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bobola 06-17-2014 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerche (Post 8488814)
So I am planning to do my first build. Been using Macbooks for the past 6 years and I feel it is time to get a proper desktop that I can play some games on. My question is, when is the 'best time' to purchase parts? Christmas? I am planning a trip to Asia in the fall, is it cheaper there? Should I purchase the motherboard, graphics card, processor there?

I also understand technology is always evolving so prices will depreciate in price quite a bit? Should I purchase last year's model and save some money? Any advice would be appreciated. TIA

"Best time" is any sales time! Black Friday!Boxing day!
Not sure if it is much cheaper in Asia, but you have to think about warranty issues.

It really depends on you.
What your budget? What games do you plan to play? Do you need to play in 1440p or are you sticking with 1080 resolution?

Choose a budget and work from there!

Mr.HappySilp 06-17-2014 11:53 AM

Using window 8.1. Personally I feel Windows 8.1 is a bit faster than Windows 7 (could be with the newer hardware). It doesn't bug in all the much since it boots into desktop mode and I always install an app that brings back the start menu. It also seems cheaper to purchase Win8 than Win7.

In terms of buying parts, I just buy each part when it is on sale and try to price match. I think local would be better because of warrantly issue.

R1CED` 06-17-2014 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerche (Post 8488814)
So I am planning to do my first build. Been using Macbooks for the past 6 years and I feel it is time to get a proper desktop that I can play some games on. My question is, when is the 'best time' to purchase parts? Christmas? I am planning a trip to Asia in the fall, is it cheaper there? Should I purchase the motherboard, graphics card, processor there?

I also understand technology is always evolving so prices will depreciate in price quite a bit? Should I purchase last year's model and save some money? Any advice would be appreciated. TIA

i wouldnt buy stuff in asia...it really doesn't get better than local/US prices
no point buying last year's model even if the newly released hardware is last year's refresh unless there's clearance pricing at a deep discount

Acura604 06-20-2014 09:36 PM

Not really upgrading but cleaning.

Noticed the qosmio x500 heats up in cpu intensive
Gaming.

Took it apart and wow , frickin dust city ! Gonna dust it out
with compressed air but don't think I can trust myself to reapply
thermal paste on the cpu.

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/3433/cxl3.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/9617/pex7t.jpg

twitchyzero 06-30-2014 08:37 PM

them koreans really know how to make flash memory...stacked transistors FTW :sweetjesus:
AnandTech | Samsung SSD 850 Pro (128GB, 256GB & 1TB) Review: Enter the 3D Era

z3german 07-03-2014 09:47 PM

Friend building me a new computer, anyone have any input? This gonna be my first build, only thing i have thats going into it is an ssd.

Intel Core i5 4670K Unlocked Quad Core 3.4GHZ Processor LGA1150 Haswell 6MB Cache Retail

ASUS H97-PLUS ATX DDR3 Motherboard LGA1150 ATX 1 X LAN HDMI/DVI/VGA Cfx

Corsair Vengeance Heatspreader CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9 16GB 2X8GB DDR3-1600 CL9 Dual Channel Memory Kit

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM

MSI GeForce GTX 760 OC Twin Frozr IV 1085/1150MHZ 2GB GDDR5 2x DVI HDMI DP PCI-E 3.0 Video Card

Corsair CX Series CX500M 500W ATX 12V 80 Plus Bronze Modular Power Supply

NZXT Phantom 410 ATX Steel Computer Case

Scythe KAZE-JYUNI Slip Stream Slim 120mm 12MM Cooling Fan 1600RPM 28.8DB 38CFM

~$1200-$1300

StylinRed 07-04-2014 06:50 PM

Whats a good 4K monitor?
seems like NCIX only has 2? an asus and a samsung any others? which of the two would be the better choice?

im just looking to upgrade the monitor mines fine but id like something new either 3D or 4K and figure may as well go for 4K or if possible 4K 3D :D


edit: nevermind did some research, affordable ones seem to suck PQ wise compared with my 1080p one right now... and a good one is way too expensive for the size... may as well just use my tv

SoNaRWaVe 07-04-2014 10:23 PM

quick question, right now i have 2x 4gb ram in slots 1 and 3. the 2 sticks are of same spec/brand so i am utilizing dual channel.

if i want to utilize slots 2 and 4 with another 2x 4gb ram, do they have to be the same spec/brand as the ones i'm using in slot 1 and 2? or only the ones going into slot 2 and 4 have to be the same spec/brand (for another dual channel)?

hopefully that makes sense.

BrRsn 07-04-2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoNaRWaVe (Post 8498097)
quick question, right now i have 2x 4gb ram in slots 1 and 3. the 2 sticks are of same spec/brand so i am utilizing dual channel.

if i want to utilize slots 2 and 4 with another 2x 4gb ram, do they have to be the same spec/brand as the ones i'm using in slot 1 and 2? or only the ones going into slot 2 and 4 have to be the same spec/brand (for another dual channel)?

hopefully that makes sense.

What motherboard?

I know the ASUS ROG boards are pretty good with handling mismatched ram, but other motherboards can be pretty picky. If you're overclocking that could cause problems too

ceeteezy 07-05-2014 12:10 AM

Hey guys,
I was wondering how mail-in-rebates work? is it a bad idea to submit the mail in rebates before i finish building my pc? one of the mail-in-rebates say i need to submit the "serial number label cut from the retail box" is that normal and should is that a concern for warranty or refund issues? Thanks.

SoNaRWaVe 07-05-2014 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhillon09 (Post 8498100)
What motherboard?

I know the ASUS ROG boards are pretty good with handling mismatched ram, but other motherboards can be pretty picky. If you're overclocking that could cause problems too

i have the ASRock Z77 Extreme4

twitchyzero 07-05-2014 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8498011)
Whats a good 4K monitor?
seems like NCIX only has 2? an asus and a samsung any others? which of the two would be the better choice?

im just looking to upgrade the monitor mines fine but id like something new either 3D or 4K and figure may as well go for 4K or if possible 4K 3D :D


edit: nevermind did some research, affordable ones seem to suck PQ wise compared with my 1080p one right now... and a good one is way too expensive for the size... may as well just use my tv

seiki 39" 4K for $300 USD or 50" for $500 USD...30Hz doe

i might be in the market for a new tv soon and might just get that for FHD/120Hz...that way i can still run UHD/24p?

SkinnyPupp 07-05-2014 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8498011)
Whats a good 4K monitor?
seems like NCIX only has 2? an asus and a samsung any others? which of the two would be the better choice?

im just looking to upgrade the monitor mines fine but id like something new either 3D or 4K and figure may as well go for 4K or if possible 4K 3D :D


edit: nevermind did some research, affordable ones seem to suck PQ wise compared with my 1080p one right now... and a good one is way too expensive for the size... may as well just use my tv

By the time 4K is worth buying for a reasonable price, the true next gen format will be out (8K)

lilaznviper 07-05-2014 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoNaRWaVe (Post 8498097)
quick question, right now i have 2x 4gb ram in slots 1 and 3. the 2 sticks are of same spec/brand so i am utilizing dual channel.

if i want to utilize slots 2 and 4 with another 2x 4gb ram, do they have to be the same spec/brand as the ones i'm using in slot 1 and 2? or only the ones going into slot 2 and 4 have to be the same spec/brand (for another dual channel)?

hopefully that makes sense.

usually you want the same spec and brand but if you can't atleast try to get the same spec as your first set.

StylinRed 07-05-2014 02:59 PM

I was interested in 4K gaming but I didnt think a suitable desktop 4k monitor would cost almost the same as a 4k tv that's twice its size :/

the 700$ 4k screens i read are TN panels with crappy PQ :/

knight604 07-05-2014 04:22 PM

My friend has a 700-1000 budget for a computer , anyone got time to put one together?

Manic! 07-05-2014 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight604 (Post 8498335)
My friend has a 700-1000 budget for a computer , anyone got time to put one together?

Whats he using it for?

amusegt1 07-05-2014 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8498306)
I was interested in 4K gaming but I didnt think a suitable desktop 4k monitor would cost almost the same as a 4k tv that's twice its size :/

the 700$ 4k screens i read are TN panels with crappy PQ :/

Im using the Samsung U28D590 right now. IMO, the PQ is OK. It's obviously no IPS panel, but it's not terrible.
I use it mostly for gaming and it does the job fine. Though I am only running 2560x1440 on most games. My GTX680 SLI doesn't have quite enough power to output 4K. Im waiting to grab a couple of GTX 880's later this year :P
However, once you see actual 4K content on a 4K screen, it's just mind-blowing. It makes 1080P look like SD lol

knight604 07-05-2014 09:38 PM

Gaming.

twitchyzero 07-06-2014 01:14 PM

SSDs are so cheap right now...but RAM so expansif

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight604 (Post 8498440)
Gaming.

which resolution, what games.

knight604 07-06-2014 01:45 PM

Mmm 1080p? The best that he can? I don't know what games he wants to play because his current computer can not even play cs 1.6

twitchyzero 07-06-2014 03:12 PM

not sure if 4770S is same as 4770...but if he wont overclock this is nice
all american deals...works out to $1K CAD

ASUS M11AD-US012S Desktop PC Intel Core i7 4770S (3.10GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB HDD Windows 8 - Newegg.com
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electr...ds=MZ-7TE250BW

underscore 07-06-2014 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight604 (Post 8498665)
Mmm 1080p? The best that he can? I don't know what games he wants to play because his current computer can not even play cs 1.6

Figure out what kind of stuff he wants to play, if it turns out he doesn't need anything heavy duty it might be better to save the cash for future upgrades.

knight604 07-06-2014 11:08 PM

I was thinking a
i5 non overclockable one haswell
haswell motherboard
760 GTX
128/256gb ssd + already have own harddrive
600 watt psu
8gb ram
cheapo case

He say he wants to play any new games he can get his hands on so like watchdogs titanfall and alien isolation

SoNaRWaVe 07-07-2014 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilaznviper (Post 8498255)
usually you want the same spec and brand but if you can't atleast try to get the same spec as your first set.

i hope the following part makes sense. i am not sure how dual channel works.

lets say the second set specs are different than the first set. but the second set (2 sticks) have the same spec. will the 2 sets still run in dual channel?

if all 4 sticks are the same spec and brand, does that run faster than 2 different sets?


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