^The mother first language isn't English, so she likely don't really know how her words affects other. The intent isn't to be racist. Fuck Shaw and their shitty customer service anyways. They nickel and dime every fucking thing. In this case, over a word someone said?

I think she should be booted just moreso to learn to speak to people with respect regardless of the intent.

The term in her native language is considered racist, so not sure how her not being proficient English is relevant.
If I'm in china and call someone there a racist slur in English, my lack of understanding of Chinese isn't relevant. Also how are they nickel and diming them lol. Did they give her a bill for coming into the store?

^ so this is all interesting to me as I learned something new about the Chinese language just a few hours ago while picking my daughter up from guitar lessons.

Another dad, also Caucasian, was speaking Chinese to his son and the boy’s teacher commented that it must’ve been a hard language to learn. For me, knowing that English is very difficult compared to other languages to learn, I eavesdropped more than I normally would.

The dad said that the hardest part was understanding that the language is more tonal and that the same word can have a completely different meaning depending on how you say it in terms of inflection. I’m not sure if he was speaking Mandarin or Cantonese, but I guess my question is, can gwailo be used as a derogatory term as well as more of a neutral description for a white person or even perhaps in a different light?

My best bud since 1989 when he moved here from HK has called me gwailo more than once. Mostly when he’s been mad so if there might be a chance it could also be a term of endearment, I’d like to tell him that I know each time he’s called me a gwailo it just means he loves me. That would piss him off so good :lol

“Gwai Lo” is a Cantonese term, literally meaning “ghost guy”. I would classify it as a slang/borderline-derogatory term to describe a Caucasian. The more polite term would be “sai yan”, which means “western person”.

But then with most languages, there are so many nuances involved… you could use gwai Lo to insult a stranger, but it could also be seen as a term of endearment in a twisted way in punkwax’s case :lol

Just like the N word. When a brotha calls another brotha N ...it's a term of brotherly love. But if a white guy uses it, racist ...except when the two are best buds.

Look at all these gwailos here tripping over themselves with a victim complex :lol

Gross people be gross. Regardless of your race

Of course if it was an old white guy going on some rant in German he’d be a nazi and all over global news etc

The ones REALLY committed to victimhood will transcend gwai into something else entirely.

Read the story.

No one was going on a racist rant at the Shaw store. It was an old Chinese lady that used the ambiguous term "gwailo" instead of the more polite term while speaking Cantonese to her son-in-law when he asked who helped her the other day.

It's basically analogous to if some old white guy is asked "who helped you?, and he said, "oh that Oriental fellow here yesterday". Is it racist? No, just horribly out of date but no malice was involved.

Maybe I don't got no feelings lol, but seems like people nowadays get butthurt or "offended" quite easily over a word or something someone said? Then it makes the news, how is this even news worthy article.....There was never a bad intent with what the mother said (could be all she knew to describe Caucasian).

No that's bullshit n u know it

She could ha e said the "white guy" or anything else, instead she chose the derogatory term that's so ingrained in cantos gweilo hutgwei chazai the racism is so ingrained in them that it's natural and they're shocked when someone is mad

It's like white ppl in the 1930s being shocked if anyone got mad at them for using the N word

But you don't need to explain why it's wrong, they know, they just don't think it matters

TIL "Peaches" is not a cover song. I thought it was because of a King of the Hill episode where Hank played the guitar and sung the first line of the song. I thought PUSA covered a country song because why would Hank Hill listen to PUSA?

Gweilo = "Whitey" in English and along the lines of Negro, Oriental, maybe even Chinaman. Of course this is not a perfect analogy but I would say it's more accurate than Gweilo being analogous to "N*gger" or "Ch*nk"

I'm just as annoyed by the casual xenophobia that permeates Chinese Culture/Language as you are but to equate some grandma's limited and ignorant vocabulary to White Nationalists or back-in-the-day Segregationists slurs is a bit of a stretch. Por Por may have ignorant outdated views but doesn't want to separate from all whites nor does she want to enslave black people.

I remember being in Shanghai for 6hrs during a layover, I decided to take the maglev in, and a cab back to the airport

Poked around the city for an hour, had a senior guy point at me and laugh, followed by a shivering action from him. Then we both nodded and laughed (I was wearing shorts, and it was like 10C at the time, he was in full winter gear)

So I hop into a random cab, the male driver in his 40s is all cheery happy to see a white guy, doesn't speak any English, all good of course

Then about 1 minute after we start driving, he calls up his homie on facetime, on the highway, and starts chatting, laughing every couple of words, then it gets strange... He would move the phone from himself, over to me, several times (so he could show his friend I was in the car?) followed by severe laughing
I don't understand a word of what happened, except the four or five times guilo came out of his mouth howling with his buddy

This was like 5 years ago, I didn't care, nor did I know, I found the entire scenario extremely amusing and confusing

Today, it's a conversation starter, worth a laugh

Maybe someone from china can explain this 5 year mystery

^ bro, if someone explained it to you ... it wouldn't be half as funny! The reason it happened is so that 5 years later, you can retell it on a forum to crack other people up. That's it ... that's the purpose ... :lol

You can't say oh it's not Hitler/kkk/skinhead level racist so it's okay /shrug

racist is racist, we allow no quarter when it's racism against Asians why are we even needing to discuss it now simply because it's against whitey is messed up

we don't? i thought a large part of the problem in the west is that we do...
:shrug:

We don’t prevent it, as you can’t really make the choice for someone not to be racist, but it’s quite literally one of the most demonized acts in Canada by normal people at the moment, as it should be. There’s no place for racism from anyone.
Imagine this was some old white dude referring to an employee as a chinaman. It would be top story on every news outlet in BC and you’d have people calling for jail time.
Again, it’s nowhere near the N-word, as it doesn’t come with the relation to centuries of oppression, slavery, etc. I’m not gonna cry about it if someone calls me a gwailo. I just don’t care, but being asked to leave the store was hardly an overreaction.
Honestly, I’m white devil, so I have no idea what it’s like to experience real racism, but at least the people I associate with would not tolerate racism against someone if we saw it.

Anybody know how best to shop/buy original artwork or paintings locally?

Before COVID I went to the east side culture crawl and saw some nice stuff, but besides that event I have no idea how I'd be able to get access to that kind of original artwork normally.

Thanks

I ventured into the topic after getting my house and TBH, I think it's robbery in plain daylight for the price that they are offering.

So, unless there's anything/anyone in particular that you are looking for, I'd suggest going to places such as Emily Carr, where they have an annual Student Art Sale or any local Art exhibition where the intention is not really about selling, but simply a way for new artists to show their work.

Find an artist you like, and get in touch with them. I'm actually in the process of commissioning a painting from an Emily Carr graduate. We discussed what I wanted, she visited our place and is now working on it.

First they put chemicals in the water to turn the freakin' frogs gay, then they put litterboxes and lowered tables in cafeterias for students who identify as furries.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-po...rries-schools/

This has nothing to do with anything but I need people to know this is something someone believed.

funny you mentioned emily carr, i was just going to suggest checking out the shops on granville island or similar markets. does the NVan quay have artwork in their market?

Culture crawl used to be a spot to find some value with original art but as HeHE said it’s gotten kinda crazy

I’ve actually tried to bargain with a few artists I really liked as I loved the work but just couldn’t afford the price. My reasoning is if I can pay 75% of the asking price and tell anyone who comes into my home about you and your work, it adds a bit more value to your work than grinding a price for 2 years until someone grabs it and forgets who you are. The argument doesn’t work very well lol

I have two commissioned peices that I love and I hit a real sweet spot with because now the same artists are charging triple or more for similar peices. Emily carr is probably a good place to start to find some value