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For real: inFact with Brian Dunning, for the people who are interested in REALITY in an era where we are bombarded with bullshit from every angle imaginable. Whether its marketers, idiot government, or just stupid people who believe in fantasy.
If you liked Penn & Teller: BULLSHIT, you'll like these short videos.
A lot of it is obvious stuff that I argue about all the time anyway, but they are perfect for posting to people on facebook or twitter
i dont know, but i beg to differ.
fat doesnt always mean "not healthy" (one example being sumo wrestlers). he doesnt touch on how mcdonalds is all processed foods... not to mention the sodium content!
i dont know, but i beg to differ.
fat doesnt always mean "not healthy" (one example being sumo wrestlers). he doesnt touch on how mcdonalds is all processed foods... not to mention the sodium content!
A lot of the best foods are high in fat. Coconut milk is almost all fat, almost all saturated, and it is one of the best things you can put in your body.
The argument is that people villify mcdonalds and other fast food chains, then go to what they think are "healthy" restaurants. Only they end up eating just as bad ingredients, only more of it!
The point is, you can eat at mcdonalds and get food that is no better or worse than any other place, if you use your brain and avoid things like fries, shakes, sugary drinks, and things like that.
Choose foods that contain mostly beef, which is NOT "processed" with some condiments and a bun, and you are eating probably better than you do on a day to day basis
I think he makes some valid points in all his videos. However, he is always presenting only one set of facts that validate his point. I get the sense he is biased when he presents these videos.
For example, the fast food one. His point is to say don't think fast food are the only culprits in making people fat. Then he claims McD's Big Mac is healthy at ~500 calories (you can eat 3 a day he says) and then slams Starbucks for selling 600-700 calorie drinks.
If you're going to slam all restaurants for selling unhealthy food with high calories, don't present it like McD's is good while Starbucks is evil. They're all equally bad.
^^^ i dont think youre understanding what he is trying to say.
a mig mac is an actual solid food, you can eat 3 big macs a day and wash it down with a nice water(instead of pop) and probably survive for a large part of your life(and be relatively healthy),
whereas, you get a starbucks drink, youre still gonna need food...you cant survive on a mocha latte for the rest of your life.
plus, you should never drink your calories anwyays.
ps- stay away from transfats and sugary drinks at ur fastfood joints and ur all good
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Seriously though, these videos present some interesting info. I wonder though, are the 3 and a half minutes on the various topics sufficient enough to provide strong enough arguments? Simplicity is definitely a very powerful key with these vids (helping them prove a point, no bullshit attached). I just cant help but be skeptical and wonder if they mention all the essential facts or is there really a bias.
The point of the videos is not to teach everything about a subject. It is just to get people to think critically, instead of just following "what everyone knows".
Here's an example of the "everyone knows" syndrome that I thought of, in this very thread.
"Everyone Knows" that McDonalds is bad for you (fries and drinks notwithstanding), because they use a lot of "processed" food.
Right?
What if we think critically?
Let's say instead of having an evil Double Quarter Pounder with all its processed evilness, you make a home made burger at home. Healthy! Right?
Compare the ingredients:
Beef - both use 100% beef
Buns - same - both are equally horrible for you
Ketchup - same stuff
Onions - same
Cheese - assuming you are not using freshly made cheese from a dairy, and are not using cheddar or other "american" modern processed cheeses, this will be the same as well. Process cheese is just cheese with things added, like emulsifiers and salt (and colour).
Taking a look at the ingredients used in evil McDonalds process cheese (it even has processed in the name, help us god)
I put in bold all the ingredients that are probably not good for you (not to say they are bad for you, you'll have to find out for yourself). Note that about 98% of the ingredients are the first 3 items listed.
OK so after thinking critically, do you think the evil Double Quarter Pounder is so bad for you, compared to the home-made alternative? The cheese isn't exactly the healthiest stuff in the world, but you are talking about 2% of the ingredients that are bad, in a component that makes up about 0.5% of the total of the burger itself.
^ while it's pretty obvious you love this guy, he's not all that.
-He thinks saturated fat is bad for you.
-He said "The big mac is a balanced meal. You could drink water with a big mac, eat it 3x a day, everyday and you'll be healthy." (Or something to that effect.)
Let's see.
Nutrition Facts and Analysis for McDonald's sandwich: Big Mac®
Conclusion: I like his message (thinking critically), but it's ironic he's just dictating his own set of 'facts' and telling you to believe them. (which seem to be mostly true), but in the end, he's just another self-proclaimed narcissist know-it-all. I'm happy he can google. Now, here's hoping the rest of the world will learn that skill.
Yes, he is not right 100% of the time. Not many people are. I tweeted him about the saturated fat comment, in fact, as soon as I watched that video.
But if you were going to use that to discredit his videos, you are actually a perfect shining example of what he talks about in his latest series on logical fallacies (the excluded middle, for instance)
I haven't looked myself, due to not having to care, but I'm pretty sure that unlike the anti-fat hysteria, there actually is truth to the science linking cancer with smoking.
Although the "societies" that are put together to market against smoking are very similar to the heart disease and diabetes ones that spread pure bullshit, so it's worth looking into IMO
For real: inFact with Brian Dunning, for the people who are interested in REALITY in an era where we are bombarded with bullshit from every angle imaginable. Whether its marketers, idiot government, or just stupid people who believe in fantasy.
If you liked Penn & Teller: BULLSHIT, you'll like these short videos.
A lot of it is obvious stuff that I argue about all the time anyway, but they are perfect for posting to people on facebook or twitter
So he is basically saying that strains of seeds (genetically modified) are better for you than natural seeds. he should also say that margarine is better than butter , since margarine is man made modified food to replicate and mimic butter. Any one with an average IQ can come to the conclusion that anything grown in their natural environment, is better for you than genetically modified overgrown, under ripened foods with wax and pestocides all over it. Just because studies have shown it to be "ok" for you in the "short term", doesn't mean it is actually good for you. The FDA is a joke. Conversely, I don't trust anything that has an FDA approved organiz label on it, because you never know if it is truly organic or not.
His argument of "don't get fooeld by marketting" is a valid point though. Because you never really know what some companies who claim their stuff is organic does behind closed doors, you may be paying 3x more for the same shit... The only true organic is if you grow the shit yourself... So if this video is implying not to trust major companies, I would agree. That is why the next best thing you can do is buy local fresh produce.. where you know they are picked at the peak of their season....
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