You basically did the same thing...Although you said "get whatever phone you think is best" you went off listing why you have a Blackberry and why it is superior (i.e. battery life.)

If you're so sick of the topic, why waste your time reading the thread or posting? Is there some sort of new forum rule that forces you to read every thread whether you like it or not? I must've missed that memo...

And obviously your phone is a little more than communication device. 1) you're concerned about your battery life meaning you don't want to end up having to go without a phone...2) you use it for Facebook and social media is hardly a necessity when it comes to "communications."

I think you're in denial or you're mad because you probably just renewed your contract to get that Blackberry and now you're stuck with that shit phone and can't afford to buy in the unlocked market.

if you had all the money in the world to buy any other phone, you would think otherwise. just sayin.:p

I recently had to decide...goto iphone4 or stick with Android..
this is coming from a NexusOne that I have used since the release

I have access to almost all the new phones out there so I at least get a feel of everything.
To be honest, for myself, its PRODUCTIVITY > Anything

I use G-apps extensively, yes, Google Calender works "well" with the iPhone, but its the other things such as the very powerful Gmail app as well as the contact sync.

iOS is a great system, but the way Google has expanded their applications and how some people use it extensively really makes it difficult to get into an iPhone

Android has got the PRODUCTIVITY part for the smartphone done perfectly. iPhone although can be great, has some ways to go. this is what iCloud will try to do.

Then we will see...

funny thing is..i swear by apple...but i guess for myself, my definition for a smartphone is productivity. i couldnt give two shits about playing angrybirds

I use contact sync with iOS - you just need to set up an exchange account, which works with gmail. Gmail calendars work as well - we use it all the time for work to set meetings, etc.

Yah, the common mistake people do is they setup their iPhones using the gMail sync option. In order to do it the correct way and take full advantage of the gMail sync, you should set it up as an Exchange Server. This way your contacts are synced, along with your emails and calender(s).

I use both an iPhone and Android device. The iPhone I use more for entertainment and for ease of use. Let's face it, it's simple. The software is made for dummies purposely so that EVERYONE can use it with ease.

However, I do prefer doing my day to day tasks on the android. Emails, messaging, browsing, etc. I like having widgets and being able to simply see everything on my home screen rather than having to open up a folder then an app etc. just to see the weather forecast.

Er... no... he listed off why HE prefers the BB. He didn't say you had to like it for the same reasons.

He's absolutely right, and he makes the same point I do when people ask what kind of camera to get: use the one that YOU like. In the end, you're the one using it, so what someone else thinks of it doesn't mean shit.

Likewise, I haven't seen anyone else say that I have to like one phone or the other...They're simply giving their inputs and opinions. He said it was pointless to do that yet he felt the need to give his opinion and his insights...So yeah, he kind of did do the exact thing he was complaining about.

Majority of the people in this thread, ARE listing off why they prefer one phone or OS over the other and NOT saying that everyone else should like it.

Also, just because you feel that you don't need guidance on a particular lens doesn't mean that someone else does. Every person is different and some feel more comfortable being guided towards something from someone else who has more experience in the field. It's like going to a restaurant and asking what the waiter recommends. I personally wouldn't do it, but it's perfectly justifiable for someone else to ask...:D

Same thing when it comes to watching reviews of phones on youtube or reading them on blogs. Reviews aren't official, they're simply opinions; so why bother watching them? Because peoples' thoughts and opinions give us insights and view points that we may not have considered. I watch reviews from as many people as I can because although they may be bringing up similar points, there is a chance that some of them may bring up new things/issues/pros or cons that I may have overlooked. That is why, a thread like this, isn't useless and may serve a productive function to some.

^this is true. I have learned a lot about the android from this thread and am tempted to switch over.

I just learned something new about iMessage that upsets me.

the group chat function isn't as advanced as I thought it'd be.

You can't invite people into the chat at any given time. You basically send a message to x number of people and those will be the people in the chat room. If you wanna add another person later on, you'll have to make a new one.

I don't see the point in using imessage, when there is whatsapp which lets you message ALL your contacts, regardless of what platform they prefer.

Overclocked my Desire HD to 1.3 GHz :D

You do know iOS 5 and iMessage are in beta right now and the feature list isn't finalized yet?

Because nobody uses Whatsapp (outside of The Netherlands which has an unusually high adoption rate). Oh, they have millions of users, but the installed base of Whatsapp vs the number of smartphones means that most users don't have Whatsapp.

And where did you get the idea iMessage won't let you message all your contacts, even if they're on a different platform?

:seriously: are you really that ignorant, or are you just acting like a twat on purpose?

From apple.com:

"You can send unlimited text messages via Wi-Fi or 3G from your ipad, iphone, or ipod touch to anyone with one of those devices".

You can SMS with it too, but that's separate (because it's SMS, not ip based).

All my friends are on whatsapp. So I dunno what you're talking about here.

^ Doesn't mean a thing. Your experience can't be applied to the entire population. I don't have Whatsapp and neither does anyone I know. I would never claim that it has never sold. Just because 100% of your friends have an App doesn't mean 100% of all users have the same App.

However, as an example, Whatsapp hasn't even hit the 10 million user mark for Android. How many Android devices are out there (at 500,000 activations per day, a hell of a lot). Current estimates put Whatsapp at something over 20 million users total (most on iPhone and Android). That's a fraction of the total number of smartphone users.


SkinnyPupp: Your original post implied that iMessage wouldn't let you message people who were on different platforms, which is false. iMessage will let you communicate with other platforms - the messages will simply be sent using SMS instead of IP if iMessage detects the other person doesn't have iMessage.

This is exactly how Whatsapp works if it detects the other person doesn't have Whatsapp installed on their phone. The big difference being that Whatsapp is not nearly as widespread as people think.

Dont worry they'll change it in ios6. It will be revolutionary!:fullofwin: Hahahah

I couldnt give two shits how popular whatsapp is or isnt or could give a flying fuck how iMessage is so revolutionary.

As long as I can reach my friends, I'm ok
Hell..the most reliable is the txt or just make the damn phone call

I was simply replying to:

I could give a crap about what's better. I use it and everyone else I know uses it because we can talk to users on iOS, BB, and Android in a unified interface that's common across all platforms.

i bet if you installed it you would be very surprised to see that many of your friends use it. how can you say this with such certainty? :facepalm:
you'll say anything to make your point sound stronger.

^ Way to miss the point. Why take a snip of what I said and make an assumption? I already stated in my post that because I don't use something doesn't mean it doesn't sell. Same thing as assuming because you use something that everyone does.

Sticking to facts, less than about 10% of smartphone users use Whatsapp. This is based on the actual number of smartphones in the market that can run Whatsapp divided by the number of people who have downloaded Whatsapp. Don't know why that's such a hard concept to grab.
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I know it's in beta. But how much do you want to bet that it won't be in the finalized product?

It's too big of a feature (by Apple's standard's) to be implemented now.

I can see it in future updates (5.1? 5.3?) but it won't be in the iOS 5 release.

Dude, SMS and data-used apps are not the same. Whatsapp lets you communicate cross-platform via DATA. iMessage is only on iOS and BBM only on Blackberries. That's the point is he making.

as long as it's encrypted. thats why i'd use it.

Anyone arguing the merits of Blackberry...well, they're just wrong.

Say what you want about the encrypted BBM or the physical keyboard but as far as capability and features, Blackberry is just crippled compared to Android and iOS. No, you might not need to watch YouTube or whatever but the fact of the matter is, Android and iOS just dwarfs Blackberry when it comes to smartphones.

iMessage and BBM are encrypted.

Unless something has changed in the last month or so, WhatsApp is not encrypted. Some things are encrypted, but messages end up going out plain text. On the iPhone traffic is routed over port 5222. On everything else it's port 443 (https:// - which makes many people assume everything is encrypted, which isn't the case).

And for people complaining about the recent cases of Apple and Google keeping a log of your location, you should see what WhatsApp keeps in its database files (GPS location tied to actual message history, browsing history and more). Makes Apple and Google look like saints.