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09-22-2011, 09:47 PM
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#26 | | racing & tech mod.
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Originally Posted by dangonay  I like the engine, but don't like the fact they use air/water intercoolers, even though they basically doubled the size. Posted via RS Mobile | okay, I'll bite. what's your beef with water to air coolers?
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09-22-2011, 09:49 PM
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#27 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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the front looks not bad.. but the rear looks amazing:  | |
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09-22-2011, 09:54 PM
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#28 | | Welcome to Planet Power ///M
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Originally Posted by flagella thought we had a thread on this already. Exterior looks so weak. I'd still prefer V10. | meh... the v10s cool at first but then you start missing low end torque. put a high revving motor in the m3, and give the m5/6 a grunty v8 and we're set. the v10 with an exhaust does sound great though.
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09-22-2011, 10:36 PM
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#29 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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Its probably a better car in every aspect other than this.  | |
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09-22-2011, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor okay, I'll bite. what's your beef with water to air coolers? | Less efficient than air/air intercoolers. Air/water intercoolers by themselves are far more efficient than air/air intercoolers could ever be. But air/water intercoolers are part of a closed system, and this system will have lower overall efficiency than a pure air/air intercooler would.
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09-22-2011, 11:00 PM
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I think it looks too tamed for an M5. But still
stunning nonetheless
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09-22-2011, 11:42 PM
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I think the main reason they used air/water is mainly for packaging. It makes the engines very modular.
Long gone are the days of NA motors. When you factor in the emissions and fuel ecconomy they they have to achieve with horse power forced induction is the only way to go.
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09-22-2011, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jah Dean | haha white is definitely stunning, Im sure after a drop and new shoes the car will be gorgeous
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09-23-2011, 01:07 AM
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looks great as a 5 Series looks ho-hum as an M imo
lots n lots of promo shots here hi-res http://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2012-m5/ | |
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09-23-2011, 04:34 AM
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#35 | | racing & tech mod.
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Originally Posted by dangonay Less efficient than air/air intercoolers. Air/water intercoolers by themselves are far more efficient than air/air intercoolers could ever be. But air/water intercoolers are part of a closed system, and this system will have lower overall efficiency than a pure air/air intercooler would. | I'm not sure I agree. The air in the intercooler gets quite a bit hotter than the temperature of the engine coolant. Since air/water is several hundred times more efficient than air/air, the water doesn't have to be much cooler than the air in order to remain more efficient than an air/air system.
FYI Ford has an air/water intercooler in the 6.7L diesel, and I've bought used ex-Nascar air/water coolers off ebay, and that's for non-turbo engines that don't even get as hot at turbo'd engine.
Clearly it must be a superior system otherwise there is no way Ford would spend the money to implement it, especially without advertising it they they do with direction injection, for example.
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09-23-2011, 04:40 AM
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Anyways i think its the door lock button... | hey dumbfuck, maybe go drive some newer luxury car with the idle stop function before failing me  | |
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09-23-2011, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by vitaminG the new engine is pretty cool, the exhaust manifold is inside the vee and it has no throttle bodies | they've been doing that since the intro of the 4.4 TT V8
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09-23-2011, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor I'm not sure I agree. The air in the intercooler gets quite a bit hotter than the temperature of the engine coolant. Since air/water is several hundred times more efficient than air/air, the water doesn't have to be much cooler than the air in order to remain more efficient than an air/air system.
FYI Ford has an air/water intercooler in the 6.7L diesel, and I've bought used ex-Nascar air/water coolers off ebay, and that's for non-turbo engines that don't even get as hot at turbo'd engine.
Clearly it must be a superior system otherwise there is no way Ford would spend the money to implement it, especially without advertising it they they do with direction injection, for example. | Don't want to jack this thread, so perhaps we could start a new thread to discuss this specific issue - I'm sure some turbo guys would be interested.
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09-23-2011, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by .Renn.Sport hey dumbfuck, maybe go drive some newer luxury car with the idle stop function before failing me | altho this function will be big in UK, and HK most NA cars will not have this function. ex. the new 911 will not have the stop start, the panamera neither does a whole lot of bmw and merc
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09-23-2011, 07:49 AM
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^ coz Americans panic if their cars stall out at the lights? LOL
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09-23-2011, 07:53 AM
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^ more like we wanna hear the sound of the engine growl even at a light, rather then sitting in silence.....
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09-23-2011, 10:37 AM
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start/stop technology is definitely being phazed in by all manufactures. Mercs are starting to roll in into there line up. Fuel economy is a huge priority for all manufactures
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09-23-2011, 10:40 AM
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I haven't driven a car with stop/start yet. Is there a pause between hitting the accelerator and the car actually moving? Or is it basically instantaneous? Posted via RS Mobile | |
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09-23-2011, 02:15 PM
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drove a new e-class in europe with it, and there is a slight pause but nothing too noticeable. it literally cranks for a split second and you're off.
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09-23-2011, 02:16 PM
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#45 | | Revscene.net has a homepage?!
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anyone read that jalopnik article about how bmw is going to use fake electronic engine noises (ala soundracer) pumped through the interior speakers to make up for the lack of engine noise in the cabin? New BMW M5 fakes its engine noise for your pleasure | |
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09-23-2011, 04:59 PM
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#46 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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The E60 M5 is still the best/greatest car i have ever driven.
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09-23-2011, 06:59 PM
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#47 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Originally Posted by turbomelon | lol, ya wtf is that. Why would i want to hear a digital replica of my engine through my cars speakers. Thats gotta be one of the riciest features available in a new car.
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09-23-2011, 08:07 PM
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#48 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 ^ more like we wanna hear the sound of the engine growl even at a light, rather then sitting in silence..... | That's ok, you can still hear the engine: Active Sound Design enhances V8 burble inside BMW M5 — Autoblog Canada
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09-23-2011, 09:06 PM
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#49 | | Resident Bullshitter
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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 altho this function will be big in UK, and HK most NA cars will not have this function. ex. the new 911 will not have the stop start, the panamera neither does a whole lot of bmw and merc | 
the new 991 will have auto start stop and last I check on my Panamera, auto start/stop is standard and its off by default.
and pretty much all BMW since 2011 have auto start/stop as standard including the E92 M3 in NORTH AMERICA
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11-27-2014, 11:40 AM
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#50 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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Originally Posted by Over9000 new cars are packed with so much technology it's
back in the days we thought we had to turbo time cars but now they engine start-stop turbo cars at the light, wassup with that doc? | totally agree !
all the new fancy items add weight to the car
end up with bigger engine, burning even more fuel, more parts can go wrong, higher repair bills
I wish car nowadays can be as simple as cars made in 90s | |
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