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Originally Posted by Great68  I don't really have a problem with the new system? I actually conveys how your kid is doing far more clearly.
People are just up in arms because it's different and it's change, and they're stubborn idiots. | Same, I don't see the problem with this. How is this grading system any different than how performance reviews are done in the real world? Every company I've worked at has had some 4-5 point system that goes: Exceeds, Meets, Needs Improvement, Corrective Action/Not meeting.
This looks pretty much just like and is clearer than the letter grade system.
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The only people this sets off are the ones that don't have the cognitive ability to reframe the evaluation into a simplistic frame of context they understand.
D = Emerging
C = Developing
B = Proficient
A = Extending
Done. I did this to neuter the rant my parents went on about the grading system after they "heard" about it on the radio. They were parroting the call in commentors they heard. Even though it's the same 10 people who call in all the time.
Once I pulled out one of the kid's report cards and explained it this way it was fine. Yes, it's overly simple, but it gets the point across.
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It’s the same system, it’s just designed so not hurt feelings or blatantly tell you you’re dumb lol
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It's a bit of a sugarcoat, I'm assuming this is for the kids to read and the teacher would explain to the parents in private that your kid is failing the class and needs extra help.
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Nowadays, there are so many behaviour and learning challenges and problems with adolescents ... are there more this gen or back when we were going to public school, they just didn't have a name for it and/or kids just had to figure it out. My teacher friends say that classroom management is a nightmare every single day.
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it's the fucking parents that freak out
keep it vague = less trouble for the teachers
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Originally Posted by Mikoyan The only people this sets off are the ones that don't have the cognitive ability to reframe the evaluation into a simplistic frame of context they understand.
D = Emerging
C = Developing
B = Proficient
A = Extending
. | That's not really quite it though. It makes more sense if think relative to the grade curriculum, where 100% means your kid is tracking the curriculum, that's "Proficient". "Extending" would be >100%, ie your kid is demonstrating beyond the curriculum.
For example my kid got an "Extending" in reading because he's already reading at grade 3 level at mid-grade 2.
I don't know how this is hard to understand. Nor how it "sugarcoats" anything
The letter grade system is more ambiguous. He'd get an "A" but what does that mean exactly? It doesn't convey that he's doing better than curriculum taught.
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Originally Posted by whitev70r Nowadays, there are so many behaviour and learning challenges and problems with adolescents ... are there more this gen or back when we were going to public school, they just didn't have a name for it and/or kids just had to figure it out. My teacher friends say that classroom management is a nightmare every single day. | That's also a school issue. Overcrowded classrooms and shortage of special needs assistants.
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Originally Posted by westopher That's also a school issue. Overcrowded classrooms and shortage of special needs assistants. | Parent/resource issue too. There's a significant portion of kids who don't get diagnosed officially. Schools don't have the budget to get all the testing needed. Private testing is $$. And even if the school has the funding, it's like a 2 year wait to get accessed. Schools can't get extra funding for assistants unless it's official.
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^ which goes back to my original question ... I wonder if there are more and more cases of learning disabilities, challenges, autism, etc.
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12-14-2024, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r ^ which goes back to my original question ... I wonder if there are more and more cases of learning disabilities, challenges, autism, etc. | https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...up-in-the-u-s/ Quote: |
The latest estimate of autism prevalence—1 in 68—is up 30 percent from the 1 in 88 rate reported in 2008, and more than double the 1 in 150 rate in 2000. In fact, the trend has been steeply upward since the early 1990s, not only in the U.S. but globally, says Maureen Durkin, who heads the network site in Wisconsin.
| It's rising but it's unclear why - some of it is definitely just better diagnoses.
I think stuff like dyslexia are just more widely acknowledged now - in the older days they'd just think you're stupid and treat you like that.
I also suspect that children with learning challenges or other disabilities are more commonly accepted in normal schools either because they are being forced into the regular school system (due to resources), encouraged to so they can get more opportunities, or they are just more accepted today than before.
At my kids school there is a blind 5 year old that's part of the class and she gets a helper for seemingly everything. I'm not sure how I feel about that - are they a drag on the class, is the cost of the helper worth it, does the kid benefit from being with others who are sighted, do other kids learn to accept and help this kid?
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Originally Posted by whitev70r Nowadays, there are so many behaviour and learning challenges and problems with adolescents ... are there more this gen or back when we were going to public school, they just didn't have a name for it and/or kids just had to figure it out. My teacher friends say that classroom management is a nightmare every single day. | Kids also have the inability to listen to instructions these days, even when they are trying, everything is messed up.
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Originally Posted by supafamous It's rising but it's unclear why - some of it is definitely just better diagnoses. | Another reason is -- nowadays parents are having children at much older ages than before -- esp the moms -- and the risks of having a child with autism is known to be higher the older the mother is.
I used to have a better idea of when the risks start rising. Now I only vaguely seem to recall that the risks start going up when the mother is roughly ~30, and really spikes the closer the mother approaches 40. The progression also isn't linear, with the risks rising more significantly the older the mother is.
Older dads introduce greater risks for the child too, but nowhere nearly as much as the age of the mom.
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Originally Posted by Great68 That's not really quite it though. It makes more sense if think relative to the grade curriculum, where 100% means your kid is tracking the curriculum, that's "Proficient". "Extending" would be >100%, ie your kid is demonstrating beyond the curriculum.
For example my kid got an "Extending" in reading because he's already reading at grade 3 level at mid-grade 2.
I don't know how this is hard to understand. Nor how it "sugarcoats" anything
The letter grade system is more ambiguous. He'd get an "A" but what does that mean exactly? It doesn't convey that he's doing better than curriculum taught. | 100%, but it got my parents off of that subject and onto something else like, how the DTES should be rounded up and dumped in the wilderness to fight their way back to civilization.
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It's rising but it's unclear why - some of it is definitely just better diagnoses.
I think stuff like dyslexia are just more widely acknowledged now - in the older days they'd just think you're stupid and treat you like that.
| Diagnostics are definitely a lot better. Back in the day they only focused on the "hyperactive" part of ADHD. If you had other issues too bad, you just failed stuff.
Quite a few people our age are just now getting diagnosed with this stuff as adults. They're also learning some of this stuff can be hereditary which will hopefully at least speed up the process for their kids.
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Originally Posted by Great68 I don't know how this is hard to understand. Nor how it "sugarcoats" anything
The letter grade system is more ambiguous. He'd get an "A" but what does that mean exactly? It doesn't convey that he's doing better than curriculum taught. | It's obviously sugarcoating things on the lower end, come on. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, no one likes feeling like shit getting a failing grade but when the worst 'grade' lists only positive things then yeah, feelings are being spared. I'm not against this, for young kids I think it's a good system, but it's softer than it used to be, it's ok to admit that.
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So what happened to the Stanley Park Christmas Train ... they shut it down temporarily because of an operational hazard.
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Too much Bailey's in their coffee/hot chocolate, you can only tolerate being a conductor of a train full of screaming kids if you're halfway blitzed, went a little overboard and got sleepy, nodded off and fell off the driver seat and then got molested by raccoons.
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Originally Posted by whitev70r So what happened to the Stanley Park Christmas Train ... they shut it down temporarily because of an operational hazard. | Sounds like someone got hurt due to lack of safety of some kind. https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/1...pends-service/ Quote:
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