Issue with landlords...

[Gt-R R34]

Originally Posted by wstce92

I'm going to get failed, but I don't care.

It is not YOUR suite, it is your LANDLORD'S suite.
Don't like their rules, don't live it in their unit.
How would you like it if you rented something to someone only to have them treat it like shit?
Would you be ok with your friend borrowing your car for the weekend in exchange for a full tank of gas upon return, only to have him return it full of garbage, scratched up all over, and smelling like dog shit?
Each person has a different definition of "treat like shit", but you're renting someone else's property, so you should respect THEIR definition.
And for everyone who's going to say you pay rent, so it's yours; it's not.
You're not the one who's bought the place, you're not the one who's money is at risk.
Regardless of how much money we pay for rent in this city, we are guests to the owners, and we should respect them. If you think your landlord is ridiculous, move, you don't have to live there, it's not a right, its a privilege.

Going to thank and fail you.

For 1 reason: IT CUTS BOTH WAYS. You rent their property and pay them rent. They should also respect your privacy. He's a TENANT, he has rights and privleges. They infringe on that, the OP has the damn right to play the game.

Just cuz the person bought the property doesn't give him to be "god" to the tenant. If i had a landlord, i'd tell my landlord to go fuck themselves. I paid rent, i get my priveleges. You want to see my place, by all means, following the rules.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Originally Posted by wstce92

I'm going to get failed, but I don't care.

It is not YOUR suite, it is your LANDLORD'S suite.
Don't like their rules, don't live it in their unit.
How would you like it if you rented something to someone only to have them treat it like shit?
Would you be ok with your friend borrowing your car for the weekend in exchange for a full tank of gas upon return, only to have him return it full of garbage, scratched up all over, and smelling like dog shit?
Each person has a different definition of "treat like shit", but you're renting someone else's property, so you should respect THEIR definition.
And for everyone who's going to say you pay rent, so it's yours; it's not.
You're not the one who's bought the place, you're not the one who's money is at risk.
Regardless of how much money we pay for rent in this city, we are guests to the owners, and we should respect them. If you think your landlord is ridiculous, move, you don't have to live there, it's not a right, its a privilege.

How would you like if someone comes INTO YOUR HOUSE (Even if you rent it), without any notice and HE COMES when you or any of your family members didn't know. What if you are having sex with your gf when he comes? Or what if you have guest over? That to me is an invasion of privacy. Landlord or not he have no right to come in. Doesn't matter if the place is a mess. The landlord can give warnings, evcit notice if he wants. What the landlord did was illegal.

In terms of the pool, I would leave it, there nothing that saids you can't have a pool unless it is fully written in your contracts which well you are on a month to month so unless he made a new agreement that specific saids no pools and you sign it, he can't make you get rib of it. Since power is included I don't see why can't you use it to max.

[SFUguy]

you're from kelowna. that says it all.

your landlord is probably some hillbilly.

[wstce92]

Originally Posted by Nlkko

You sir, are a fucking retard. Tenants are people, we are not dogs. We pay to live in a rental property, we don't live there for free. Guests my ass. Both parties agree to a certain rules in the rental agreement and abide by it. You can't just rent out to somebody and then a few days later, show up and tell them they need to cut the fucking grass every 4 fucking days.

You say landlords deserve respect. I assume you also imply that the renters don't deserve any? You can't just storm into somebody room and clean it no matter how dirty it is. You are talking out of your ass.

If you are not a fucking dog, don't live in someone's property like a fucking dog.
Just cause you pay to live in someone's building doesn't mean you own it. An agreement SHOULD outline rules, but it should be common decency to not treat someone else's property like shit. And not treating it like shit, to the landlord, might mean a meticulously kept lawn, and if you're not doing that, then I too would demand you to fucking cut the grass every 4 fucking days.

and just to clarify, I strongly feel that no one should enter your rental without previous notice, BUT if your unit is to the point where they feel the need to clean it; you need to go learn to not be a fucking dog.
Your privacy don't mean shit if you're letting the place go to hell.

Would you, personally, stand idly by while some asshole trashes your property as long as they were paying you?

I've worked cleaning buildings, and if you just let shit sit; it eventually gets the point where you can clean for years and it'll still look like shit. Are you going to replace the floors and paint the walls for your landlord when you leave?

I'm saying landlords deserve respect because they clearly don't get any.
How to fuck do people find it ok to do whatever the fuck they want to someone else's property.

And like I said before, you personally might not think you're living in filth and treating the property like shit, but you are living on THEIR property, so you should upkeep according to THEIR standards.

Don't like it? Move.

You pay to LIVE in the unit. Not to do whatever the fuck you want. At the end of the day, it's still your landlord's property, and they have a say as to how their property should be kept and look. If they think your above ground pool, trailer, and rims make their property look like shit; and thus want it gone, you should oblige.
If you want to do whatever the fuck you want, get your own place, or rent from a landlord who is cool with it.

I don't know the OP, and I'm not saying they're a douche. But if this asshole landlord truly has unpleasable standards, then every subsequent renter after him will get evicted too. That does the landlord no good, having to find a new renter every few months; those months in between renters without rent will add up.

Oh, and also, of course you're a fucking guest. Get the fuck over yourself; your fucking rent, hell, your fucking rent combined with all the other renters rent if there are any, will cover their mortgage AT BEST. Before accounting for misc. and associated costs if any.

If you treat someone with respect, I highly doubt they'll treat you like shit.
Obviously there are landlords who will treat people like shit regardless, but that's few and far between. I've had no problems with any landlords I've had, save for one, who tried to get rid of me as the rent I was paying was far below the going rate in that neighborhood; but I didn't blame him, who the fuck doesn't want to get paid what they're worth.

[SpuGen]

Originally Posted by Graeme S

Illegal tenants are still protected by the RTA, just so everyone knows. The RTA was set up to protect tenants and landlords provincewide, not to enforce municipal laws.

Haaah.
The RTA fucks over landlords 99% of the time.

[cheapskate]

I've been in the rental business and according to the OP's posts I would want to kick him out too. He sounds like the type who brings a whole bunch of junk with him (ugly cars, trailers, pool, tools, wheels LOL). Crap like that totally makes a home look like some ghetto Surrey shack. And also judging by his posts, he doesn't seem like an easy person to deal with (getting all angry even online? LOL).

The landlord was totally in the wrong going into his suite though I think the demand to mow the lawn every 4 days is just a ploy to kick him out lol.

A reasonable person would just leave ASAP, instead this guy goes about doing a bunch of stupid shit (wasting electricity, etc.) like some 13 year old punk. There's definitely a lot we don't know here.

[Gridlock]

1. cheapskate: honestly, I'm leaning towards your assessment. To the OP, this is nothing personal.

Here's the deal: I got flamed hard on an apartment design blog for sharing this perspective, but its so true. I try to find tenants that aren't going to cause me more work than necessary. In fact, I use the term "wingy". I want people that have jobs, come home, park their car, make normal food that doesn't stink in the hall, clean up after themselves, watch a little tv at a normal volume, and go to bed. Most important, I want people that shut the fuck up and leave me alone!

Boring life right? You got it. Why? Their neighbors don't know they exist, they pay their rent with post dated checks and I say hi in the halls. That's it. I don't need to hear people's stories about why they can't pay rent. Their neighbors aren't kept up at odd hours. Yada Yada yada.

So where did you go wrong? Don't worry, its not all your fault.

Well, you raised your profile on the landlord radar. You have a goddamned 5th wheel in the drive and a goddamned pool in the backyard! Let me make this really clear: YOU DON'T OWN YOUR HOME.

I wouldn't want that shit near my building, and I certainly wouldn't want it at my house, whether I live there or not.

So here is the question: Did you tell these people before your move of what you were planning to do? No? I didn't think so. They came home one day and saw a big trailer in the drive. Surprise! I get pissed if there is a cat I didn't know about.

So that started your problem.

But its not all your fault.

There is some mis-information in this thread. Yes, they can ask you to move on a month to month lease. But not for free.

You get 2 month's notice and 1 of those months is free rent.

I suspect that the showings are to sell the house, and usually, the buyer will not want to inherit tenants, meaning its up to the seller to cough up the 1200 for you. I think that's why he cleaned your house.

Way cheaper to kick you out.

So: The fight.

The entire act is written in terms of "unreasonable" and so on. There is not one line of the thing that is written "do these specific things and get kicked out" so that ambiguity works on both sides.

The landlord needs to provide you with written documentation of anything wrong so that you can address the situation.

"You have 7 days to remove the violating pool from the backyard, as this use is an UNREASONABLE use of backyard privledges" The landlord then shows increased utilities and pictures and you are out.

I can't see the branch signing the order to evict based on parking the trailer in the driveway.

He again, needs to provide you with written notice about mowing the lawn.

" You have 14 days to comply with the material terms of your lease that states you would mow the lawn every 4 days(6, 12 whatever) during summer months."

He would then need to show that letter that you received the notice, and a copy of your lease that says you would mow every 4 days. If the lease doesn't say every 4 days, then no case. He just can't come up with an arbitrary number now, because he doesn't like you.

If the lease says, "as needed" then its up to him to prove you aren't doing it "as needed" and you to document that it is done "as needed".

See how the game works?

He makes a statement, that statement needs to be allowed under the tenancy act to apply, he needs to prove said statement is not being followed, that you were provided a reasonable chance to correct the issue and by not being followed it is causing "unreasonable" duress to the tenancy. To close the case up nice and tight, he needs show that the only "reasonable" way to make things right is for you to leave.

[Gridlock]

Originally Posted by SpuGen

Haaah.
The RTA fucks over landlords 99% of the time.

I wouldn't say it fucks over landlords. It definitely protects tenants. But I think it should.

You have personality conflicts with people all the time. I don't think you should lose your home for it.

There is a person in our building that does nothing but try to make our lives miserable. She calls the owners and complains. They've told her to stop. She came to my door once and complained that she stepped in dog shit on the boulevard. I told her the hose is out back and she should look down when she walks. Then I slammed the door in her face.

We have not spoken since, and we give each other an awkward silent treatment in the halls.

Do I think she deserves to lose her home for it? No. If she slips up on something I can use, I'm gonna take her out. But that's the hurdle I have to jump, and she needs to give me an avenue I can use. I hope every single month that the check gets forgotten.

Sometimes you need to accept that it takes all kinds. I ignore her, and she ignores me. In my books, the problem kind of solved itself there. I'm sure she has nothing but pleasant things to say about me.

The point is, if we could just get rid of people on a whim, I'd take over a building and one by one bounce everyone out and put in people that I like, and get along with. And that would happen over and over again. You'd never be able to unpack.

We had a crackhead living in another building and they worked with us. In fact, we did more damage to our case than he did, because we kept trying to work with him to get him out. Once we finally went to arbitration, he was done. If we had been hard ass from day one, we could have had him out way faster.

I haven't had a time where I could honestly say, "we were screwed on this deal with the branch"

But then, if you look at what i wrote above, we take the approach of documenting everything and assaulting the arbitration with facts, not feelings.

[Death2Theft]

Personally i'd just video him trying to come into the place uninvited. Call the cops in to get him out right away. Have it on film and take it to tenancy court.
If you really want to be a dick.....

First thing you gotta ask yourself is living here worth the hassle?
To be mildly annoying you can be late with rent twice before he can try to evict you on that. Even then when it comes to ultimate removal the cops can't do it. They have to spend 1k+ on hiring bailifs to do it and the more crap you leave behind the more they will get charged.
Start making videos of whenever he comes over and what he does. That will get him to be alot less "nazi" real quick. Dont argue or say anything just date time and how you think the landlord is violating your rights. Of course being late with rent will probally make him even more irritated so you really want him on camera.

If you have already found a place and move all your valuables there you can really fuck with him. Dont give him any notice that your leaving stop paying rent.
Drive down to the worst part of town and just invite people over for a party and tell them it's cool they can crash there. Pack the place full of hobos tell them they can store stuff there.
You can do alot more damage to him than the damage deposit will cover.
Put cat litter/concrete down all the drains. Make holes in the walls, pull out piping, throw fish guts/juice in the vents and insulation.
Kick in the door and leave. If they try to pursue you.... just say you left x days ago and had no idea all that stuff went down. Let them keep the damage deposit alot of good that will do.

There is so much shit tenants can do to fuck with landlords it's not even funny the rules are written clearly in favor of the tenants.

[girlcrazy_420]

Well, we've decided to start looking for a new place. I've rented TONS of houses, bsm suits etc... My girlfriend rented this place and it is her second place ever and she's completely whipped by this guy. She's always like "shhhh be quiet" or "you need to listen to him" and meanwhile i'm like "fuck him, he's a douch"... haha

But for 1200mo, I can sure as hell find a new place. Thx for the input guys ^^

[girlcrazy_420]

Gridlock: How do I go about getting this "free" month? Its not written anywhere on the tenancy act. I have a feeling this skumbag wont give back out damage deposit, so I was just not going to pay rent for the last month.

[Gridlock]

It's called Landlord's use of property.

The acceptable reasons are:

They want to do reno's that require an empty unit
They want a family member to move in
Purchaser intends to use the property-basically they have become the landlord and intend for a family member to move in.

There is nothing in the act that says "I want the guy gone, and am willing to pay him"

Most people will either: harass you to move, evict you on cause, or buy you out. Just because it isn't in the act, doesn't mean you can"t do it, it just means both parties need to agree.

BUT: what the fuck is this shit:" i'm like "fuck him, he's a douch"... haha"?

Seriously...how many of your problems right now with this guy are your own doing?

By all means, feel free to not pay your last month's rent. If he knows what he's doing, he gives you an RTB-10 which I call the pay to stay notice. You have 5 days to pay, or 10 days to move out. He can give you that any time after 12:01 am on the 2nd. If he posts it to your door, you technically get 3 extra days to receive it.

Oh, and to anyone who suggests trashing the place, you can go for more money than the damage deposit. Collection becomes another matter, but do you want this following you for 10 years?

[Nlkko]

Edit: resolved so doesn't really matter anymore.

[Anjew]

as people have said tell them to fuck off or Just fucking leave.... good tenants are hard to come by. See how they feel when some kid moves in and plays the fucking drums all day. if they evict again thats another months rent possibly down the drain from cleanup and a replacement tenant.

i'm so grateful to have good tenants for the last 5 years because the previous 2years was nothing but headache after headache.




isnt it against the law if the owners do not provide ample warning before they enter your suite? i always give at least a week...

[ptrinh]

move to vancouver. Problem solved.

[girlcrazy_420]

Figured I'd post this up anyways. He gave us till today (monday 12 noon) to resolve the condition of the property. He gave us an eviction notice for "failure to comply to a clean usable property" Here are the pics I took just after he left. This is every angle of the yard... If this is what you call "unclean" than I dont know what to say, but this does not look worthy of eviction.




My tires and trailer...




West corner of property

Stairs to out suit

[Great68]

Originally Posted by girlcrazy_420

Figured I'd post this up anyways. He gave us till today (monday 12 noon) to resolve the condition of the property. He gave us an eviction notice for "failure to comply to a clean usable property" Here are the pics I took just after he left. This is every angle of the yard... If this is what you call "unclean" than I dont know what to say, but this does not look worthy of eviction.




My tires and trailer...




West corner of property

Stairs to out suit

Yep, your Landlord's a douche.

I have no idea how he could get you to agree to be responsible for yard maintenance if you don't get sole usage of the yard.

[FRStan]

Sounds like the landlord just finding every excuse possible to kick you out. Your yard looks fine...

[SumAznGuy]

Based on these pics, I'd take the landlords to the tenancy board.
The tires might be a bit of an eyesore, but nothing else there seems too bad.
Cutting the grass once every 4 days does seem a bit harsh. You mentioned that the upstairs is also rented out. Is the landlord as hard on them as they are on you and your GF?

The pool looks like it is sitting on the grass. I thought you mentioned it was sitting on a concrete surface.

[murd0c]

get rid of the tires they are bald and theres no point of even taking a tire groover to them. I would tell your landlord to fuck off he has no rights and is just pushing you around cause you are letting him. He just can't kick you out end of month he has to give you 3 months notice as wel

[Great68]

Originally Posted by Gridlock

Well, you raised your profile on the landlord radar. You have a goddamned 5th wheel in the drive and a goddamned pool in the backyard! Let me make this really clear: YOU DON'T OWN YOUR HOME.

I wouldn't want that shit near my building, and I certainly wouldn't want it at my house, whether I live there or not.

While the pool is probably in contradiction of whatever "Back yard use" rules his rental agreement might have, I don't see how the 5th wheel should pose a problem.

It's registered, and in the OP's assigned parking spot (Which I'm assuming was allocated per the rental agreement).

Unless the rental agreement states that only a "Car" may park there, It's TOO FUCKING BAD if the landlord thinks it's ugly and doesn't like it there.

[Phil@rise]

Originally Posted by wstce92

I'm going to get failed, but I don't care.

It is not YOUR suite, it is your LANDLORD'S suite.
Don't like their rules, don't live it in their unit.
How would you like it if you rented something to someone only to have them treat it like shit?
Would you be ok with your friend borrowing your car for the weekend in exchange for a full tank of gas upon return, only to have him return it full of garbage, scratched up all over, and smelling like dog shit?
Each person has a different definition of "treat like shit", but you're renting someone else's property, so you should respect THEIR definition.
And for everyone who's going to say you pay rent, so it's yours; it's not.
You're not the one who's bought the place, you're not the one who's money is at risk.
Regardless of how much money we pay for rent in this city, we are guests to the owners, and we should respect them. If you think your landlord is ridiculous, move, you don't have to live there, it's not a right, its a privilege.

You are delusional.
As a tenant YOU are lining the pockets of your landlord their "investment" is increasing their net worth. They are providing a service you are paying for it. As long as you are paying for said services and are living within the parameters of local laws and guidelines the landlord has no right to lessen your quality of services promised by them by providing you with a "home" a home is intended to be a safe comfortable place to live. Borrowing a car is a completely irrelevant retarded comparison.

[Great68]

Originally Posted by Phil@rise

You are delusional.
As a tenant YOU are lining the pockets of your landlord their "investment" is increasing their net worth. They are providing a service you are paying for it. As long as you are paying for said services and are living within the parameters of local laws and guidelines the landlord has no right to lessen your quality of services promised by them by providing you with a "home" a home is intended to be a safe comfortable place to live. Borrowing a car is a completely irrelevant retarded comparison.

THANK YOU.

wstce92 should get off his high horse way of thinking that landlords are so graciously allowing a tenant to live in their house as if the tenant should be grovelling at the landlord's feet.

Tentants are CUSTOMERS.

[Eff-1]

Originally Posted by girlcrazy_420

Not sure where to post...

Our landlords are.... hard to deal with.

Today while we where out our landlord called us and told us our rental suit has too much furniture and that our floors where dirty so they swept and mopped and tidied up our living room.

Ok, pardom me... WHY THE FUCK WHERE THEY IN, LET ALONE CLEANING MY HOUSE.

Secondly: I've got a 1990 5th wheel on OUR side of the driveway and they said they are going to issue us an eviction notice if it is not removed by monday as this is the 3rd time of them telling us this. Do I legally need to remove my trailer? its a 19ft... insured and CLEAN in OUR SPOT... This is my main issue. Must it be removed? I'm paying for the fucking parking spot.

I've got a set of summer and winter tires in our shed, they MUST BE REMOVED FROM PREMISES. (says the evic letter)... Once again, I dont understand why I am not allowed to keep my seasonal tires in the shed.

And finally, our pool must be taken down by monday. The renters upstairs helped set it up, they use it... they like it. It is brand new on a cement pad out in the yard. It has a cover, its nice... its new. Are they even allowed to tell us what we are, and not allowed to have in our yard??

And, they DEMAND the yard be cut every 4 days. They stop by on the 4th day and literally yell at us. Its bullshit. We're paying $1200 for a basment suit for the record.

There are a couple major points you've suspiciously failed to include in your story.

Did you ever mention to the landlord the trailer and/or the pool BEFORE you parked/installed them?

I know if I had a tenant who didn't mention to me he wanted to park a 20ft trailer in the driveway before signing the lease, sure i'd be livid. Likewise if the same tenant decides to install a pool without checking with me first and it impacts my hydro bill.

While neither of those two things can justify an eviction, I can understand the landlord's frustration with you.

Some landlords don't give a shit as long as the cheque doesn't bounce. But many do. You may want to keep that in mind as you search for a new place.

It comes down to simple respect for each other. If a conversation had taken place ahead of time, I can't help but think all of this could have been avoided.

[Eff-1]

Originally Posted by Great68

THANK YOU.

wstce92 should get off his high horse way of thinking that landlords are so graciously allowing a tenant to live in their house as if the tenant should be grovelling at the landlord's feet.

Tentants are CUSTOMERS.

Not really. You're renting a place to someone. You're not selling magazine subscriptions. It's apples to oranges.

The lawn cutting issue is clearly unreasonable and entering the suite is clearly the landlord's fault.

But at the same time, the tenant can't do whatever the hell they want without any respect for the landlord simply because he/she is paying rent. That is also unreasonable.

Take painting the walls, for example. A renter can't paint the walls and change the drapes without getting permission first. If you do, the landlord can force you to change it back.

In this case, while the landlord can't evict due to the trailer, it still shows lack of respect for the landlord. Both parties here are to blame for this situation.