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[Grim]

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

Didn't appreciate his holier than thou art attitude and I asked him to take it easy on who he calls losers. ButI have to disagree with the last part of what you said. If you aren't smart enough, lucky enough and lack the resources to begin with, no matter how early you start, you will be unlikely to make it there. If you have all these attributes it doesn't really matter how old you are when you finally overcome your laziness or lack of confidence or whatever it may be.

I might have been 2 harsh, but for a "nearing" 30 yrold to ask this retarded question on.. REVscene... is definitely a big fail.

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

If that makes you feel better. I think you fail to realize that we are humans. We help our families. Or are you a turtle?

Helping and spoiling is 2 different things.

[maxxxboost]

Asking for a lot of money is unreasonable unless justified. But there is nothing wrong about asking for help.

If i was a parent, i would help.
If i was the kid, i would have no problem asking for help. Everyone matures at their own pace.
For some people that don't want help or don't need, fine; good for you. But to come in boasting about themselves and how these "people" who need help are worthless asses are just asses themselves.

But it is up to your parents. If you don't give them good enough reasons for them to give it to you. Then you better change your attitude.

[Tim Budong]

i know what the OP is going through
It hasnt been a great year for me to begin with
To put it this way, im stuck in a dead end career because of mistakes I made post secondary. To top it off, I moved out with this job, supported myself + significant other and made some cash. While all my friends went to school with a PT job, made some cash and everyone got accustomed for a certain lifestyle.

Fast Forward 4 years. Friends all graduated, making decent money and some have begun to take the next step into either investments or Real Estate. Me? I lost EVERYTHING in my life within 2 wks. Employment + a relationship.

I hit depression slightly (pair the above with the Canucks losing the cup only adds to it emotionally). I fucked up in those 4 years becuz I wasn't smart enough to SAVE the money I made from the so called "dead end career" I needed a direction, something to look forward to.

I've always had this goal to finish school. My parents were supportive, they said yes. I can fulfill a goal, and can fulfill something my parents wanted me to do 4 years ago.

I thought I'd be happy, I was given this second chance. Not many people are given opportunities like I am. My friends were all very supportive with my new found direction.

Then it hit me, school started and all I felt was guilt asking for that second chance. I did wrong in the past and I feel like garbage and a useless piece of shit because I didnt plan out my life. I coulda saved up money and went to school myself, rather I spent the money living life. Now I feel that the past 4 years, I've lived my life and accomplished nothing

My parents, being parents were supportive of course. They didnt expect me to feel guilty either, but this is a sign of maturity for myself. They are supportive in my decision, that I'm doing something with my life. Until I complete my goal and repay all the debts to them, I will always feel guilty and live with the black cloud over my head.

So take my case and decide whats best for you. As long as you feel that its not for granted, then by all means go ahead.

[minoru_tanaka]

Originally Posted by taylor192

Lots here don't appreciate his attitude either, yet unfortunately statistically he's correct, and that probably bothers people even more than they let on.

You can disagree with my last statement all you want, yet you missed my point. I didn't say it cannot happen, I said the odds are against you and exceptions are not the rule. If you've been lazy or lacking in confidence for most of your life, odds are you're not going to break out of that. Some do, most don't.

Thus while your story is nice, sadly his example is far more common.

I said he should be nicer to people. And then I gave an example of why it might hurt him in the future to try to make him reconsider. I see that you failed that post.

And I got your point. I'm saying that if you lack those attributes it will override your age. What age do you consider too late to change and overcome something like lack of confidence? At 30 you are still young and can still change or do you think at 30 people are set in their ways and for the most part will not learn?

[SFUguy]

your parents are supposed to be there for you. unless you're like the prodigal son and they disowned you.

if i were you, get the fuck out of your normal surroundings and start fresh anew in a new place.

[minoru_tanaka]

Originally Posted by Grim

I might have been 2 harsh, but for a "nearing" 30 yrold to ask this retarded question on.. REVscene... is definitely a big fail.

So are you saying if a 30 year old asked in real life you would be much more civil?

Originally Posted by Grim

Helping and spoiling is 2 different things.

Well at this point OP has said that he has been working for his parents in the family business but they dont really pay him. So IYO if he asked for money and they gave it to him, remember they are millionaires I'm guessing from this business that he works in, do you still think they are spoiling him or helping him?

If OP were like you he could berate us for not sacrificing for the family. Just saying, I think you went way to far. Have you read what you wrote?

[MG1]

thanks for that, darthchilli.

Everyone has a story and everyone is in a unique situation. Thanks for sharing your story. Everyone makes bad choices in life.

The guilt thing is pretty tough to deal with. My parents worked their asses off to put me through university. In my first year, I got kicked out - women and partying. I remember the day I got the letter telling me I was on probation. I felt like puking at the dinner table when my mom showed me the letter. I basically let my parents down. What a wake up call that was. I then went to college and earned first class marks and by the time I reentered and graduated from university, I finished at the top of my class and was the first to get a job offer. My parents were there for me from day one. It could have ended badly, but..........

Did I pay them back? No, but the look on my father's face at my congregation - the first in his family to get a university degree. A couple of years later, I got married, we bought a new house in Langley together with no help from either parents and number one son was born soon after that. Two kids later and nearing retirement, things turned out OK.

I don't care if someone has lots of money or not. The richest people in the world are the ones who come from a happy, suportive family. Look at the crackheads and homeless. One thing they have in common. No family - either abandoned or ran away. Some tragic stories behind them, as well.

My father passed away years ago and I'm looking after my mom now. The hell I'm going to put her in some fricken seniors home.

My children? My wife and I brought them into this god forsaken world. Not going to turn my back on them. What's really cool is, my kids, all on their own, have decided early on who is going to look after who when my wife and I get too old to look after ourselves.

To each their own..... to each their own.

[geeknerd]

If you're asian that immigrated in the past decade, it's okay to ask for a pile of money.

However, if you are white, than you probably dont live with your parents anymore anyways.

[MG1]

Originally Posted by geeknerd

If you're asian that immigrated in the past decade, it's okay to ask for a pile of money.

However, if you are white, than you probably dont live with your parents anymore anyways.

Not really true........

Some Italians and Europeans are pretty family oriented.

Also, one of my friends, who is Caucasian, lives at home and he's over 40. No problem. Nobody bugs him or makes a big deal about it. He pays rent and everybody's cool about it.

Lots of people get all upset over these South Asian monster homes in Surrey. The whole extended family lives there. I can only wish for this. No idea why people have hangups about other people's living arrangements. Don't people have enough on their plate to find the time to worry about others?

[Tim Budong]

Originally Posted by geeknerd

If you're asian that immigrated in the past decade, it's okay to ask for a pile of money.

However, if you are white, than you probably dont live with your parents anymore anyways.

its the 21st century. I know many whites that have graduated, have had their parents pay their post secondary education while working through it to support themselves. They also to this day still live at home saving up for future investments.

With the way the Vancouver economy is, and how expensive it is to live in this city, the above statement represents a lot of people I know.

as for that dead end career, its not dead end, in fact, I was very good at it. Just that i felt i personally needed a change in scenery as well. I also wouldnt have moved past my current position without a proper education anyways. Any higher level of management woulda almost required some sort of paper attached to it

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

I said he should be nicer to people. And then I gave an example of why it might hurt him in the future to try to make him reconsider. I see that you failed that post.

I failed that post cause you gave an exception to justify a rule. Sure it may bite him in the ass one day, yet odds are against that so he's probably OK.

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

And I got your point. I'm saying that if you lack those attributes it will override your age. What age do you consider too late to change and overcome something like lack of confidence? At 30 you are still young and can still change or do you think at 30 people are set in their ways and for the most part will not learn?

A person can change at any age, just the odds they change go down with age.

[minoru_tanaka]

Originally Posted by taylor192

I failed that post cause you gave an exception to justify a rule. Sure it may bite him in the ass one day, yet odds are against that so he's probably OK.

you are getting out of hand with this against the exception to justify a rule crusade. You've never done this before?

Look both ways before crossing the street - there's usually no cars on the road outside my house, so I shouldn't look both ways?

Don't play with fire, you might burn down the house. But the odds are low that I would so it's ok to do so?

So I can't say not to call someone a loser cause one day it might come back to bite him on the ass eh? You are grasping.

[Meowjin]

god damnit taylor.

[Tim Budong]

Originally Posted by taylor192

I failed that post cause you gave an exception to justify a rule. Sure it may bite him in the ass one day, yet odds are against that so he's probably OK.


A person can change at any age, just the odds they change go down with age.

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

you are getting out of hand with this against the exception to justify a rule crusade. You've never done this before?

Look both ways before crossing the street - there's usually no cars on the road outside my house, so I shouldn't look both ways?

Don't play with fire, you might burn down the house. But the odds are low that I would so it's ok to do so?

So I can't say not to call someone a loser cause one day it might come back to bite him on the ass eh? You are grasping.

many words can be said

its whether or not the one person can take the opportunity and run with it.

in my mind, the OP can take the million dollars. Hell the money can come from ANYONE. Its up in the hands of the OP to do something with it that guides it's path to righteousness. Until some sort of result is presented, then nothing can bad can be said

I've gotten to know a few celebrities in my line of work thats done on the side, but this certain someone told me this from his own experiences.

"In order to succeed, one must be able to release themselves from their own comfort zone. This is a way to force change within yourself due to the environment around you in order to fulfill the BASIC needs one person requires to survive"

So I take that quote and decide for myself that in order for me to further advance myself as a person, but continue to live the lifestyle I'm use to. I must learn to change. I've stopped or cut down many of my own partying/spending habits because financially, its impossible. What I do know is that this current change in lifestyle has given me motivation to return to how I live, yet be able to take it one step further and have a future.

There is also one thing my dad quoted me from a book that I will always remember. In fact, I have this written down on my "task board" at home to remind myself of an even further goal in life that I hope to one day fulfill



don't laugh at the white board... ex GF left it behind...i found it useful...HHAHA. Its so "asian" to have these things anyways....LOL

[Meowjin]

yall lucky to have parents.

noones gonna bail my ass out if i go on the streets.

[AzNightmare]

I see nothing wrong with it.
Ask your parents. I might get married in a few years, and I'll probably need some financial help getting a home.
My parents are well off, so why not? They would help.

[Walperstyle]

I took a $15,000 loan from my Mother, I'm 29. ...but then I paid it off in 3 months, because I make that much.

OP needs to get his 'ish' together. If I have no education and can pull in over $6k/mo, so can you.

[minoru_tanaka]

Originally Posted by MajinHurricane

yall lucky to have parents.

noones gonna bail my ass out if i go on the streets.

Aren't you Greek? Find a German.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

you are getting out of hand with this against the exception to justify a rule crusade. You've never done this before?

If you've read my other posts I'm consistent about this, so no, I don't use exceptions to make the rule.

Now you can stop trying in van to make some asinine point using inconsequential exceptions. I've proven it to be against the odds, and all you've done is rant and rave, making you no better than the person you were originally criticizing.

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

Look both ways before crossing the street - there's usually no cars on the road outside my house, so I shouldn't look both ways?

Don't play with fire, you might burn down the house. But the odds are low that I would so it's ok to do so?

Both are stupid examples of what you're trying to prove. The consequences of me calling someone a loser are inconsequential. So I call someone a loser who becomes an MD, now what? They might not take me as a client, yet if they work in a hospital they are bound by oath to treat me well. Meanwhile if I walk across the street or play with fire, I might be dead.

If you're going to stretch and use exceptions, at least put some thought into them. This is why I failed you originally, and why you're failing to make a point.

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

So I can't say not to call someone a loser cause one day it might come back to bite him on the ass eh? You are grasping.

Again, if you've read my other posts I often call people various names. It may one day bite me in the ass, yet odds are against it.

[minoru_tanaka]

Originally Posted by taylor192

If you've read my other posts I'm consistent about this, so no, I don't use exceptions to make the rule.

Now you can stop trying in van to make some asinine point using inconsequential exceptions. I've proven it to be against the odds, and all you've done is rant and rave, making you no better than the person you were originally criticizing.

I've written one rant at Grim. And you've been ranting and raving about how it's ok to be an asshole because odds are low that it will come back at him. What's your problem with not being an asshole?

Originally Posted by taylor192

Both are stupid examples of what you're trying to prove. The consequences of me calling someone a loser are inconsequential. So I call someone a loser who becomes an MD, now what? They might not take me as a client, yet if they work in a hospital they are bound by oath to treat me well. Meanwhile if I walk across the street or play with fire, I might be dead.

I hope you are not really too stupid to understand that you just contradicted yourself.

Originally Posted by taylor192

If you're going to stretch and use exceptions, at least put some thought into them. This is why I failed you originally, and why you're failing to make a point.

This is a simple concept that dogs, cats, monkeys, birds, pigs, cows, children, retards and mice understand. I don't understand why I have to explain it. If you walked down a dark alley and got assraped people would expect you to not want to walk down that alley anymore. But I guess being assraped in an alley is the exception and not the rule. And I guess that's why you have such a big asshole.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

I've written one rant at Grim. And you've been ranting and raving about how it's ok to be an asshole because odds are low that it will come back at him. What's your problem with not being an asshole?

I didn't rant and rave, I provided proof that the odds are slim which now upsets you that I essentially justified acting like an ass cause the odds are against any negative repercussions. Fair enough that upsets you, yet that doesn't make me wrong.

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

I hope you are not really too stupid to understand that you just contradicted yourself.

Take a moment and breathe, stop thinking of someting asinine to make yourself look stupider, now go back and reread what I posted. You might understand this time.

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

This is a simple concept that dogs, cats, monkeys, birds, pigs, cows, children, retards and mice understand. I don't understand why I have to explain it.

Most animals are not able to weigh the odds and consequences, perhaps that's why you identify with animals.

Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka

If you walked down a dark alley and got assraped people would expect you to not want to walk down that alley anymore. But I guess being assraped in an alley is the exception and not the rule. And I guess that's why you have such a big asshole.

Does anyone find it odd that this was his first thought? Dude, you have issues, and now I can and will call you a loser.

[minoru_tanaka]

Originally Posted by taylor192

I didn't rant and rave, I provided proof that the odds are slim which now upsets you that I essentially justified acting like an ass cause the odds are against any negative repercussions. Fair enough that upsets you, yet that doesn't make me wrong.


Take a moment and breathe, stop thinking of someting asinine to make yourself look stupider, now go back and reread what I posted. You might understand this time.

Oh no. you calm down and reread what you wrote and stop making yourself sound stupid.

Originally Posted by taylor192

Most animals are not able to weigh the odds and consequences, perhaps that's why you identify with animals.


Does anyone find it odd that this was his first thought? Dude, you have issues, and now I can and will call you a loser.

I've given you several examples already. What makes you think this was my first thought? You are correct though, when I thought of you it was my first thought I just didn't write it. Nice that of all the things I've already said, the only thing you consider a thought is you getting assraped

[BlackZRoadster]

Can the both of you quit arguing?

Im trying to read some of these inspirational stories and how have people's lives changed based on their pass.

Thanks