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07-07-2011, 02:19 PM
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The BMW M3 has grown cylinders over the years like a pubescent pre-teen grows in height. What started out with an inline-four then grew into a straight-six for two generations before packing a V8 into the current model. The next one is expected to set to drop a couple of combustion chambers and go back to a single bank, but don't think for one minute that'll mean a drop in performance.
According to the rumormongers at AutoExpress, the next-generation M3, due sometime around 2014 after the new 3 Series comes along, will pack – wait for it – a triple-turbo straight-six. The innovative arrangement will reportedly include two conventional spools powered off exhaust gases and a third electric turbocharger. Total output could be around 450 horsepower – a bump over the current V8 model's 414 hp – with even more carbon fiber bits than the CRT edition pictured above to help keep weight down.
Not exciting enough? BMW's M division has plenty more in the cards, potentially including an oft-rumored new M1 supercar and, once the 1 Series M Coupe is done its production run, a lightweight CSL version. An M version of the Z4 is also under consideration, but of course nothing final until the cars make their debuts
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wow triple turbo..
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07-07-2011, 03:50 PM
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#2 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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I like the "bigger is better" methodology. Should do a v8 with twinturbos. That would be hot
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07-07-2011, 04:19 PM
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V8 does have twin turbos.. one on each bank? Quote:
Originally Posted by 604_EJ1  I like the "bigger is better" methodology. Should do a v8 with twinturbos. That would be hot | | |
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07-07-2011, 04:21 PM
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#4 | | 2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
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With the advanced of material sciences and the wider availability of inconel. Turbos lasts much longer, most importantly lighter. It makes spool ups much quicker.
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07-07-2011, 04:29 PM
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#5 | | My name is ANDREW
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Originally Posted by godwin V8 does have twin turbos.. one on each bank? | The current gen m3 has a n/a v8 Posted via RS Mobile | |
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07-07-2011, 04:38 PM
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#6 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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Originally Posted by kayceeee
wow triple turbo..
| whoa.... double turbo all the way across the bay..omg wow whooaaaa OMG OMMG! ooohhhhhh i think its turning into a triple turbo.
what does this mean?
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07-07-2011, 04:49 PM
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The BMW M3 has grown cylinders over the years like a pubescent pre-teen grows in height. What started out with an inline-four then grew into a straight-six for two generations before packing a V8 into the current model. The next one is expected to set to drop a couple of combustion chambers and go back to a single bank, but don't think for one minute that'll mean a drop in performance.
According to the rumormongers at AutoExpress, the next-generation M3, due sometime around 2014 after the new 3 Series comes along, will pack – wait for it – a triple-turbo straight-six. The innovative arrangement will reportedly include two conventional spools powered off exhaust gases and a third electric turbocharger. Total output could be around 450 horsepower – a bump over the current V8 model's 414 hp – with even more carbon fiber bits than the CRT edition pictured above to help keep weight down.
| LOL first thing I thought of: .JPG)
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07-07-2011, 08:00 PM
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#8 | | Trollollolloing RS sine 2005
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Originally Posted by 604_EJ1 I like the "bigger is better" methodology. Should do a v8 with twinturbos. That would be hot | then the M3 will be no different than the m5/m6
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Originally Posted by 1exotic Vtec doesn't kick in on Reverse. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma its like.. oh yeah oh yeah.. ohhhh yeah... OOoooOohh... why's it suddenly feel a bit better... ohhhh yeahh... ohhh...oh..fuck... it probably ripped. | | |
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07-07-2011, 09:00 PM
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#9 | | NOOB, Not Quite a Regular!
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Originally Posted by TOPEC then the M3 will be no different than the m5/m6 | M6 has a 5.0L v10
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07-07-2011, 09:20 PM
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the newest M5 is gonna run a 4.4 twin turbo V8...
i bet the upcoming M6 is gonna run the same engine...
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07-07-2011, 09:28 PM
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#11 | | Trollollolloing RS sine 2005
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Originally Posted by spike_spiegel M6 has a 5.0L v10 | so?
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Originally Posted by 1exotic Vtec doesn't kick in on Reverse. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma its like.. oh yeah oh yeah.. ohhhh yeah... OOoooOohh... why's it suddenly feel a bit better... ohhhh yeahh... ohhh...oh..fuck... it probably ripped. | | |
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07-07-2011, 09:52 PM
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#12 | | I am Hook'd on RS
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im still not use to the newer m3 look still liking the older models
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07-07-2011, 10:01 PM
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#13 | | NOOB, Not Quite a Regular!
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Originally Posted by TOPEC so? | so it's not a twin turbo v8
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07-07-2011, 10:07 PM
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#14 | | RS.net, where our google ads make absolutely no sense!
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Isn't an electric turbocharger...just a supercharger?
So it will have supercharging and turbocharging. VW has a 1.4L Twincharged engine just like that now.
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07-07-2011, 10:22 PM
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#15 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Next m5 rendition will be a "wussy" v8  oh man, the notes from that v10..... Posted via RS Mobile | |
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07-08-2011, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by godwin With the advanced of material sciences and the wider availability of inconel. Turbos lasts much longer, most importantly lighter. It makes spool ups much quicker. | Correction: With the advancements in metallurgy, inconel is old school. Titanium-aluminide or TiAl is probably what you are thinking of. Another way to reduce weight is with a billet compressor wheel. I weighed my cast gt28 comp wheel vs my gt28 billet wheel and the billet wheel is 20% lighter. This is on a small turbo.
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07-08-2011, 05:12 AM
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still like the e46 look by far..
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07-08-2011, 06:21 AM
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#18 | | I answer every Emotion with an emoticon
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07-08-2011, 09:21 AM
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#19 | | Who's naughty? I___i
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doesn't turbo cost a lot to replace?
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07-08-2011, 09:31 AM
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#20 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by Szeto doesn't turbo cost a lot to replace? | What's with the ridiculous comments on this thread? Looks like a GTR thread.
Sure they can be expensive, why do you ask?
You don't replace the Turbos with the engine oil Posted via RS Mobile | |
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07-08-2011, 11:58 AM
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#21 | | 2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
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No. BV50G, the turbo unit used in the 997 Turbo is still uses inconel/ nickel for the high temperature components. The advancement is the lowering of cost of the nickel based components. However it is still too expensive to craft a turbo that can with stand 1000C for cars cheaper than that. The lightening up is also due to better / more reliable sensors so they can use electronics for the variable geometry. Quote:
Originally Posted by sdubfid Correction: With the advancements in metallurgy, inconel is old school. Titanium-aluminide or TiAl is probably what you are thinking of. Another way to reduce weight is with a billet compressor wheel. I weighed my cast gt28 comp wheel vs my gt28 billet wheel and the billet wheel is 20% lighter. This is on a small turbo. | | |
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07-08-2011, 03:36 PM
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#22 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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You stated inconel was lighter and spools quicker which is not true. Then you changed it to nickel. It's nothing special, there are millions of vehicles with inconel turbine wheels. Mechanical or electronic vgt actuation makes no difference on the rotating assembly weight. The only difference mechanical or electrical will have is on spool time is because the electronics will allow more parameters for feedback for better tuning.
I am not sure what the testing requirements are for gasoline vgt systems like on that 997 but I have seen diesel vgt turbos operate on the test stand at work over 2000F.
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07-08-2011, 08:48 PM
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#23 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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i thought they were goona stop making the M3?
source from bimmerpost!
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07-08-2011, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by xilley still like the e46 look by far.. | +1
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07-08-2011, 09:24 PM
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#25 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by godwin With the advanced of material sciences and the wider availability of inconel. Turbos lasts much longer, most importantly lighter. It makes spool ups much quicker. | ok bill nile the science guy..dam.
on another note...bmw does it again *clap clap clap*
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