It was...ok? Big trunk, big backseat, looks quite nice in person (love the wagon-like profile) but I was a bit surprised at how relatively small the front was and I didn't think it was a nice as advertised (I read a lot about it being near-Lexus in quality). The seating position in the front is very sedan-like (the floor is close to the seat bottom) but the length of the seating area was short like an SUV and the sightlines out were more SUV like so it felt a bit awkward. I'm sure I'd used to it over time (and I'd find a better seat adjustment) but I felt my RDX was packaged better in the front.

I can't put my finger exactly on why it wasn't as nice as I expected - maybe it was b/c I had just sat in the Murano which felt a bit nicer/more special (I didn't like the Murano's interior design though - just had nicer materials). Toyota isn't great at having flair in their design so maybe that was it. I definitely expected window shades in the back though and was disappointed that they don't have it.

If you have a detached home, a pickup is almost a must imo.

Also a 5.0 coyote F150 gets better mileage than my G37 so the fuel economy argument isn’t really one lol.

Newer half ton pickups are much nicer to drive than boxy, rigid, SUV’s like the CX5 etc.

surprised that of all the suvs you would mention you would say the cx5. it's actually one of the more sporty car-like suvs out there

Yeah they said this about the Venza as well while the center tunnel was soft matte plastic that scratched if you looked at it the wrong way.

Are you on a 5.5 ft bed? Our 8 ft beds with 6 speed get 21L/100km. The 10 speeds get 17.

IMO fairly good steering on the CX-5 but the ride is kinda flinty and unsubstantial.

By the numbers, both RAM and Lightning have the same 300ft skidpad grip as CX-5 Turbo despite having double the weight and low rolling resistance/all terrain tires.

Domestics feel very linear, predictable, and easy to drive at full throttle/brake/ripping down Sea to Sky at 130ish.

In the last 10 yrs, power, tow ratings and payload have doubled, along with RAM coil suspension really making everyone improve brakes, stability, and comfort.

(Except the Tundra, Tacoma, and Titan - all 3 drive like garbage even in newest iteration)

Full size p/ups in the city are just obnoxious - we are absolutely not built to support them. They hog road ways (forcing others to make way for them), they take up 2 parking spots in many cases (or force others not to park next to them), they kill pedestrians at a higher rate than ever before, and with their ever growing weight they do more damage to our infrastructure (and they don't pay for it).

In 1990 a F150 regular cab was 197" long, 79" wide, and 70" tall and the smallest F150 you can get today is 209" long, 80" wide, and 76" tall (231" for a SuperCrew, the most common size). They're just ridiculous now - even some of my contractors are downsizing to Tacomas and Colorados instead, they're as big as the old full-sizers.

Edit: I'm not against their existence or people owning them - there's a time and place for them. If I lived out in the sticks, had car/boat I needed to tow etc then sure. Living in the city with 1 kid with no boat/car? No fucking way.

Tundra is the only truck.

Honda Ridgeline? Is that a decent mid size PU for the city?

-speaking of vehicles, this guy wants Ford to buy back a defective hybrid haha:

The guy's mistake is buying a Ford SUV:


https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/0...tive-buy-back/

Jason Turner bought a new Ford Escape plug-in hybrid from a dealership in Penticton in April of last year.

The Kelowna man says in December, the automaker issued a safety recall for a defective battery.

I could lose motive power, increasing my risk of crash, and there is also the potential of thermal venting which could cause my battery to catch on fire,” Turner told 1130 NewsRadio.


Ford is asking affected drivers to avoid using the plug-in charge feature of their vehicles until the automaker is able to roll out a fix for the issue. Ford anticipates this could happen within the next three months.

Turner says that has effectively disabled the EV mode of his hybrid.

Turner says he’s been back and forth between Ford Canada and the dealer, Bannister Ford, but he is not happy with the answers he has been given, or his gas bill.

“We are stuck driving these vehicles that could potentially put us and our families at risk, anybody that’s on the road, if I lose power and cause an accident. It just doesn’t make sense to me. And I was paying nothing for gas and now I’m paying for gas again.”

Turner says he’s lost patience.

“When I first reached out to Ford, I was very courteous and polite in my emails but I’m constantly getting the runaround and I’m not getting any answers. It’s the same thing over and over — reach out to the service department when a remedy is available,” he explained.

I dont know why canada, which is more socialist than the usa protects its citizens with a lemon law. A car is the average canadians second biggest purchase after a house.

The G37 is hardly a poster child for fuel economy :lol
If we really get into it the VQ is obscene with how poor it's economy is.

It's not really much wider which is where a lot of problems arise while driving regularly.

They are much much longer though which makes street parking and navigating tight corners challenging.

The height thing is ridiculous which goes back to everything just being taller now. I find the trunk of the X5 being really tall, but at least I have air suspension? :badpokerface:

The solutions to weight would be a weight surcharge on insurance or registration. Make it annual. Class it at 5000lbs, then 7500lbs, then 10,000lbs. My X5 is almost 6000lbs and I agree it's heavy and I would pay that surcharge to own it.

My neighbour would hate it though lol. He has a G wagen, a X5, and a TRX

I’m stuck on why a pickup truck is a must if you own a detached home???

I’ve never thought to myself once that I wanted or needed a pickup.

An SUV for 4wd in Calgary, sure, but I mean I’ve never picked up anything I couldn’t fit in our current dying Kia Soul with the seats down??? That includes furniture and 18’ ladders etc

Can't own the Libs and be a real man if you don't drive a full size p/up out of your detached house's garage every morning.

18'????????????????????

I pulled some numbers from MotorTrend's figure 8 test; which includes braking, cornering, acceleration.
Domestic pickups having higher lateral G on A/T tire suggest great chassis balance.

X3 M40i - 24.8 sec @ 0.78 g, on staggered Michelin PS4S
Rivian R1T - 25.9 sec @ 0.72 g
X7 xDrive40i – 26.1 sec (0.70 g)
F-150 Lightning – 26.3 sec (0.69 g)
Camry XSE AWD – 26.7 sec (0.67 g) ​
X3 xDrive30i – 26.9 sec (0.64 g)

Ram 1500 Laramie – 27.7 sec (0.62 g)
CX-5 Signature – 27.7 sec (0.61 g)
Wrangler 4XE Willys - 28.0 sec (0.60g)
Silverado 1500 High Country – 28.1 sec (0.60 g)

Toyota makes some real shitters that drive worse than a bastardized Jeep on mud terrain tires and live front/rear axles.

Tundra – 28.8 sec (0.59 g)
Toyota Tacoma (2024) – 29.0 sec (0.57 g)

homes being the biggest investment in one's life, don't think we have the greatest mechanisms for protection for home owners too

so we're 2 for 2 Kappa :troll:

Can EV drivers get added to that too? Those cars aren't light compared to their gas alternative and at least those big ass trucks are contributing to road fixed via gas taxes.

It can reach 18’, those little giant ones at Costco have great packaging how they unfold and the legs can go on different height surfaces so you can use them on stairs

Probably should, most road damage is due to weight.
Silverado at 9000lbs is pretty obscene.

some form of EV tax is coming for BC. Now that the carbon tax is gone and tariff/economic uncertainties the government will find a new source of revenue.

oh yeah i have one of the gorilla versions of that ladder. heavy af but built like a tank.

I’d say I NEED a pickup about 10 times a year. If I had one I’d use it even more than that.

With that said I do my own landscaping, I’m an anti-hoarder so I love going to the dump, etc.

You can’t fit a 10 foot 2x4 into most SUV’s. I also don’t want bags of soil, plants, etc. in the back of an enclosed cab really.

If I had a garage I’d be using it even more than that as I’d probably buy a sled, a dirt bike, etc.

It’s not only for just like house work but also a gateway for toys

Yeah, aside from having a travel trailer to tow, the real usefulness is in the landscaping/gardening/yard upkeep.

We're doing a yard waste trip with a full load of trimmings etc to the Saanich yard average of twice a month spring through fall.

Right now we're doing the spring mulching, that's 3 or 4 pickup bed loads.

Could I have it delivered by a dump truck? Sure, but I don't really want to pay the fee and then have to worry about where I have to store 5 yards of mulch at a time. Doing it in a yard or two at a time is more manageable.

But we're also fortunate enough that it's not our daily driver (well, we don't daily drive any of our vehicles) so since I'm not pounding out the km's on it, I couldn't care less about the fuel costs, I can afford it.


I personally dislike actually driving the truck, it's so boring, unwieldy an non-engaging but it's convenience makes up for it. Maybe one day I'll slap a whipple on it, I hear the Coyotes take well to boost :P

Minitrucks are great!

https://i.ibb.co/W4L2Rd0z/Rampage-V6.jpg

I've never felt the need for a pickup to work on my place. But I also find them painfully boring to drive. Sometimes I use a little utility trailer, and I've found that way more useful than a truck would be. Particularly being able to simply walk straight into the back of it so I can just roll appliances in there on a dolly. For lumber I just strap it to the roof of the Grand Cherokee or Rav. I've put 8ft 2x4s into the Celica when I only needed a few. The dirt bike I put on the back of the Jeeps with a hitch carrier, and that was way more convenient than loading it into a truck bed too.

Driving a truck if you're not in construction is more of a lifestyle choice for sure. That being said, a couple buddies have full sized F150'a and the 2nd row is glorious. It's massive. It's the best for road trips since they have a tonneau cover, so the luggage stays dry and you get the absolute comfort of a big ass truck.

My dream car lineup would be:
1. Panamera
2. F150 full sized cab
3. BMW X5

It covers all the needs. If I didn't have kids, I'd swap the Panamera for a 911.