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godwin 07-08-2011 08:49 PM

Inconel is a trade name for nickel based alloy, much like Panadol is trade name for acetaminophen. There are might millions of inconel turbine wheels for diesel.. but not for gasoline engine it is still very relatively rare.

It doesn't make much of a difference in rotating assembling, but it makes a lot of difference in complexity and reliability.. also the final system weight.. eg you don't need a wastegate and a more compact packinging... things that Porsche cares.

To make spool faster is the lower the PSI.. make the whole thing smaller.. yes it has nothing to do with the nickel, but if you look again what I wrote, I didn't say that.

Which other turbo that can handle 2000F as you mention that is commercially available and for gasoline engine?

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Originally Posted by sdubfid (Post 7504968)
You stated inconel was lighter and spools quicker which is not true. Then you changed it to nickel. It's nothing special, there are millions of vehicles with inconel turbine wheels. Mechanical or electronic vgt actuation makes no difference on the rotating assembly weight. The only difference mechanical or electrical will have is on spool time is because the electronics will allow more parameters for feedback for better tuning.

I am not sure what the testing requirements are for gasoline vgt systems like on that 997 but I have seen diesel vgt turbos operate on the test stand at work over 2000F.


sdubfid 07-08-2011 10:32 PM

My work makes ~1000 turbos per month and sells more. All inconel wheels friction welded to 4140 shafts. Used on gasoline and diesel engines.

Most failures are oil related, or ait filter related.

Holset 351ve vgt most commonly found on the 6.7L cummins has been used on gas applications (not by oem).

I think we are talking apples and oranges. I'm just saying that inconel is not new to turbos or rare. Maybe in the vgt/vnt system it may be but not turbine wheels.


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