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underscore 01-18-2023 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9087907)
You can't honestly believe that wfh is good for business though. Are some people more efficient? I'm sure they are. Are most? I'm sure we can quantify that's a no. Private sector can do what they want without me caring. These are government employees, so really, everyone in here has a right to an opinion on it.

Based on what?

Hondaracer 01-18-2023 08:24 AM

Underscore taking care of kids mid-work with rampant time theft “you’re just angry bro”

68style 01-18-2023 08:51 AM

It’s a bit odd to take that stance, “time theft” as it were occurs in every industry. Just because you’re an employee of the government / your salary is paid through tax dollars doesn’t mean you need to be chained to a desk like some slave does it?

We’re all in the same boat, we’re all the ones working for someone and at the lower end of a totem pole to a certain extent… we should be on the same side. You guys sound like CEO’s when you say that lol… so yah take 5 minutes here and there to write back on whatsapp to someone or go for a smoke or whatever. Everyone does it.

Like I mentioned before, there are plenty of monitoring tools in place like any workplace. If anyone is miserable about the work/life balance or upset that they can’t take any breathers when they’re working, they should probably consider switching careers IF it bothers them enough that they care or wish they could do the same.

It’s give and take, sometimes you need half an hour for something, you give half an hour back at the end of the day or whatever. Are there some people who take and take and take? As with all facets of life — YES. Are most people honest though? I think so. At least from what I see.

whitev70r 01-18-2023 08:53 AM

I had to call CRA during covid time, and I get this warning that my call might not be secure because I'm talking to someone who is working from home. Then I hear what appears to be kids in the background ... not very professional. Go back to the office!

68style 01-18-2023 08:54 AM

^ Lol those stories were all over the place form literally every industry on the planet. That’s an individual issue. Tired trope.

underscore 01-18-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9087927)
Underscore taking care of kids mid-work with rampant time theft “you’re just angry bro”

I'm just asking for a citation other than "pulled it out of my ass like an angry boomer" but nice job assuming how I operate.

westopher 01-18-2023 09:36 AM

I don't know anywhere that I've mentioned in against working from home. People should totally be able to do it. What people shouldn't get to do is be entitled to it if it wasn't discussed with their employer as being a long term thing.
Give and inch and people take a mile.

mikemhg 01-18-2023 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9087870)
Reports came out today that the recommended amount of alcohol consumption should be 2 or less drinks per week. Don't shoot the messenger

Had a normal checkup today and the doctor asked the standard "How many drinks a week do you have?" I told him "4-6", his eyes visibly bulged.

4-6 per week (most times less) is a large amount?

Damn.

westopher 01-18-2023 09:58 AM

Lol I'm like 3 a day lately. Need to cut back.

whitev70r 01-18-2023 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9087930)
^ Lol those stories were all over the place form literally every industry on the planet. That’s an individual issue. Tired trope.

Defensive and a bit triggered ... are we?

Some things require a higher level of security, I think CRA belongs to that tier. If I'm on the phone with Telus talking about my probs with them, it's a bit less confidential, surely you'd agree.

SSM_DC5 01-18-2023 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9087952)
Had a normal checkup today and the doctor asked the standard "How many drinks a week do you have?" I told him "4-6", his eyes visibly bulged.

4-6 per week (most times less) is a large amount?

Damn.

https://globalnews.ca/video/9417786/...nd%20Addiction.

sonick 01-18-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9087952)
Had a normal checkup today and the doctor asked the standard "How many drinks a week do you have?" I told him "4-6", his eyes visibly bulged.

4-6 per week (most times less) is a large amount?

Damn.

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9087953)
Lol I'm like 3 a day lately. Need to cut back.

I have been trying to cut back as well and am currently attempting dry January. I have done dry months a few times in the past successfully but did not find much impact one way or another, but I admit this time around I have had a few cheat days already.

I am not sure if it's due to age or just more self-awareness of my mental and physical state, I definitely see a big difference this time around. Mentally my anxiety is way lower on the days where I don't drink. Also having a fitbit, I can definitely tell a difference in my resting heart rate, sleep quality, and heart rate variability.

I have been testing out a wide variety non-alcoholic beers and beverages this month. In case anybody is interested, here are my thoughts:
  • Partake Brewing - Canadian company, their beers are very low calorically (10-20 cals per can), but flavor wise very thin and absolutely does not satisfy the feeling of drinking a beer. Good if you want to cut back on calories, go for the Stout.
  • Athletic Brewing - popular brand in the states, with investors like JJ Watt and Dave Chang. Beer is flavorful but still has that distinct sweetness of a near-beer. My go-to is the extra dark, since the sweet roasted flavors mask the sweetness.
  • Heineken 0.0 - This is one of the closest to the real-thing NA beers I've tried. If you don't pay attention, it could pass off as a real Heineken. Would recommend if you don't mind macro brewed lager. It is, however, expensive. Costs almost as much as the real beer, which feels kind of weird.
  • Budweiser Zero - Available cheap from costco, almost 1/3 the price of Heineken 0.0. Taste wise also one of the closest to real bud light. That is, if you're good with bland light beer. Lower calories at 50 per can too. Very chuggable. Good cheap way to satisfy.
  • Clausthaler Dry Hopped - Although the brand is available locally, I only found the well-reviewed 'dry hopped' version at Trader Joes in the US. I haven't tried their basic one, but the dry-hopped one is fantastic. Not only does it taste like real beer, it tastes like a GOOD real beer. Highest in calories though at 93 calories per can. Like a dildo without batteries, fills you up without the buzz.
  • Lagunitas Hoppy Refresher - Also only found in the US, not technically a beer but a sparking water infused with Hops. This shit is DELICIOUS. Refreshing with light sweetness, but zero calories. Dunno how they do it. Tastes like a gin and soda, or white wine spritzer. Would drink this regularly even outside of dry January

Also apparently in Europe athletes use Non-Alcoholic beer as a post-workout 'isotonic' energy drink, so there's that lol.

donk. 01-18-2023 11:06 AM

Dry January?

Fuck that, as Lahey would say "I am the liquor"

Summer is the worst for drinking, come home after sweating your balls for 8hrs at work, crack a can in the shower and it's saaaaallll gooood

Hondaracer 01-18-2023 11:08 AM

Bra, if I’m not drinking I’ll drink a club soda or water

Good on ya for trying them but the effect is half the fun lol.. personally I could
Give up drinking liquor tom and never think about it. It’s beer and wine that’s got a grip on me. I’m also trying to go dry January to recover from the previous months and so far so good

68style 01-18-2023 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9087954)
Defensive and a bit triggered ... are we?

Some things require a higher level of security, I think CRA belongs to that tier. If I'm on the phone with Telus talking about my probs with them, it's a bit less confidential, surely you'd agree.

What did I do that made you think I was triggered? I laughed... and no I do not work for CRA.

If you didn't like it then complain, you had a bad customer service experience. It's not like CRA itself is a vault, it's open office concept, so everyone can hear your stuff they don't go into an isolation chamber when they talk to you.

I don't get the security angle, are you worried that a crying baby might overhear your tax information? Same computer system being accessed by the same credentials on a protected network.

underscore 01-18-2023 11:45 AM

If you want non-alcoholic stuff London Drugs has a pretty solid selection. If you grab the Corona Sun Brew just an fyi it has vitamin D in it so it might keep you up if you drink it in the evening.

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9087948)
I don't know anywhere that I've mentioned in against working from home.

You said it's bad for business and complained about people who wfh but sure.

GLOW 01-18-2023 11:54 AM

the problem i see with non-alchy beer is that many are almost the same or more than the cost of actual beer it seems, or more expensive than pop at least where i'm like you know what i may as well drink a pop if i'm going non-alchy and carbonated...

sounds like costco bud-zero is the best bang for buck non-alcoholic beer? maybe i'll give it a try...

i think i tried president's choice in the past, but their club soda was cheaper :lol

lilaznviper 01-18-2023 12:07 PM

a lot of my clients are doing 3 days in the office 2 days at home as a hybrid and shared work space desk.

i've got a couple of clients, asking me to install software to monitor some people as it seems they are not completing their tasks when at home, always away on teams.

for everyone that has an issued computer from work, you won't even know the software is installed on your computer as there is no indication of it.

sonick 01-18-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GLOW (Post 9087973)
the problem i see with non-alchy beer is that many are almost the same or more than the cost of actual beer it seems, or more expensive than pop at least where i'm like you know what i may as well drink a pop if i'm going non-alchy and carbonated...

sounds like costco bud-zero is the best bang for buck non-alcoholic beer? maybe i'll give it a try...

i think i tried president's choice in the past, but their club soda was cheaper :lol

My days of seeking out unique sours and IPAs have passed, these days I am just as happy with an ice cold Lucky Lager. If it's the middle of summer I might even put some ice in it as well, SE asia style.

So if you're not too discerning with your beer and are fine drinking cheap macro light lagers then yeah I'd say Costco Bud Zero is the best all-around drinkable one that doesn't remind you that you're drinking non-alcoholic beer every sip. It was $20 for 24 cans.

Yeah, soda is cheap, but I'd rather subject my body to damage by alcohol than high-fructose corn syrup soda lol. I have a soda stream and drink club soda regularly too, but it gets boring very quickly.

westopher 01-18-2023 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9087971)
If you want non-alcoholic stuff London Drugs has a pretty solid selection. If you grab the Corona Sun Brew just an fyi it has vitamin D in it so it might keep you up if you drink it in the evening.



You said it's bad for business and complained about people who wfh but sure.

I haven't complained about anyone working from home. I literally complained about them fucking crying about going back.
As for the business, it depends on the business. If you have to interact with your coworkers as a group there's no way a zoom call is more efficient than being in the same room together.

Badhobz 01-18-2023 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by donk. (Post 9087963)
Summer is the worst for drinking, come home after sweating your balls for 8hrs at work, crack a can in the shower and it's saaaaallll gooood

:heckno: Is this a white guy thing? :heckno:

Where does the can go while you scrub your sweaty balls?

sonick 01-18-2023 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9087987)
:heckno: Is this a white guy thing? :heckno:

Where does the can go while you scrub your sweaty balls?

I am not white and love me an ice cold shower beer.

westopher 01-18-2023 01:11 PM

I am a white and also love a shower beer.

bcrdukes 01-18-2023 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9087989)
I am not white

Lies

Badhobz 01-18-2023 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9087990)
I am a white

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