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that being said, the drive to oregon coast/norcal coast is spectacular. One of my absolutely favorite drives.
Stay off the i5, go the twist route along the coast and just enjoy your time. All the little towns and villages along the way are super charming and the regional foods are all affordable + tasty. Mo's clam chowder is legit in oregon coast.
It’s no wonder everyone just sticks to the I5 because everything else is just a weavy headache.
Going from Portland to Cannon beach even it was wayyy longer than I expected because it’s such a weird route. I’m sure that’s how most of that route ends up being.
Not only long, but WAY fucking different in temperature.
Picture 4 dudes hopping into a car on a summer day in Portland (30 degrees out), shorts and beaters on, cooler filled, looking forward to a beach day at Cannon.
We drive the almost 2 hours to get there only to arrive into a village of Patagonia wearing families, with it being 9 degrees out in the summer. We could see our motherfucking breaths.
Needless to say we spent 30 mins there only to drive another 2 hours back to sunny/hot Portland, massively disappointed.
I've never experienced such a disparity in temps in such a relatively short drive (aside from going somewhere at elevation).
How many of you went away for University? What was the experience like?
My son has always played football, he's in grade 12 graduating this year. University offers started going out to some students in November, they'll continue to go out probably until end of spring and as offers get denied because some of the best athletes get so many, more become available.
He received an offer from a decent University but it really couldn't be further away from home in Halifax, I don't know how I feel about sending my only child all the way across the Country. He may still get other offers closer to home as there is quite a bit of time left.
His other option if another offer doesn't come is stay at home, go to school locally and play Canadian Junior Football, he has a tryout next month and they've been pursuing him so I don't think he'd have a problem making that team, he also has played for some of the coaches there before. Honestly, I would prefer this to him going to Eastern Canada because he can use it as a springboard to jump over to a University football team in year 2 or 3.
He doesn't have aspirations of being a pro football player but he has always wanted to play College Football and when he got that offer I was so happy for him that his hard work paid off. I'm really torn about putting too much pressure on him one way or the other or trying to convince him not to go and then have him regret it.
I'm curious what experiences others have had with going away to University? Was it a good experience? Did you have support close by and if not was that rough?
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How many of you went away for University? What was the experience like?
My son has always played football, he's in grade 12 graduating this year. University offers started going out to some students in November, they'll continue to go out probably until end of spring and as offers get denied because some of the best athletes get so many, more become available.
He received an offer from a decent University but it really couldn't be further away from home in Halifax, I don't know how I feel about sending my only child all the way across the Country. He may still get other offers closer to home as there is quite a bit of time left.
I'm curious what experiences others have had with going away to University? Was it a good experience? Did you have support close by and if not was that rough?
First of all, congrats to you and your son!
Second, I didn't go away for university but had several friends who did and I wish I did too - it really helped them grow up and mature as they had to take on so many more responsibilities. They got serious about life sooner than I did and they also made lifelong friends out of university in a way that's harder to do when you live at home. My closest friend at the time moved to Ottawa with no support at all and he really thrived while my g/f at the time moved to Montreal and learned very quickly what she didn't want to do with her life.
When the day comes I'm going to encourage my daughter to move out for university even if she chooses to stay nearby.
Third, Halifax is a cool place to go to university and it's not actually that far now that there are direct flights there (it's not much further than going to Toronto - just an hour more)
quasi - First and foremost, congratulations! You must be really proud! Forgive me for the long winded post as I am very passionate about this very topic!
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Now, let me throw out my caveat and say that I do not have kids, but I do have many years of experience in working with, and running the co-op program at my workplace. The range of students I get are made up of a combination those who moved away for school and to do their co-op terms, or for their internships, and also kids who stayed home for school and doing their co-op locally.
Note that I grew up in Vancouver and was encouraged to stay home for school, so there is a level of bias, but I am over that. (I wanted to put that out there for transparency.) I have been in the GTA for a number of years now where I call it home. In hindsight, I wished I had gone away for school.
Observationally, the kids who move away for school tend to work harder and are forced to grow up, as opposed to the kids who live at home and get dropped off and picked up for their co-op term (yes, many of their parents still drive them and they will not drive.)
There is enough evidence for me to club co-op students who have moved away from home in the category of those who generally do better in classes and have built a stronger work ethic, and are far more resilient to those who stay home. I feel this way because they've learned how to do things on their own without mom and dad being their fallback mechanism. They are also more resourceful in many ways you can imagine.
I have many colleagues who have gone through the same situation as you and they've spoken to me about it. All of them want their kids to stay home for school, very few will want their kids to go somewhere for school, but those who do are the parents who fully understand and support their child's academic and career goals, and for a variety of reasons, be it financial, growth, and what have you.
If said school is Dalhousie, you should rest assured your kid will be fine. Most of my co-op students did not have a support system and are from Vancouver, Calgary, the GTA, and overseas. It's a good university town. Some of my best co-ops are from Dalhousie and like supafamous said, lots of flights from Toronto, so there is a great opportunity for your kid to experience life on the other side of the country. Whatever you choose, I'm sure it will be the right decision. All the best!
congrats, i'm sure it's a proud feeling you must have.
i've done post secondary (from 17) at home, and as a young adult away from home.
i'd say it depends on his maturity and independence. i wasn't mature enough at 17 to grasp the level of independence and maturity needed for post secondary and you really have to time manage/look after yourself
fast fwd couple years school out of province and i was on my own, i had to cook (haha), do laundry, dishes, etc on my own, time manage etc, it really made me grow up, broke my addiction to watching TV, etc. i made some friends but also already had a couple of classmates i knew already there, so having a couple of people with you, in the same classes does help a lot when you're young and can feel alone, especially in a competitive program
your son being an athlete i assume he has discipline which is good, but as long as he doesn't have negative influences and can keep on track he should be good. i've seen guys in the dorms (i lived off campus with a friend) that partied and flunked out as a result. mind you those guys seem to want to be there for a good time and a long time
quasi - First and foremost, congratulations! You must be really proud! Forgive me for the long winded post as I am very passionate about this very topic!
Spoiler!
Now, let me throw out my caveat and say that I do not have kids, but I do have many years of experience in working with, and running the co-op program at my workplace. The range of students I get are made up of a combination those who moved away for school and to do their co-op terms, or for their internships, and also kids who stayed home for school and doing their co-op locally.
Note that I grew up in Vancouver and was encouraged to stay home for school, so there is a level of bias, but I am over that. (I wanted to put that out there for transparency.) I have been in the GTA for a number of years now where I call it home. In hindsight, I wished I had gone away for school.
Observationally, the kids who move away for school tend to work harder and are forced to grow up, as opposed to the kids who live at home and get dropped off and picked up for their co-op term (yes, many of their parents still drive them and they will not drive.)
There is enough evidence for me to club co-op students who have moved away from home in the category of those who generally do better in classes and have built a stronger work ethic, and are far more resilient to those who stay home. I feel this way because they've learned how to do things on their own without mom and dad being their fallback mechanism. They are also more resourceful in many ways you can imagine.
I have many colleagues who have gone through the same situation as you and they've spoken to me about it. All of them want their kids to stay home for school, very few will want their kids to go somewhere for school, but those who do are the parents who fully understand and support their child's academic and career goals, and for a variety of reasons, be it financial, growth, and what have you.
If said school is Dalhousie, you should rest assured your kid will be fine. Most of my co-op students did not have a support system and are from Vancouver, Calgary, the GTA, and overseas. It's a good university town. Some of my best co-ops are from Dalhousie and like supafamous said, lots of flights from Toronto, so there is a great opportunity for your kid to experience life on the other side of the country. Whatever you choose, I'm sure it will be the right decision. All the best!
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Thank you both for your replies, yes it is Dalhousie. I don't disagree with either of you, it's really hard to think about him leaving it's something I've been battling with this entire school year knowing that there is a pretty good chance that will be the result. I thought my wife would be the soft one but I've been much more affected, at least at surface level.
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Send them away!
Have a security blanket and treat him like a man.
Things I did that I learned the hard way. You fail in school, you fail in sports. Learned to balance both.
Life caught up quick. Had to balance life fast. Yeah, meal passes were great but man it's crap food.
Lastly, the safety blanket is this... You pass the course, we pay for the course with your transcript. I know of people who scammed their parents and spent the tuition on girls and that was a lesson learned.
Loans and grants are available, go ask for it. I learned quick that hot water, internet, electricity costs stuff and realized money management is important.
3 of my friends I grew up with went to Bishops (a seeming football power house)
We went to go visit the oldest brother the year he graduated, 2008 I think it was?
Fuck what a shit show lol! Bishops was like what you’d imagine these college movies aew like lol. All of them graduated and loved it but after I got back was kinda thankful I could live ar home during school lol.
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Congrats to your son, Quasi, and you must be a proud daddy now.
I have both studied university locally and later went to Onterrible to finish my degree, and I am definitely in the "send them away" camp. The benefits are many and varied as others have already mentioned. In hindsight, the biggest benefits of me going away for school was of course the need to learn how to grow up and be independent very quickly. It was challenging, and even difficult at times, but it was also extremely fulfilling because nearly everything being thrown at me was an entirely new experience, so it was very much an eye-opening and horizon-expanding experience. For a young person, that kind of growth in perspective is really important.
On the other hand, be prepared for the costs if your son plans on going away for school. There is just no way around it -- it is gonna be expensive. It was expensive back when I did it 20+ years ago (gosh that makes me sound so old...), and it is far more expensive to do it now. Still, as a dad, I would say this is money well spent on your son. You definitely do not want to provide for his entire living and studying costs because that is part of the puzzle that he needs to figure out for himself. But you wouldn't want to leave him in a position where he is forced to financially support himself to the point where he wouldn't have enough time for studying, football, and whatever else that may come his way.
When I went to Onterrible for school, I had financial support from the university, so I didn't have to worry about money too much. Near the end of my studies, my financial support from the university did run out, and it was very fortunate that I was able to "borrow" some money from my brother (who has already been working for a few years) to finish off my schooling.
Housing is gonna be a major challenge because we're pretty much having a housing crisis across the entire country. This very same problem was already widely reported on back in September (this year) when school started, and I don't anticipate it improving in September 2024.
In your son's case, I would say that you should equally support whichever decision he comes to. As a parent, I keep reminding myself that I wouldn't ever want to be an impedement to my child's growth. My cousin had the chance to study medicine abroad, but she was too much of a sheltered daughter, and my aunt and uncle really wanted her to stay home (in town) too, so she did. She still went to med school, but I keep thinking that she could have grown so much more had she ventured out to see the big world that is out there.
If your kid want's to play collage ball let him. I have 2 nephews who play hockey. both were out of the house by 17 living with billets in some small town. It's been great for them. Athletes these days are a lot more disciplined than before.
@quasi - dalhousie is an awesome school and halifax is a fun place to be.
Le gf and i were out there while she did her masters and we really enjoyed it - and we don't even drink Not to mention all the benefits of having your kid live away from home during post-secondary.
Gawd, heard about this and thought uh-oh, I hope this doesn't become a big deal ... and become grounds for an appeal, worst yet, a reversal of outcome! Creative investigators and cops to get a lead and solve this. This is the case of that 13 yo Burnaby girl who was killed near Central Park.
Eby backs police who secretly took DNA from Kurds to solve B.C. murder
If I was in his shoes I’d certainly do everything in my power to use that to get the case overturned, I’m sure in Canada shit has been overturned for farrrrr less.
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It'd be extremely unfortunate if the case gets overturned in a higher court. I don't have a problem with the police going undercover to collect DNA samples, but they should have followed procedure and obtained a warrant to do this.
Why was it so difficult for them to pull a warrant first? When it is part of the investigation, surely the court would have approved for the warrant.
What about the 147 people who had their DNA documented without their consent or a warrant? I'm assuming that's a minimum number that we're only hearing about because this operation found his brother which led to him, how many other times have they done stuff like this that aren't mentioned because it didn't turn up a lead?
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Is a warrant really required for what is considered public trash?
If these people put their cups directly into a trash bin, and the police picked them out from there would the situation be different?
When you put trash out to the curb for collection, you lose your privacy rights to it once it leaves your property line. Supreme Court of Canada has already set this precedent: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle20442343/
That wasn’t the case though they didn’t just go to the event and dig through the garbage, they were actively setting people up to collect their DNA by the sounds of it
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Not to mention all the benefits of having your kid live away from home during post-secondary.
