to an application that's been killed, Android needs a way to re-launch it in the same state as it was last seen, to preserve the "all applications are running all of the time" experience. This is done by keeping track of the parts of the application the user is aware of (the Activities), and re-starting them with information about the last state they were seen in.
Anyone use Firefox? Have you tried out the syncing capability? For those that haven't, FF can sync your bookmarks, passwords, browsing history, tabs and so on between computers (Chrome has something similar). It does this by storing information on their server (attached to your account) and making it available to FF on a different computer or mobile device. FF can even remember your last browsing session and make it available for you on another device.

This is the idea of "states", except instead of launching an App on a mobile device that was previously "killed" or "closed" you're preserving the "state" of what you were doing and continuing those tasks on another device.

This is the heart of iCloud. The idea that any task you were performing on one device can be continued on another seamlessly as if you never actually changed devices.

Some people think this is no different than Google Docs or Dropbox. Right now I can open a document on one machine, close it and then open it again when I get home on a different machine using several online services. This is nothing new - people have been doing it with servers for years.

So what's so different about iCloud vs some other form of cloud based storage? I'll explain that part later (sorry, off to work).
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