That's the point: The police charged every single driver in the group with the same penalties before having all the facts. They should only have targeted the drivers they had legitimate evidence or complaints about.

None of the cops in this forum are willing to admit that this is the case.

Keep in mind, the details of the cases haven't be revealed and therefore we don't know for a fact that the impoundments were based on civilian witness testimony (correct me if I'm wrong).

It seems entirely possible that when the cars were intercepted by police, officers witnessed reckless driving and based the impoundments on the actions they had personally viewed. If the civilian witness reports are correct and they were driving recklessly, it stands to reason that they would continue to drive that way until reaching their destination which they had not when pulled over.

In actuality I support your position Marco, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

And what makes this different than the MANY times we're driving on the highways in the lower mainland only to find some goof in a gold Corolla going 80 in the left lane, with km's of open highway ahead of him?

Thank you.

Thats how charges work, bud they suspect you, they charge you, they gather the needed evidence. If there is none the charges are dropped if there is enough to support said charges then they proceed with them.

^

therefore those that are accused, sure wastes a hell of a time and inconvenience. Ticket, car getting impounded, grabbing a cab home, last but not least the harrasment and embarrassment they have to go thru :okay:

and as they leave the impound lot they'll give everyone a little bit of this:

http://nsxprime.com/forum/attachment...5&d=1315072614

:troll:

^ haha, i can so see them doing that

why do we keep referring them as kids?, they look like over 20yrs of age. Not a kid anymore. They are rich adults

legally they may be adults...but i think ppl here consider them/their actions that of kids???

just sayin'

They are not rich adults. They are adults with rich parents.

Rich or not, judging from recent events, most of them still have the common sense and mentality of a kid.

They get them back today? Hmm, I just saw a red lambo on a flatbed courtesy of the speed trap downhill on Boundary at Marine. Tough times for exotics.

Oh, and watch out for that speed trap.

Saw that lambo get pulled in on the way home from work.
Exact same thing happened to a white R8 2 weeks ago.

Pretty bad time to be owning an exotic eh?
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And you're privy to this inside information on what evidence they did or didn't have at the time, is that it?

You wanna unload on her and 13 of your buddies?

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...4577388561.jpg

Call it being logical. A couple of people maybe, but there is certainly no way there is enough evidence that all 13 people were driving in a manner that justifies a charge of "careless driving," which is a serious charge involving 6 penalty points. Careless driving would be even more difficult to prove considering there was no accident. I'm almost certain that the charges would be dropped if they were disputed.

Well Phil, that's actually NOT how the law works...You don't charge someone with something AND then work to gather the evidence hoping that it sticks. I hope you realize how much the Canadian Legal system costs us and the government every year and the fact that Crown would even think about charging people without having what they believed to be sufficient evidence to make these charges stick would be hurting not only them but their entire system of law.

In our legal world, we use a term called "Probable Cause" and its is necessary for an arrest or charges to be laid. Unless of course the Peace Officer personally witnesses the crime being committed, in which case, that would serve as his/her probable cause, they would not be able to press charges otherwise. Probable cause must come from specific facts and circumstances, rather than simply from the officer's hunch or suspicion.

The ONLY time probable cause is not needed is when "reasonable suspicion" comes into play. That wouldn't be related to arrest or criminal charges though, but it may lead to that. Reasonable suspicion can be used when an officer reasonably believes a crime is being committed and an investigation is needed...Hence, a road stop stopping a driver of a vehicle and their occupants. From there, evidence would be gathered and a charge or arrest would be made...

Then again, this is all related to criminal/indictable offenses which isn't even the case here, so it's all irrelevant. It's between the Superintendent of ICBC and their client, the driver(s). ICBC wouldn't file any charges unless they had reasonable evidence.

Someone arrested or charged without probable cause may seek redress through a civil lawsuit for false arrest or malicious prosecution.

P.S. - This isn't something that is up for argument. It's the Law and it is what it is. Any other discussion for this or against this would simply be a matter of opinion which is irrelevant when it comes to the Law. There isn't any room for "interpretation" here and certainly no room for speculation.

Actually it is how our legal system is implemented. Your right its not supposed to be but it is. From drug busts to road rage and street racing.
So its no surprise thats how it was carried out here but my point was if there is no evidence the charges will be dropped and the cars will be returned.

Well, I saw a Ferrari on Boundary Road before Marine Way in the spot where cops set up speed traps. They cops had a flatbed there so I'm wondering if he was getting impounded for excessive speed down the hill.

Not so fast......

Convoy of racing luxury cars could be forfeited, say police

The 13 cars, which included Maseratis, Lamborghinis and Mercedes, were impounded by police


Convoy of racing luxury cars could be forfeited, say police

That story is over a week old.

no it's not -- it's on the front page of the vancouver sun website and was posted 2 hours ago

the original story was two weeks ago

but IF YOU READ the article it says the case is now going to the BC Civil Forfeiture Office for review -- as the drivers basically got off with a slap on the wrist and the public wants blood

the police should just fucking leave it alone.
its kinda getting old now.

the public wants blood because they are MAD JELLY.

a friend was CLOCKED by radar doing 255km/h on highway 1 in his Alphine B7. Lost his license for for a short while and got impounded. Besides that he was back on the road not long after.

Cops are going too far with this without an evidence. Pigs.
If the drivers went to jail for 25 years I could careless, just the fact of being jelly on people.