Time once was I was opposed to the HST. Looking back, I think it was a miz of a reaction to how it was introduced and my active dislike of the Liberals as led by Campbell. Now, on the other hand, I'm all for it. I read an interesting article awhile ago that said on average, upper-middle income people pay a lower proportional tax rate than lower income people. Why? They have the opportunity to take more writeoffs. I'm not saying consumption taxes will make everything lovey-dovey perfect, but I'd be much happier with a higher consumption tax (15%? A nice round number and still lower than places like Europe) and a greater tax exemption for low-income people (ie: moving the start of income taxes to the poverty line--something like $18-20k).

I'm voting to keep the HST which, if nothing else, will cancel out my mom's vote.
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There are a couple big signs in Kits, yet I am absolutely disgusted by the anti hst signs on million dollar homes for sale in Kits. If you can afford a million dollar home, you can afford to pay your fair share of tax. My income tax should not subsidize people buying million dollar homes and not paying their fair share.

I hate this too. Only businesses selling second hand goods should be subject to tax, cause they are offering a service to resell it. Personal private second hand sales should not be taxed as the tax has already been paid.

Kits was a poor area before the yuppies made it rich.

Consumption taxes worked so well for greece, UK, Ireland, Spain, Portugal.

Socialist programs promoting lazy citizens that feed at the government trough worked so well too :p

Imagine if they didn't have them. They'd be as bad as Sweden and Norway.

yeah, except In greece you work 16 hours a day for 60 euro's a day while the property (especially athens) is owned by foreign investors.

US citizens per citizen are 46k in debt.

Greece per citizen is 44k in debt.

Greece is the testing ground.

Greek people barely work 6 hours a day, and that's part of the problem. A bunch of lazy bottom feeders that expect someone else to work hard and pay for their services.

Where the fuck are you getting your numbers from dude? There is a large number of greeks leaving the country. My cousins (who have dual citizenship) just arrived in canada and are working 2 jobs, 12 hour days. If you honestly think that greek people work 6 hours a day, and are fucking lazy, go there and work and try to find a job.

http://coveringdelta.files.wordpress...king-hours.jpg

CHARTS

http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/21/lab...countries.html

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even if we bring it down, most of the stores have already jacked up their prices on most things and probably wont lower it back down once the hst goes to 10%

It's a lose lose. I think the point is if you wanna make a point that the people are in power, vote yes.

The reports I've heard on the Greek debt crisis have noted similar statements to what Taylor mentioned; retirement at age 55, 40% of the population hold government jobs, 30% of the population work under the table and don't pay taxes. I don't doubt that there is a very hard working segment of the population, but there is also a powerful group of lazy union workers with a feeling of entitlement.
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I wouldn't call the average Greek person lazy by any means. Many work long hours.

It's the politicians that ruined that country with poor policies. How can they pay for anything if they don't even have an efficient system for collecting tax.

From my many Greek friends and their parents, it's basically the tax evasion that screwed the country over. When some doctors and government workers don't pay tax, how can they expect to survive in the long run??

Greek politicians are the real crooks! so many scandels.

No wonder why the KKE Is getting ground in greece over the past 10 years.

Communist Party of Greece - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They have 22 seats int he greek government and 2 seats in the european parliament.

Edit: I am no way a communist or endorsing them.

here a youtube link that my buddy sent me about HST


check it out.

I just don't like my food being taxed :(

Your food still isn't taxed under HST. Only prepared foods and meals are taxed.

if you eat out everyday, hst costs you alot of money for taxes

Here are some cooler videos that your buddy should watch as well

If you eat out every day, you must either have a pretty decent salary or just really lazy.

or busy or single.

Shhhhhh don't tell MajinHurricane this, he won't believe it.

If you eat out everyday, you can afford to pay your fair share of tax. There's no good reason prepared food should have ever been exempt from tax.

for me, who lives on my own and am not home most of the time, eating out makes more sense than going grocery shopping. i have tried going to safeway/costco/whatever spend $100+ on food for most of it to just go bad in my fridge. If I spend $20-$30/day on eating out, that $100 will last me almost a full work week.