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bobola 10-06-2014 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeknerd (Post 8539541)
will i5 4670k haswell bottleneck a gtx980?

friend is building a comp for the first time and is not too tech savy, as am i.

nzxt 410 case
mobo recommend?
i5 4670k
16gb 1600 rip jaw. is 32gb overkill?
h100i cooler
samsung 840 evo series
WD RE4 1TB
Corsair HX850W
Geforce 980

if you reply to me, plz thank or fail me so it notifies me that you replied. thanks.

It really depends on the game your playing.
RTS game tend to be more CPU heavy while FPS or similar games require more GPU powa.

The i5 is plenty enough for gaming.
Dont worry about it!

geeknerd 10-06-2014 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobola (Post 8539546)
It really depends on the game your playing.
RTS game tend to be more CPU heavy while FPS or similar games require more GPU powa.

The i5 is plenty enough for gaming.
Dont worry about it!

my friend plays WOW. he was thinking of going i7 + 780 but changed his mind to i5 + 980.

twitchyzero 10-06-2014 06:25 PM

i5's won't bottleneck gtx 980

as long as you aren't trying to have couple hundred NPCs on screen it's fine

Is he ever planning to go multi-GPU? If not I would get a 600W PSU + GTX 970 and allocated the money saved towards an i7

Razor Ramon HG 10-06-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeknerd (Post 8539541)
will i5 4670k haswell bottleneck a gtx980?

friend is building a comp for the first time and is not too tech savy, as am i.

nzxt 410 case
mobo recommend?
i5 4670k
16gb 1600 rip jaw. is 32gb overkill?
h100i cooler
samsung 840 evo series
WD RE4 1TB
Corsair HX850W
Geforce 980

if you reply to me, plz thank or fail me so it notifies me that you replied. thanks.

Here's my build with a few changes.

NZXT Source 340
Intel i5-4690K
ASUS Z97-A Motherboard
Corsair H100i Cooler
16GB Kingston HyperX Black
Samsung 840 Evo
Western Digital Black
Seasonic G-750 PSU (not the S12G)
ASUS STRIX GTX 970

The NZXT Source 340 is the latest case from NZXT and it looks amazing for $80. It'll also be super easy to do cable management in this case.

The Z97-A is one of ASUS' middle class boards in their mainstream lineup. Better components for overclocking, and supports SLI/Crossfire.

16GB of RAM is fine. I wouldn't recommend buying more at this point in time since DDR3 is so expensive. 32GB is only necessary if he needs it for workstation purposes. If your friend wants to save some cash, 8GB is actually more than enough for a gaming computer.

Samsung 840 EVO is a good choice for a system drive. Just make sure you update the firmware on it to fix a critical file seeking issue when it comes out next week. But I would skip the Western Digital RE4 though and get the regular Black one. The RE4 is intended for RAID setups and therefore cost more.

Seasonic PSUs are the best in the industry. Top components, super reliable, and extremely efficient. The fan in the PSU only comes on during intense loads, but I've never heard mine even spin up. I selected the 750W version since it would allow your friend to SLI in the future if he really wanted to, otherwise just get the 550W version at half the price.

Forget about the GTX 980. The 970 is the best high-end value card at the moment. It's half the price of the 980 while being only a bit slower. It's the perfect card for 1080p gaming. The ASUS STRIX variant will look the best with your motherboard.

Example of a computer using the same case - http://imgur.com/a/TztA6 - easy to replicate the look too.

geeknerd 10-06-2014 07:52 PM

thanks for the advice guys and ty for detailed response razor. it will definitely help my friend.

The_Situation 10-06-2014 10:27 PM

Anyone know if patriot is a decent brand for SSD's?

http://www.ncix.com/detail/patriot-p...02494-1310.htm

From what I can see, it has faster read and write speeds than the samsung evo

Razor Ramon HG 10-07-2014 07:45 PM

For $70, that's a good purchase.

asian_XL 10-07-2014 08:36 PM

finally, the GTX970 can officially replace my 4yrs old HD6850.
unfortunately I do not see a big improvment on 4K gaming, which means it will probably not last for another 4yrs.

willystyle 10-09-2014 08:14 PM

Just upgraded to a new SSD (Crucial MX100 256GB), applications load so fast, it's like buying a new computer.

twitchyzero 10-09-2014 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willystyle (Post 8541314)
Just upgraded to a new SSD (Crucial MX100 256GB), applications load so fast, it's like buying a new computer.

is your mobo SATA-II or III? I've others ask me what's the best upgrade to their old computer and it's almost always the SSD...but I dont know how significant it is with older SATA standards

Purely 10-09-2014 09:46 PM

Any SSD deals right now?

bobola 10-10-2014 12:25 AM

Those who went from 1080 to 1440 for gaming, is it a day and night difference in quality?

Wanting to get a new monitor for a while.
Not sure if I should pick up a 1080 144hz or a 1440 monitor.

Will be picking up a gtx 970 to power it!

willystyle 10-10-2014 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8541337)
is your mobo SATA-II or III? I've others ask me what's the best upgrade to their old computer and it's almost always the SSD...but I dont know how significant it is with older SATA standards

I'm using SATAII and it's still a VERY NOTICEABLE difference. It's worth the upgrade. Trust me. The boot time alone is worth it. Takes about 10 seconds for me to boot up from the push of a button to all of my programs loaded.

You need to read this. 6gbps SATA is SATA III (in case you're wondering).

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...gbps,3110.html

willystyle 10-10-2014 03:49 PM

SSD Results
 
1 Attachment(s)
Does this look OK for SATA II on Windows 8.1? Yes TRIM is enabled.

Razor Ramon HG 10-10-2014 04:41 PM

If your computer feels snappy, then it's fine.

Running a SATA3 SSD on a SATA2 controller will only bottleneck the sequential reads and writes. Everything else such as random reads and writes will be the same as running it on a SATA3 controller.

ImportPsycho 10-12-2014 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeknerd (Post 8539541)
will i5 4670k haswell bottleneck a gtx980?

friend is building a comp for the first time and is not too tech savy, as am i.

nzxt 410 case
mobo recommend?
i5 4670k
16gb 1600 rip jaw. is 32gb overkill?
h100i cooler
samsung 840 evo series
WD RE4 1TB
Corsair HX850W
Geforce 980

if you reply to me, plz thank or fail me so it notifies me that you replied. thanks.

this build makes no sense to me
how about instead of $100 watercooler, buy i7 and cheapo air cooler or even stock? should be cheaper or same as 4670+h100i
it's cheaper to upgrade cooler than upgrade cpu
RE4 drive? in non raid desktop box? why? unless he's already got one lying around...

G-spec 10-13-2014 09:17 AM

is there any 4k monitors around 30 inches big with 60hz refresh @ 4k ?

DragonChi 10-13-2014 10:06 AM

http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-u...d-c5-95635.htm

The_Situation 10-13-2014 01:13 PM

I thought cyber monday was today. I've been waiting for weeks :failed:

G-spec 10-14-2014 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8542861)


awesome, I don't know how I missed that.... thanks

kayceeee 10-16-2014 09:53 AM

I'm currently using a MacBook rght now and looking to get a desktop. Friend has suggested building one rather than buying from big box stores.

Looking to do some casual gaming mostly sports games such as nhl nba etc.

How much would I be looking at for a build that will be good for that. (Will need monitor keyboard n mouse etc)

Thanks

roastpuff 10-16-2014 01:00 PM

Probably around $700-800 for one that will last for a couple of years.

But for casual/sports gaming, consoles work much better. Something like a XB1 or PS4 would work much better. It would also last a lot longer, and provide a media hub for your living room.

PC's are great for RPG/RTS/FPS but not so much sports games.

kayceeee 10-16-2014 03:35 PM

Is it better in terms of quality and graphics and performance? Or just the overall experience? I don't plan on playing a lot of online gaming but I feel like a desktop would do me better rather than just a console which will strictly be for gaming

Razor Ramon HG 10-16-2014 04:38 PM

Better in terms of everything although you won't have to worry about whether or not your PC will run a new game well down the road if you get a console.

If you want, we can post a build log here for you with parts and pricing.

kayceeee 10-16-2014 06:19 PM

if you can that'd be great!

i think just for my own use a PC would be better since im not a hardcore gamer and wont be gaming every day, but at least i can still use it for other purposes since my mac is a couple years old now.

if i can keep it under 1000 that would be awesome, i dont need those crazy fancy keyboard mouse combos, but i will need a monitor.


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