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Old 07-17-2011, 12:44 AM   #1
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Michelin Pilot Super Sport

Any opinions on these? Anyone tried a set? Interested in the new PSS's to replace my Kumho SPT which are going to be worn out by the end of the summer driving season I think.
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Old 07-17-2011, 12:56 AM   #2
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never used them, but I can vouch for the Hankook Ventus V12 for a great tire. if they fit your size, they're worth looking into!

great value with great handling wet and dry
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had michelin pilots but not super sports - they are amazing tires and VERY quiet
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I've driven the V12 before. Sidewalls are too soft for autocross and ultimate grip is not as high. However I don't want to go and use Star Specs because I still want some treadwear and have a reasonably decent ride/NVH for daily driving. Best way is to run two sets but I don't want to deal with that hassle.

I think I'm set on my tire selection with the Michelin PSS.
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the pss are the best tires in that range,

i had the Pilot Sports and they were fucking awesome, if you can afford them, buy them.
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totally irrelevant: their sport sc tires for my scooter are phenomenal.
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pilot super sports are excellent, grip which surpasses the ps2s, more comfortable ride and their 30 000 mile treadlife guarantee (18 000 for staggered offset) gives some peace of mind. Wet handling is phenomenal and dry handling, I can pretty much mash my throttle to the floor with just a bit of tire squeal and it just hooks up now. Previously I'd have to feather the throttle up until about 40kph to avoid any unecessary tire spin.

Keep in mind the tires are a bit wider than most other brands of equivalent sizes eg. the 265/18/35s on my car are about as wide as 275 width tires from pirelli.

Other +'s they're cheaper than the ps2s, and if you're purchasing them I'd get them shipped from TireRack ($150 duty ) or just drive down to the states and get them from discount tire. All in all they cost me about $1100.

To sum up: Incredible tire, top notch performance and represents all of Michelin's advances in tire technology at an excellent price point.
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my uncle was recently talking about the pilots he put on my aunts M45 2.5 years ago

they drive it a decent amount in the kootneys to calgary and back and he says he's measured the tread wear and it's almost worn down nothing over the 2.5 years hes had them, also says awsome grip in almost all conditions
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I was thinking of running these tires for next summer. I have no complaints with my stock Bridgestone RE050A's, but the Super Sports are supposed to be better in every way, and they're cheaper to boot.

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The super sports look to be a PS2 replacement and they've really hit the mark with pricing. Outperforms PS2 in every category and they're far cheaper too. Another tire I'd look at is the continental DW.
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Contiental DW yo


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performs like ps2 but for half the price



way better than shitty spt and v12


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what he said.

not as much road feel but you're getting around 85-90% of a ps2 at literally half the price
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tirerack ranked Conti DW no.1

than came in second place later on, while PS2 came in first.

BUt basically in terms of grip they are the same


i got my friend to switch to DW on his 350z after he finished the ps2


Ps2 tread wear is like 240

while DW is 340


His only complains is DW sidewall is softer compare to ps2, and a tiny bit less in terms of feed back. However, dry/wet cornering ability is same/identical.


I also noticed the sidewall is slightly softer, but stiffer than SPT/V12, Falken 452 etc

The rain and dry is amazing, i went thru a lot of tires. These are definitely solid summer tires for an awesome price
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Damn, the Continental ExtremeContact DW is currently backordered at Tirerack and Discount tire in the size I want.
Anyone know how often they get new shipments? Or anywhere else I can order them from?
Don't want to order now and only get them when the summer is over. LOL.
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If you've looked at the latest rankings on tirerack PSS placed first with Bridgestones coming in second. I'm not sure why you're talking about the PS2's still when this thread is about the Pilot Super Sports.

Pilot Super sports have dual tread tech and their twaron fiber to keep the tire as squared to the road as possible.

When it comes down to it, Conti's DW have slightly smoother ride comfort, but gets edged out by PSS in handlnig. I've never had a set long enough to wear out a set of Conti DW, but all I can attest to is I prefer the handling characteristics of the PSS. Paired with the mileage guarantee hopefully wil mean massively improved treadlife while still outperforming its predecssor.
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i think 2-3 years ago at one point tirerack ranked them no.1
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If you see the prices for BS, Mich, Pire compare to Conti


Conti has the best price


and for me my car handles well, with coilover and sway bar.

So i could really careless about sidewall since i dont track or auto cross.


My no.1 concern is dry/wet cornering ability, as long as it grabs under all speed, im satisfied. Ride quality is good, quiet and comfy
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also, not many people know this. But Continental has a 1-year warranty on anything that has the Continental brand on it. If within a year and your tire gets nailed to a point that it is not repairable (sidewalls, runflats/SSRs) they will gladly replace it for free thru reimbursement (save those invoices~!).

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3rd 09 june

if you look up the prices, you will appreciate what DW does for you


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If you see the prices for BS, Mich, Pire compare to Conti


Conti has the best price


and for me my car handles well, with coilover and sway bar.

So i could really careless about sidewall since i dont track or auto cross.


My no.1 concern is dry/wet cornering ability, as long as it grabs under all speed, im satisfied. Ride quality is good, quiet and comfy
I do track and autocross, which is why I am asking about the PSS instead of the Conti DW. Yes, the Conti DW does ride better. However, if you check the latest Tire Rack test, it does fall behind either the Bridgestone S-04 or the PSS in ultimate grip.

And if your No.1 concern is "dry/wet cornering" ability you should be considering the PSS - it has higher ultimate grip than the DW and will grab at higher speeds than the DW.

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if you look up the prices, you will appreciate what DW does for you


I don't care about price... I want ultimate performance. I know the Conti DW is a good bargain. Not looking for that.
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than in that case you should get PSS


No way im paying/afford that much on pss


pss vs DW in my size is $100 dollar more per tire

$400 more ugh...
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also, not many people know this. But Continental has a 1-year warranty on anything that has the Continental brand on it. If within a year and your tire gets nailed to a point that it is not repairable (sidewalls, runflats/SSRs) they will gladly replace it for free thru reimbursement (save those invoices~!).

90% of the time.
WTF?! For realz?!?!?! Had I known, I would've bought the Contis over the Dunlop Direzza!
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wats the difference between these two? i was thinkin about getting pirelli p-zero neros again but this thread has made me want to do otherwise

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