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Old 09-07-2011, 11:06 AM   #26
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Must have been one of those piece of shit Russian airplanes.

Edit: Yep, a Yak-42. All of them confirmed dead. How the hell can they keep these crappy planes still flying. Geez.
you're an idiot. it was a business jet. 20+ years in service. they are used worldwide by different private charter companies.
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you're an idiot. it was a business jet. 20+ years in service. they are used worldwide by different private charter companies.
To be fair, the plane that crashed today and its airline was banned from flying in the European Union over safety standards concerns.


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The charter plane carrying almost the entire Lokomotiv Yaroslavl team took off in perfect weather this morning, had trouble gaining altitude, clipped a radar tower and crashed 1.5 miles from the airport. It's the exact same plane that had been banned two years ago by aviation authorities from flying to Europe because it did not meet any of the international standards for safety.

The Yakovlev Yak-42 was developed in the late 70s, the first Soviet aircraft to use modern turbofan engines. This specific jet, tail number RA-42433, first flew in 1993 and saw heavy service as a commercial airliner.

In 2009, the European Commission published a report on foreign carriers that did not meet standards. Included was RA-42433, previously operated by Tatarstan airlines.

On the basis of verified evidence of major safety deficiencies affecting flight operations detected on the part of the air carrier YAK Service certified by the competent authorities of the Russian Federation, the Commission launched a formal investigation of that air carrier on 15 July 2009...These aircraft were not equipped to perform international flights as per ICAO standards (not equipped with TAWS/E-GPWS) and their certificate of airworthiness had expired and had not been renewed.

The Russian Federation initially promised they would bring the aircraft up to date, but later decided against it. All planes owned by charter company YAK Service have been prohibited from flying to countries within the European community, which does not include Belarus, today's destination.

Preliminary legislation is currently making its way through labyrinthine Russian law that would bring the country's aviation standards up to the rest of the world's, in a "gradual reform." Currently Russia and the former Soviet States have the world's worst air safety record, with 13 times more incidents than the international average.
Doomed Lokomotiv Yaroslavl Plane Was Banned In Europe Due To Safety Concerns


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Revelations of safety concerns with the the Yak-42 plane carrying the Lokomotiv hockey club that crashed Wednesday are raising some serious questions for Russian authorities and the KHL. According to some investigative work from Barry Petchesky at Deadspin, and Slava Malamud of Sport-Express, the plane was banned from flying to Europe two years ago for failing to meet international safety standards.

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In 2009, the European Commission published a report on foreign carriers that did not meet standards. Included was RA-42433, previously operated by Tatarstan airlines.

“On the basis of verified evidence of major safety deficiencies affecting flight operations detected on the part of the air carrier YAK Service certified by the competent authorities of the Russian Federation, the Commission launched a formal investigation of that air carrier on 15 July 2009…These aircraft were not equipped to perform international flights as per ICAO standards (not equipped with TAWS/E-GPWS) and their certificate of airworthiness had expired and had not been renewed.”

The Russian Federation initially promised they would bring the aircraft up to date, but later decided against it. All planes owned by charter company YAK Service have been prohibited from flying to countries within the European community, which does not include Belarus, today’s destination.

HOTH contributor and Good Point hockey editor John Matisz spoke with ex-NHLer Claude Lemieux on Wednesday morning, and the four-time Stanley Cup champion noted concerns from friends playing in Russia with regards to travel conditions in the KHL:

“I played against some these guys and got to know Brad McCrimmon a little bit throughout the years. It’s just devastating. [...] I have heard from players who have been playing in Russia in the last few years & they think the travel was difficult, the airplanes they were using were quite scary. It’s just really unfortunate.”

While we await a formal investigation into what caused Wednesday’s tragic crash, the pre-existing safety issues and comments from Lemieux certainly bring some weighty concerns to the forefront.
More to come as news is available…
Previous safety concerns raise serious questions on Russian flight | Houses of the Hockey | Blogs | theScore.com
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Anything equipment can be a huge hazard if it is not properly maintained.
But oddly enough it seems to happen more in Russia than in North America...

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Russia is a fucking joke, hands down.
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