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View Poll Results: Are you in favour of extinguishing the HST in BC? | |
Yes: Bring Back GST + PST @ 12%
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No: HST to decrease to 10% over 3 years (10% in 2014)
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08-26-2011, 12:28 PM
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08-26-2011, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane  This tax was unpopular because of how it was introduced. Get fucked liberals. | Personally I have no issues with the Provincial Liberals but I agree that the way it was brought in and introduced angered a lot of people.
However, IMO this was not the correct way to send a message if you did not like the Provincial Liberals, you do that with a general election vote, not to vote down a tax that as a whole benefited BC and the majority of its residents and would be made up in other taxes and service cuts. IMO, a consumer tax was the best way to go.
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08-26-2011, 12:34 PM
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#204 | | MiX iT Up!
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| Question: If the HST was supposed to be revenue neutral (ie: not a tax increase), why are they now reporting there will be a tax revenue gap (shortfall) once we're back to PST + GST? Something doesn't add up
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08-26-2011, 12:38 PM
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#205 | | MiX iT Up!
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Originally Posted by Captain Picard tonight when I'm home, I'm gonna do a little comparison.... average income/educational levels vs voted yes/no | be sure to post results.
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08-26-2011, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 7seven Personally I have no issues with the Provincial Liberals but I agree that the way it was brought in and introduced angered a lot of people.
However, IMO this was not the correct way to send a message if you did not like the Provincial Liberals, you do that with a general election vote, not to vote down a tax that as a whole benefited BC and the majority of its residents and would be made up in other taxes and service cuts. IMO, a consumer tax was the best way to go. | The HST campaigning was the worst part. The used several tactics to try to keep HST and the whole "NO" side was even destroying signs of the yes side and that garnered media attention.
You can never ever make a tax sound good ever. Most british columbians are overtaxed at the pumps, in their daily lives and through their income and just generally don't make enough. I mean I have a "good" job. It's an average 60k a year job. After all is said in done though 20% taxes, rrsp contribution etc, that leaves me with about 35-40k a year. After rent (lets say 13k a year) then food, and entertainment, gas, insurance, etc etc, im left with like 5k a year to save.
lifes brutal in vancouver and I can understand why people are pissed.
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08-26-2011, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane The government made 2 billion or something stupid since the intro of hst. | Right and you think the gov will use it to pay it off? LOL Our gov is like a spoil princess it spend as much as it is given and when it is in debt it applies for Credit Card (Increase Tax, borrow form fed gov). When it needs to pay off any debt it either increase more tax or go bankrupt.
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08-26-2011, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp Right and you think the gov will use it to pay it off? LOL Our gov is like a spoil princess it spend as much as it is given and when it is in debt it applies for Credit Card (Increase Tax, borrow form fed gov). When it needs to pay off any debt it either increase more tax or go bankrupt. | I can't tell what your upset about?
The poor policies of the government or the fact that the HST was a smart thing (apparently?).
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08-26-2011, 12:49 PM
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No more HST, so sad. Was looking forward to not paying sales tax in Seattle.
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08-26-2011, 12:52 PM
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#210 | | I STILL don't get it
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I can't believe it...
I actually had faith that collectively, as a province, we were smart.
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08-26-2011, 12:57 PM
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#211 | | I am grateful grapefruit
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Originally Posted by wstce92 I can't believe it...
I actually had faith that collectively, as a province, we were smart. | If anything, I'd say mob mentality makes everybody more stupid - for example, Riots of 2011 Stanley Cup Finals.
Bill Vander Zalm is no different from Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.
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08-26-2011, 01:03 PM
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#212 | | YOU CANT CUT BACK ON FUNDING! YOU WILL REGRET THIS
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the HST was a good idea, but as majin pointed out... bad introduction...
even worse, they just HAD to do it in the middle of a worldwide economic downturn. That being said though, giving the province a shot at bringing back the old tax has to be the stupidest decision ever
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"None of us is as stupid as all of us."
As far as the revenue neutrality, they acknowledged shortly after it was introduced that it wasn't revenue neutral. That's why they had planned to cut the rate down to 10 over a few years.
Personally I'd rather have a 15% VAT and increase the amount to the lowest (0%) tax bracket to allow more money for essentials for the poor people and getting more out of the rich. Consumption taxes on luxuries are some of the most equitable out there. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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08-26-2011, 01:04 PM
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Kingsway? 
I bet people were not aware hst will be reduce to 10% during vote... Trolled Posted via RS Mobile | |
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08-26-2011, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Picard time to buy some fucking used cars | Not so fast, no-one has announced what will happen now. We might not get the exemptions back.
Used cars were GST exempt, so the PST was raised from 7% to 12% to become the HST. Now that we're back to PST, the PST has to be lowered to 7%, and there's no indication yet that will happen.
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08-26-2011, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Picard the HST was a good idea, but as majin pointed out... bad introduction...
even worse, they just HAD to do it in the middle of a worldwide economic downturn. That being said though, giving the province a shot at bringing back the old tax has to be the stupidest decision ever | The GST was brought in in much worse times. The difference was people were not given a choice, if they were the result would be much the same.
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08-26-2011, 01:13 PM
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The hst was introduced in such a bad way that it became a 'do you hate Gordan Campbell' vote.
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08-26-2011, 01:15 PM
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Anyone have a time for when Clark and Falcon will voice their comments? It is supposed to be today, yet doesn't say when. I'm surprised it wasn't at 11am sharp.
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08-26-2011, 01:17 PM
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Falcon has already made his speech. He is clearly disappointed, said it was a "step backwards".
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08-26-2011, 01:19 PM
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Falcon briefly talked about it during the Global noon news... but I'm sure he'll be discussing it in further detail sometime in the next couple hours..
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08-26-2011, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tiger_handheld Question: If the HST was supposed to be revenue neutral (ie: not a tax increase), why are they now reporting there will be a tax revenue gap (shortfall) once we're back to PST + GST? Something doesn't add up | Because implementation of the new tax cost money. Adminstration is not free, awareness campaigns are not free, information is not free.
Going back to the old tax will have the same costs.
The shifting of tax structure may be revenue neutral in the long run, not in the short run.
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It's not like we have to give back an entire 1.6 billion back to Ottawa. Ottawa gives us money anyways because you know, we do live in Canada too.
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Hahahaha NDP: Quote: |
#ndp MP Libby Davies says her party will "do everything in our power" to pressure Fed. Gov. to forgive BC's $1.6 bil #hst transfer$
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NDP: Don't make B.C. repay $1.6B in HST transition funds.
| NDP: So can we keep the 1.6b? 
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