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Old 03-17-2025, 10:52 AM   #25451
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LOL, I thought La Paz was like an hour from Palm Springs... It's in BOLIVIA... haha yeah that's not happening for us. We have two young boys under four.

Is Bolivia even safe? I'm pretty ignorant of S. America
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i spent some time in la paz (mexico). excellent place. very safe, good food, nice beaches, water activities, etc... lots of stuff for kids there
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lol, I'm the type of guy that would probably choose La Paz Bolivia. Most people just say "Cabo" or "Baja" when referring to Mexico La Paz don't they?

I've been to Peru already but Bolivia has the Salt Flats and is probably the least "Spanish" type of country in Latin America. Looks fascinating. Only minuses is the on-off again civil unrest and all the flights you need to take.


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Seems like most of the detainees issues were from crossing a land border. If you have to go to the US just fly from YVR, you'll be pre-cleared at the Airport so they can't really detain you and send you off to an ICE prison from Richmond. Right?? Right??
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is it even considered safe to take kids to la paz bolivia due to it being 3650masl?
personally i start feeling winded even when im at about 2000masl, and above 3000masl im tired every time i go up a flight of stairs. anything closer to 4000masl and i have a hard time even sleeping properly due to the air being thin.
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TIL there's a Mexican La Paz. I only knew of the one in Bolivia.

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Just make sure you don't say the word work at customs. Always says it's a business trip. They get twitchy if they hear the word work or thing you may be trying to work illegally down there, so if you're going for a vacation make sure you're not bringing anything that might make them think you'll be working.
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is it even considered safe to take kids to la paz bolivia due to it being 3650masl?
personally i start feeling winded even when im at about 2000masl, and above 3000masl im tired every time i go up a flight of stairs. anything closer to 4000masl and i have a hard time even sleeping properly due to the air being thin.
Cusco at 3400 MASL took me out for a few days.
You'd want to spend a couple days getting acclimated
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Just make sure you don't say the word work at customs. Always says it's a business trip. They get twitchy if they hear the word work or thing you may be trying to work illegally down there, so if you're going for a vacation make sure you're not bringing anything that might make them think you'll be working.
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I had a meeting at the office and was in business casual but took the rest of the afternoon off, went to YVR for a flight without changing into casual clothes, got pulled in to secondary and nearly missed my flight. They thought I was going for work despite me telling them I was there to visit my cousins.
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is it even considered safe to take kids to la paz bolivia due to it being 3650masl?
personally i start feeling winded even when im at about 2000masl, and above 3000masl im tired every time i go up a flight of stairs. anything closer to 4000masl and i have a hard time even sleeping properly due to the air being thin.
Pretty sure kids live in La Paz.

If anything Altitude sickness affects older people worse. And with anything else it just takes acclimatization, taking it easy, drinking lots of water, etc.

But no I'd say unless your kids are older and adventurous I'd probably head to the one in Mexico first.
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eh its one thing to live there your whole life and another thing to be there for a week and barely acclimatize by the time your trip is almost over
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no one's flying to Bolivia for a week's vacation and it doesn't take a week to get acclimatized.
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is it even considered safe to take kids to la paz bolivia due to it being 3650masl?
personally i start feeling winded even when im at about 2000masl, and above 3000masl im tired every time i go up a flight of stairs. anything closer to 4000masl and i have a hard time even sleeping properly due to the air being thin.
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I had a meeting at the office and was in business casual but took the rest of the afternoon off, went to YVR for a flight without changing into casual clothes, got pulled in to secondary and nearly missed my flight. They thought I was going for work despite me telling them I was there to visit my cousins.
I got pulled into that secondary room at YVR when I went down for some training before I got my work visa. In the end it was fine but a bit stressy when you have to make a connection and have no clue how long it'll be.

Even with the visa I had to be careful with my wording and they'd get a bit grumpy because they didn't really understand what my job was. Some of them are chill and didn't even speak to me and others were so over the top it was like they truly believed that every single person wants to go work illegally and they're Americas last line of defense against it. Cue the eagle screech (that's actually a red tailed hawk) and the flag flapping magestically in the background.

If you go down without clearing customs here you need to be even more careful at the generic customs in US airports. They're not as used to Canadians and a lot more serious about any food you might be bringing down so be very careful what you pack.
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For families looking for sunshine, Palm Springs is appealing because it's probably the cheapest/shortest flight to a sunny destination in the winter with family-friendly activities (pools, resorts etc).

But yes, if you booked a trip there now, you're being unpatriotic. (No judging though, I still pay for Netflix, Disney, is that unpatriotic too?)

The lady who got detained in Mexico was a moron based on what I read on various places.

She had a TN visa but the US revoked it and told her she needed to go to a consulate.

Instead, she went to Mexico and tried to enter the US there by applying at the border.

Even her lawyer told her that was a bad idea.

They refused her entry, and Mexico refused her entry as well, so she was essentially processed for deportation back to Canada.

I'm sure she went through hell and back while being held for deportation, when it comes to US customs and border, FAFO.
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TIL (was reminded of): The current Dodge Durango was first released in 2011 and other than a refresh in 2014 has largely been unchanged. It has consistently sold around 60k units a year during that whole time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_...tion_(WD;_2011)
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Chrysler's entire lineup pretty much hasn't changed for a decade. A lot of Canadian dealers are losing money and they lost a lot of market share
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hahahaha. I thought you were trying to send us to Bolivia... Google failed me, Bolivia came up first and was like da fuq
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I was looking at direct flight destinations with a resort-style hotel and Palm Springs popped into my radar. They have a hotel called, "Grand Hyatt Indian Wells Resort & Villas" which seems to have everything. Multiple pools, lazy river, water slides, etc. Also, the flights were only 3h, which is awesome when flying with kids.
My colleague (not white....but his wife is white lol) is there right now with family and 3 kids.
Very good place to stay. They are loving it.
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My colleague (not white....but his wife is white lol) is there right now with family and 3 kids.
Very good place to stay. They are loving it.
Sigh, reddit was right. Everyone said that resort is great for the kids.

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Not as extreme but it reminded me of the 2024 GMC Terrain I drove in Alberta last year as a rental. I had to do a double take when I saw the interior and it said the model year was 2024. It hadn't been updated since 2017!

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