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When using one of these fuse taps, does both fuses need to be the same amp?
And does it matter which way the fuse goes in (amp number right side up or upside down?)
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Fuses are just metal of certain thickness. Some fuses use different metals that melt slower than others, but they are metals that melt at a lower temperature than the wire connecting them.
the thicker the material, the higher the amount of amps it takes to burn out/melt the metal
As for which way, fuses of that type are non directional
As for amperage ratings, the fuse that's next to the exiting wire side should be rated for what your accessory needs in order to protect it. The fuse that is inserted at the blade side that goes into the fuse box should be no higher than what the original fuse box location was rated for. In any case, the lowest rated fuse is going to burn out first.... not that the second one will burn out, so the first is the only one, so there isn't a first or second......... know what i'm saiyan, man? hee hee
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When using one of these fuse taps, does both fuses need to be the same amp?
No, they can be different
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And does it matter which way the fuse goes in (amp number right side up or upside down?)
The fuse can go in either way, but the tap has to go in the correct way. The end with the wire coming out need to be on the side that doesn't have power with the fuse pulled out of the fusebox. That gives you a totally separate circuit from the one you're tapping into. If you put it the other way around you're adding the load onto the fuse you're tapping into.
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In other words, find out which side of the fuse block is the source side. I hate it when you have to put the tap in a position that is almost impossible to install because of this. multi tester is your friend.
I always look for an empty slot in the fuse block.
If you're like me and have shitload of accessories, I bypass the factory fuse box and use these.
Beats having to find ground points each time you add an accessory. I use jumpers designed for the barrier block/strip. Clean and simple. I got mine from SMI Electronics ages ago. Not sure if they carry the stuff anymore. I don't even know if they're still open, for that matter.
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That reminds me of when I got my RX7. Part of why I got it cheap is because none of the electrical, aside from what was needed to run the engine, worked. No lights, no sunroof, no mirrors, no headlight motors, etc. The fusebox covers with the diagrams are both missing so I look them up online. Sure enough one of the engine bay fuses is in the wrong spot, and the cabin fuse box was a gongshow. Some fuses were missing, some fuses were installed for features it didn't have (like a convertible top), a bunch of fuses were blown and none were the correct size. 5 minutes later and everything but the sunroof was working.
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sorry been catching bits and pieces of this convo related to car wiring.
i want to explain the risks of oversizing electrical protection in general.
if you replace any breaker/fuse with one that is oversized from original design, you are essentially removing the protection by increasing the trip load - the rest of the system most likely was not designed for that.
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if you have something rated at 15 amps, the wire gauge is rated for 15 amps. if you throw in a breaker / fuse rated at 30 amps in-lieu of a the original 15 amp one, then it can go well past the 15 amps it was designed for...assuming your wiring was oversized to handle 30amps you'll be ok, but most of the time it would not have been the case, so this can overheat your wiring and cause damage (heat/fire for example).
i've seen this happen as a way to solve breaker trips by people not really understanding what they're doing. it's not the solution, it's actually a symptom of a problem that needs to be investigated further, the breaker tripping is doing it's job protecting the system.
Does the top (new/extra fuse) just have to be the same or lower amp than the original and it will be fine? Or it can be completely mix and match?
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The fuse can go in either way, but the tap has to go in the correct way. The end with the wire coming out need to be on the side that doesn't have power with the fuse pulled out of the fusebox. That gives you a totally separate circuit from the one you're tapping into. If you put it the other way around you're adding the load onto the fuse you're tapping into.
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I understand this one.
Don't understand this one... with the "IN" and "OUT"
Is this diagram basically saying the same thing as the one above?
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Picture of my fuse box. It's messy buy has been stable like this for about 3 years now...
I started to run out of room after installing a few things so I had to flip one of the fuse taps to make it fit. But just wondering if something is going to catch on fire some day if I did something wrong.
I'm about to install a dashcam for my parents and started researching this topic again and just wanted to make sure I'm doing things properly.
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Does the top (new/extra fuse) just have to be the same or lower amp than the original and it will be fine? Or it can be completely mix and match?
It can be completely mix and match.
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I understand this one.
Don't understand this one... with the "IN" and "OUT"
Is this diagram basically saying the same thing as the one above?
Those diagrams are saying the same thing I was. 12V needs to be supplied on the correct side, otherwise the new circuit and the old one are both pulling through the original fuse, which you don't want. Like this:
See how the power for the new circuit would have to go through both fuses? You don't want that to happen. It will still work, it's just more likely to cause issues with fuses blowing, etc.
If you've added that many circuits to your car you should probably run a fused feed to a new fuse box inside the car for all your accessories, like one of these:
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I understand this one.
Don't understand this one... with the "IN" and "OUT"
Is this diagram basically saying the same thing as the one above?
Yes.
Positive is on the left side on both diagrams. Upper and lower left sides are joined.
The right sides (the outputs) are independent.
Top one with the pigtail is the accessory you want to add.
If you delete the bottom fuse, your original accessory will no longer work, but the top one will still work. As long as there is a fuse inserted to complete the circuit.
Think of DC (direct current) electricity as if it was water flowing through your house. Water enters from the left. The fuses are like taps. No fuse, the water stops flowing. If the bottom tap is turned off (no fuse or broken fuse), no water flows through your basement faucet. Water will still flow to the upstairs faucet. Take that fuse off and no water flows through your upstairs faucet.
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Over the years, I've encounter the World Financial Group, Amway, Enagic, all these MLM bullshit. One of my managers I've built a decent relationship with at a different department has started to poke at me in getting me to join World Wide Group. I went on google and it has 4.8 stars with 220x google reviews, which is damn good reviews (whether it's legit or people paid to write good reviews, I wouldn't know).
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With any business or work, a few make the big bucks and the rest are small potatoes fighting for the scrapes. They have these speakers that sell you the millionaire dollar dream on how they are retired in their early 30's yayayadada. So I literally straight up asked my manager, what are you making for transparency purposes and he's telling me he's making about 5 digits annually, which has allowed his wife to work part-time. So I'm guessing $10-20K conservatively speaking, which is a nice added additional to your regular job.
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FWIW, Amway is now mostly rebranded to WWG. Their pitch is exactly as you said it. Training, motivational, etc.
World wide group.
One of my closest friends makes over $1MM annually. It works, but it doesn't work for everyone.
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