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roastpuff 06-13-2014 08:48 AM
Anything over 600 watts should be fine. 750W if you plan to upgrade to a card like the GTX780 or AMD R280/290 series.

Also, there should be some cheap i7-4770K's just about to flood the market, wait for that. (My Intel RetailEdge shipping notification just came haha)

inv4zn 06-13-2014 09:10 AM
Shameless plug, but I'm selling a 750W power supply lol - PM for details...it's also on the buy/sell :D

Mr.HappySilp 06-13-2014 10:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by christruong (Post 8486503)
Hey guys, I am building a new PC and I am pretty new at this.. So far the specs I have planned so far are,

CPU: Intel Core i5 4670K Unlocked Quad Core 3.4GHZ Processor LGA1150 Haswell 6MB($256.99)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Z87 DDR3 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 HDMI CrossFireX/SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard ($134.99)
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory($96.98)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Tower Case Black Pearl 2X5.25 8X3.5INT No PSU Front 2XUSB3.0 Audio ($79.99)
Storage1: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM ($64.99)
Video Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 760 DirectCU II OC 1075MHZ 2GB 6.0GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Video Card ($282.74)
SSD: Samsung 840 Evo Series MZ-7TE120BW 120GB 2.5in SATA III Internal SSD Single Unit Version ($99.99)
Monitor: ASUS VS247H-P 23.6IN Widescreen LED LCD Monitor 1920x1080 2ms 50M:1 300CD/M2 HDMI VGA ($169.99)
WI-FI Card: ASUS PCE-N15 300Mbps 802.11B/G/N Wireless PCI-E Network Adapter ($27.99)

I am unsure about how many watts/what kind of power supply I should get for this build. All parts are priced from NCIX and total comes to over 1300. Any tips/advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
I would either get a better video card like GTX 770 or GTX 780. Also don't cheap out on PSU. Is actually one of the most important part. Since it provides power to all your hardware you want a good one. If you are building your own PC get a Fully-Modular PSU for sure. It will save you a lot of headache in terms of cable management.

ceeteezy 06-13-2014 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by christruong (Post 8486503)
Hey guys, I am building a new PC and I am pretty new at this.. So far the specs I have planned so far are,

CPU: Intel Core i5 4670K Unlocked Quad Core 3.4GHZ Processor LGA1150 Haswell 6MB($256.99)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Z87 DDR3 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 HDMI CrossFireX/SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard ($134.99)
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory($96.98)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Tower Case Black Pearl 2X5.25 8X3.5INT No PSU Front 2XUSB3.0 Audio ($79.99)
Storage1: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM ($64.99)
Video Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 760 DirectCU II OC 1075MHZ 2GB 6.0GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Video Card ($282.74)
SSD: Samsung 840 Evo Series MZ-7TE120BW 120GB 2.5in SATA III Internal SSD Single Unit Version ($99.99)
Monitor: ASUS VS247H-P 23.6IN Widescreen LED LCD Monitor 1920x1080 2ms 50M:1 300CD/M2 HDMI VGA ($169.99)
WI-FI Card: ASUS PCE-N15 300Mbps 802.11B/G/N Wireless PCI-E Network Adapter ($27.99)

I am unsure about how many watts/what kind of power supply I should get for this build. All parts are priced from NCIX and total comes to over 1300. Any tips/advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Anyone have any PC building 101 tutorial videos? I also need a decent keyboard at a cheap price preferably with LED key backlighting, and I need to find a "cheap" windows 7/8 any recommendations?

BrRsn 06-13-2014 01:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by christruong (Post 8486756)
Anyone have any PC building 101 tutorial videos? I also need a decent keyboard at a cheap price preferably with LED key backlighting, and I need to find a "cheap" windows 7/8 any recommendations?
I had my share of gaming/mechanical keyboards over the years ... I finally just bought a cheap keyboard after my mechanical broke, and I'm pretty happy with it:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$25 off amazon.com and ship to point roberts, add in random bits and pieces you might need to get the $35 for free shipping. Typing feel is pretty similar to my macbook pro keyboard, slightly stiffer but not bad overall for gaming IMO and very quiet compared to my old mechanical.

As far as building the computer is concerned, just think of it like really expensive lego. Most of your items will come with installation instructions, but if you're unsure just youtube "how to install XXX" it's all pretty easy if you're slow and methodical

EDIT:

here's a video with some beautiful music and blue hands for you to enjoy:

underscore 06-13-2014 01:33 PM
The biggest thing is to be sure you're properly protecting everything from static and take your time.

ceeteezy 06-13-2014 01:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8486639)
I would either get a better video card like GTX 770 or GTX 780. Also don't cheap out on PSU. Is actually one of the most important part. Since it provides power to all your hardware you want a good one. If you are building your own PC get a Fully-Modular PSU for sure. It will save you a lot of headache in terms of cable management.
I am looking at two PSU's, One is semi modular and the other is fully modular. Is it weird that the semi is more expensive than the fully? is it cause of the brand? Any thoughts on these two? Where can I also buy a magnetic screw driver? Thanks.

http://www.ncix.com/detail/evga-supe...94405-1068.htm
and
http://www.ncix.com/detail/corsair-c...w-f2-78574.htm

knight604 06-13-2014 01:41 PM
Rather have full modular.

lilaznviper 06-13-2014 02:06 PM
Corsair is a more known brand for power supplies. full modular or semi modular is about the same to me since the plugs that are directly tired into the power supply are the ones you need anyways most of the time.

roastpuff 06-13-2014 02:40 PM
Would rather go with Corsair, Seasonic, Antec - they are the more known brands.

The one that inv4zn is selling is a good one, but not modular. Nothing wrong with non-modular (I have an old PCP&C 750W one that's not modular either), just that cable management will be a little bit more work.

ceeteezy 06-13-2014 02:46 PM
Spoiler!


Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions/recommendations for this motherboard, http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-...84040-1068.htm for the build above^?

roastpuff 06-13-2014 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by christruong (Post 8486833)
Spoiler!


Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions/recommendations for this motherboard, http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-...84040-1068.htm for the build above^?
Perfectly fine motherboard. I just used it in a build for my brother not too long ago. I like Gigabyte Mobo's a lot.

Mr.HappySilp 06-13-2014 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8486783)
The biggest thing is to be sure you're properly protecting everything from static and take your time.
grounding yourself is important. NEVER EVER WORK ON THE CARPET!!!!

ceeteezy 06-13-2014 03:12 PM
Spoiler!


How do you determine whether you need additional fans or not for this build^ or is that covered by the fans included with the case?

Mr.HappySilp 06-13-2014 03:33 PM
Your case should tell you. Generally speaking if you are using your computer for just say surfing the Internet, youtube, Netflix..... you don't really need extra fans or aftermarket cooler. Having extra fan is always good idea.

If you are gaming and plan to OC your CPU and Video card, RAM then it is a must to have extra fans and aftermarket CPU cooler. Usually you have the front of the case to have air coming in (intake) and back of the case have air coming out.

Some case also have fans at the top to blow hot air out. For my I have 2 fans at the front as in take, one at the back and 2 on top as exhaust. There is also enough room on the buttom of my case for the PUS fan to bring in more air.

underscore 06-13-2014 10:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8486838)
grounding yourself is important. NEVER EVER WORK ON THE CARPET!!!!
Or anything soft for that matter. Hard surfaces, ground yourself out ever so often or wear a static strap. Don't permanently ground yourself directly or you could fry components, static straps have a resistance in them to slowly bleed off any static that may occur without damaging anything.

BrRsn 06-13-2014 11:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by christruong (Post 8486852)
Spoiler!


How do you determine whether you need additional fans or not for this build^ or is that covered by the fans included with the case?
Since you do have the unlocked i5, why not get a decent air cooler / water cooler and overclock? I have the same CPU and mine overclocked to 4.6 ghz on nearly-stock volts. Game performance was decent at stock, but I noticed a pretty big jump in some games by overclocking. The case will usually come with 2-3 fans with space for more, it's up to you to add them if you want to

ceeteezy 06-13-2014 11:36 PM
Windows 7 or 8? Discuss..

ceeteezy 06-13-2014 11:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8486783)
The biggest thing is to be sure you're properly protecting everything from static and take your time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8486838)
grounding yourself is important. NEVER EVER WORK ON THE CARPET!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8487097)
Or anything soft for that matter. Hard surfaces, ground yourself out ever so often or wear a static strap. Don't permanently ground yourself directly or you could fry components, static straps have a resistance in them to slowly bleed off any static that may occur without damaging anything.
Hows working on wood flooring?

ceeteezy 06-13-2014 11:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhillon09 (Post 8487116)
Since you do have the unlocked i5, why not get a decent air cooler / water cooler and overclock? I have the same CPU and mine overclocked to 4.6 ghz on nearly-stock volts. Game performance was decent at stock, but I noticed a pretty big jump in some games by overclocking. The case will usually come with 2-3 fans with space for more, it's up to you to add them if you want to
is a CPU aircooler/water cooler a must if you decide to overclock or is the stock heatsink enough for an overclocked CPU?

SoNaRWaVe 06-14-2014 12:31 AM
i would not suggest using stock heatsink for an overclock CPU. get additional cooling.

underscore 06-14-2014 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by christruong (Post 8487120)
Hows working on wood flooring?
Pretty good, maybe wipe it down with a damp cloth and let it air dry first to be sure there's no static on it.

twitchyzero 06-14-2014 07:28 PM
kinect officially coming to windows...think any game devs will use it for tracking?

Kinect v2 comes to the PC on July 15 for $199 | Ars Technica

maybe i can find used ones for $50

nm didn't realize how bulky they were...wow

SkinnyPupp 06-14-2014 07:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8487475)
kinect officially coming to windows...think any game devs will use it for tracking?

Kinect v2 comes to the PC on July 15 for $199 | Ars Technica

maybe i can find used ones for $50

nm didn't realize how bulky they were...wow
If it can't be used right up close for head tracking, I don't see how it will be of much use for PC gaming. Other PC applications, sure

jerche 06-16-2014 11:31 PM
So I am planning to do my first build. Been using Macbooks for the past 6 years and I feel it is time to get a proper desktop that I can play some games on. My question is, when is the 'best time' to purchase parts? Christmas? I am planning a trip to Asia in the fall, is it cheaper there? Should I purchase the motherboard, graphics card, processor there?

I also understand technology is always evolving so prices will depreciate in price quite a bit? Should I purchase last year's model and save some money? Any advice would be appreciated. TIA


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