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knight604 08-04-2015 09:22 AM

I think it's been lower?

trd2343 08-04-2015 09:56 PM

I just built a new computer and was wondering what idle temps people are getting locally (ambient temperature).

CPU: i4790k
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A
Cooler: Hyper EVO (one fan pull)
Case: Fractal R4 (one intake one exhaust)
Idle: 37-38C

Is this considered acceptable range for the cooler?

Razor Ramon HG 08-04-2015 10:05 PM

Yeah, that's about the same as my 4790K with a CM Nepton 240M (although I have it at 1.12v/4.2GHz)

But in the grand scheme of things, idle temperatures are not as important as load. Use Prime95 26.6 and post your temperatures. You'll want something around 80 and under.

trd2343 08-04-2015 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 8667464)
Yeah, that's about the same as my 4790K with a CM Nepton 240M (although I have it at 1.12v/4.2GHz)

But in the grand scheme of things, idle temperatures are not as important as load. Use Prime95 26.6 and post your temperatures. You'll want something around 80 and under.

I left fan speed to default on motherboard settings. I'll run it tomorrow and post temps. Thanks.

Verdasco 08-05-2015 08:42 PM

how good is this deal?? $300 for i5 2500k, corsair dominator GT 8gb 1866mhz, asus maximus gene IV

optional $50 for intel 120gb 520 ssd

i have zero clue what the prices of these are since I have not updated myself with computer parts since i was in high school....

also will 550w handle all that with a video card??? what video card would work??? I just want to play cs:go and netflix lol. should i even get the SSD?

Razor Ramon HG 08-05-2015 09:02 PM

It'd be okay at around 250. Good deal at $200. $300 would skip.

That's my personal opinion.

If you want to play CS:GO and Netflix, I would personally just do a build around the G3258 and upgrade it down the road if needed.

knight604 08-05-2015 09:08 PM

skylake processors are all on back order :(

dyan 08-05-2015 09:22 PM

in case someones building a new pc.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/70362...ower-case.html

I'm open to all offers. :D

Verdasco 08-05-2015 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 8667815)
It'd be okay at around 250. Good deal at $200. $300 would skip.

That's my personal opinion.

If you want to play CS:GO and Netflix, I would personally just do a build around the G3258 and upgrade it down the road if needed.

what can i get on ncix or memory express for $350? mobo/ram/ssd/cpu?

edit: im not getting a dual core g3258 lol. been using a dual core for way way too long. never again. cs go is way too cpu dependant , dual core isnt enough

Razor Ramon HG 08-05-2015 09:35 PM

G3258 @ 4.0GHz (the standard OC achievable on most) is more than enough for CS:GO.. trust me. ;)

I'll give a part list for $350 in a bit.

EDIT: For $350, you can't beat this - http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/wk2KTW

The SSD is $80 because of my shameless plug as I'm selling it on the B&S :lol

The package you linked earlier would be worth it at $250, but I'd be slightly hesitant buying hardware that's four years old

Verdasco 08-05-2015 10:34 PM

thx for suggestions but a microATX and dual core... cant see it competing vs a maximus gene IV and i5 cpu

Razor Ramon HG 08-05-2015 11:16 PM

You're correct that the i5-2500K is going to beat the G3258 in raw performance, but considering you're just going to be playing CS:GO and Netflix, I just wouldn't recommend investing into a Z68/SB platform at this stage in its life.

I guess at $250 it's worth the thought, but at $300, meh. I'd personally rather get something more current with a better upgrade path down the road.

$350 gets you a G3258, a B85M motherboard, 8GB DDR3, an aftermarket heatsink, and an SSD. Down the road, all you need to do is slap in a better CPU since you can reuse every other part.

But if the 2500K or the motherboard dies, you're going to have to have to replace it with another randomly used part. Sandy Bridge is three generations old and LGA1155 motherboards are almost completely phased out from retailers.

The G3258 is no pushover either when overclocked. I pushed mine to 4.5GHz and it had the same single thread performance as an i7-4790K!

As my 2c, I would just suggest you think about it a bit more thoroughly.

Verdasco 08-08-2015 02:12 PM

yes, i am thinking of just getting current new generation products and invest that, most likely a quad core! thanks for your help

Vansterdam 08-13-2015 05:03 PM

Wow, Samsung's New 16 Terabyte SSD Is the World's Largest Hard Drive

Samsungs 16TB SSD :eek2:

Gone are the days when you have to sacrifice size for speed with an SSD drive in your laptop. At the Flash Memory Summit in California, Samsung just revealed a new 2.5-inch SSD drive with an incredible 16 terabytes of storage. It’s not only the world’s largest SSD—it’s actually now the world’s largest hard drive, period.

So how on Earth did Samsung pull off a such an incredible feat? Inside the PM1633a SSD you’ll find stacks and stacks of the company’s latest and greatest 256Gbit NAND flash dies, which are twice the capacity of the 128Gbit NAND flash dies currently in use. According to Ars Technica’s calculations, there should be somewhere around 480 to 500 of the dies inside Samsung’s new SSD. Which is even more impressive given it still fits inside a 2.5-inch housing, although it’s probably a lot taller than most.

The answer to the million dollar question about the new 16TB SSD—how much does it cost?—is thankfully not a million dollars. However, the first units will probably sell in the range of $5,000 to $7,000 and will be targeted for use in servers and other enterprise applications. But over time, as with all technology, the massive SSDs will certainly drop in price and trickle down to consumers—just in time for our storage demands spiking thanks to 4K movie downloads.

StylinRed 08-13-2015 09:08 PM

Cant wait for the price to drop on that! Around $1000 and I'm sold... that'll probably take a few years

knight604 08-13-2015 10:19 PM

Samsung 850 EVO MZ 75E250B AM 2 5" 250GB Sata III 3 D Vertical Internal Solid ST | eBay

bought one for gf's laptop

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2015 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vansterdam (Post 8670552)
Wow, Samsung's New 16 Terabyte SSD Is the World's Largest Hard Drive

Samsungs 16TB SSD :eek2:

Gone are the days when you have to sacrifice size for speed with an SSD drive in your laptop. At the Flash Memory Summit in California, Samsung just revealed a new 2.5-inch SSD drive with an incredible 16 terabytes of storage. It’s not only the world’s largest SSD—it’s actually now the world’s largest hard drive, period.

So how on Earth did Samsung pull off a such an incredible feat? Inside the PM1633a SSD you’ll find stacks and stacks of the company’s latest and greatest 256Gbit NAND flash dies, which are twice the capacity of the 128Gbit NAND flash dies currently in use. According to Ars Technica’s calculations, there should be somewhere around 480 to 500 of the dies inside Samsung’s new SSD. Which is even more impressive given it still fits inside a 2.5-inch housing, although it’s probably a lot taller than most.

The answer to the million dollar question about the new 16TB SSD—how much does it cost?—is thankfully not a million dollars. However, the first units will probably sell in the range of $5,000 to $7,000 and will be targeted for use in servers and other enterprise applications. But over time, as with all technology, the massive SSDs will certainly drop in price and trickle down to consumers—just in time for our storage demands spiking thanks to 4K movie downloads.

You'd be insane to trust a Samsung SSD with that much data.

twitchyzero 08-13-2015 11:30 PM

meh, traditional spinner or flash...always have back-up
although dont always practice what i preach *knocks on wood*

trd2343 08-15-2015 04:29 PM

If I just need a desktop for word processing and surfing the web, am I better off just buying it prebuilt? If so, any brand I should go for or avoid?

edit:
What I mean by better off is cost vs performance. Say for example, I may get better performance if I build it myself, but it may end up costing more, and if I can't make use of what the computer is capable of, it feels like I've wasted money on it.

Manic! 08-15-2015 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reamemiya (Post 8671114)
If I just need a desktop for word processing and surfing the web, am I better off just buying it prebuilt? If so, any brand I should go for or avoid?

edit:
What I mean by better off is cost vs performance. Say for example, I may get better performance if I build it myself, but it may end up costing more, and if I can't make use of what the computer is capable of, it feels like I've wasted money on it.

Core i5-4440S, 4GB RAM, 1TB HDD, HD4600, DVDRW, Windows 7 Home Premium (M11AD-US002O) (Refurbished) - NMicroVIP

You will not be able to build a comp that cheap. It's a refurb but I picked up a computer from them last week (different model) and the quality was great.

asian_XL 08-15-2015 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8670686)
You'd be insane to trust a Samsung SSD with that much data.

My 840Pro is so unreliable, my Win8.1 keeps crashing every 2 months and I need to reinstall the whole windows. Will not get another samsung again.

SkinnyPupp 08-15-2015 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asian_XL (Post 8671188)
My 840Pro is so unreliable, my Win8.1 keeps crashing every 2 months and I need to reinstall the whole windows. Will not get another samsung again.

Samsung SSDs are garbage, I would never recommend them

They have a great reputation because they are cheap and do well in quick tests that most hardware sites and forum posters do

UnDeadMage 08-16-2015 10:11 PM

Hey guys. My old desktop finally crapped out on me after 6 years. Im in the market for a new tower to replace my current one. Im basically just looking for a prebuilt tower under 1k. I just want to be able to play any blizzard game on high graphics. Any suggestions as to which tower i should get?

heisenberg 08-16-2015 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnDeadMage (Post 8671443)
Hey guys. My old desktop finally crapped out on me after 6 years. Im in the market for a new tower to replace my current one. Im basically just looking for a prebuilt tower under 1k. I just want to be able to play any blizzard game on high graphics. Any suggestions as to which tower i should get?

NCIX PC Explorer R3 Tier 2 Core i3 4170 GTX 750 Ti 8GB 1TB SSHD 24X DVDRW Win 10 Gaming PC - NCIXPC-Explorer-R3-T2

that should do, you can up to the next one if you want

NCIX PC Explorer R3 Tier 3 Core i5 4460 GTX 960 8GB 1TB SSHD 24X DVDRW Win 10 Gaming PC - NCIXPC-Explorer-R3-T3

its like an extra 100 though.

Manic! 08-17-2015 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnDeadMage (Post 8671443)
Hey guys. My old desktop finally crapped out on me after 6 years. Im in the market for a new tower to replace my current one. Im basically just looking for a prebuilt tower under 1k. I just want to be able to play any blizzard game on high graphics. Any suggestions as to which tower i should get?


AMD FX8300 16GB RAM, 2TB HDD, Radeon HD8570 2GB, DVDRW, Windows 8 (M51BC-CA001S) (Refurbished) - NMicroVIP


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