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09-06-2016, 08:05 AM
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#4576 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero  because a good monitor like a good video card will cost you
really depends on what games you play...if it's mostly fps then sure 120hz+ would be nice
i value image quality so better colour reproduction is more important to me...play counter-strike on 60hz just fine | you are saying you value image quality but state 60hz is fine for cs go, it is not fine lol. there is a big noticeable difference.... did a side by side test with 10 people and it was easily distinguished
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Originally Posted by dhillon09 that's a great secret date spot,
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09-06-2016, 08:35 AM
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image quality not motion
120hz+ will be noticeably better for motion but you can still be competitive at cs on a 60Hz monitor with the right settings capping fps/vsync off, don't remember exact settings as I haven't played it in a year or so https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffen...gh_for_a_60hz/
I'm one of those people who thinks 24/30p is more cinematic  ...I don't like the soap-drama effect. Probably wont buy an LCD TV again for that reason and will hang onto my plasma | |
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09-06-2016, 08:51 AM
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#4578 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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you dont see yourself contradicting yourself here?
you said you value image quality but state 60hz is fine compared to 120hz which is a big no no. There is a difference in image quality, not just motion.
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Even without blur, you might notice choppiness or "tearing" (the effect of part of the image seeming to hang behind what's on the rest of the screen for a moment). This is especially noticeable in sports and video games, or any content that has a lot of fast, horizontal panning of the camera. For this, higher refresh rate modes can help.
| HDTV Refresh Rates Explained: 60Hz, 120Hz, and Beyond | PCMag.com
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Can someone tell good or unusual dating spots? Or what was your the most unusual date? THanks for sharing!
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp my bedroom =D | Quote:
Originally Posted by dhillon09 that's a great secret date spot,
i bet no girl in vancouver has seen it. | | |
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09-06-2016, 10:05 PM
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#4579 | | ESKETIT
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Originally Posted by Araaadi Looking to eventually build a gaming pc, but currently just looking for a monitor to use with my mac that is also futureproof for gaming. Looking to spend $300, maybe up to $400 if its worth it. So far the two that kinda stand out to me is Benq xl2411z or the Benq rl2755hm. Any other suggestions? I heard getting atleast 1440p and 144hz is best but cant find anything in my price range. | I have the Asus VG248QE and its pretty awesome. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...onitor-vg248qe
looking to upgrade to either the ASUS PG279Q http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-pg27...-2b-119675.htm
or ASUS PG278Q http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-pg27...-e5-100910.htm
which one would you guys pick? I like that the 278Q is 1MS but it dosent have HDMI.
while the 279Q is 165hz vs 144hz , its 4ms vs 1ms .. but does have the hdmi option.
looking to use for gaming.
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09-06-2016, 10:25 PM
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image quality pertains to the image and the image alone when assessed frame-by-frame. Colour, viewing angles, contrast, resolution.
motion is a totally different beast in which i've already agreed with you.
we're just not on the same page in terms of semantics..that's all
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09-07-2016, 07:39 AM
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#4581 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Originally Posted by Vansterdam | I would go with the 279Q just because it's IPS.
I switched from an IPS 60hz monitor to a TN 144hz monitor, and the true color difference is unreal.  I've put-up with it for a while now until I can get my hands on an IPS 120hz+ monitor.
Honestly, the color positive difference of an IPS is an acceptable trade off for the response time and refresh rate.
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09-07-2016, 10:39 AM
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#4582 | | das not it mane
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Does monitor refresh rate affect input lag like shots not registering?
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09-07-2016, 10:53 AM
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#4583 | | I don't like cheese but I love milk!
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Looking to build a new PC, and reusing some old parts.
Trying to decide between mATX and ITX.
What's everyone opinion on a itx semi-gaming PC?
Am i sacrificing anything by going ITX vs mATX?
I honestly don't feel like I need any of the PCI slot (What do people use PCI slot for anyway?)
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CPU: i7-6700K
MOBO: Z170M-PLUS(matx) or MSI Z170I Gaming Pro AC.
Ram: 2x8GB
HD: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB
Vid: EVGA GTX 960
Case: Corsair AIR 240(mATX) or EVGA Hadron (itx)
no plan to do SLI/Crossfire
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09-07-2016, 11:45 AM
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#4584 | | das not it mane
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Originally Posted by Ferra Looking to build a new PC, and reusing some old parts.
Trying to decide between mATX and ITX.
What's everyone opinion on a itx semi-gaming PC?
Am i sacrificing anything by going ITX vs mATX?
I honestly don't feel like I need any of the PCI slot (What do people use PCI slot for anyway?)
Spec:
CPU: i7-6700K
MOBO: Z170M-PLUS(matx) or MSI Z170I Gaming Pro AC.
Ram: 2x8GB
HD: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB
Vid: EVGA GTX 960
Case: Corsair AIR 240(mATX) or EVGA Hadron (itx)
no plan to do SLI/Crossfire | Don't go for the GTX 960, you can find better at that price range
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09-07-2016, 11:54 AM
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#4585 | | I don't like cheese but I love milk!
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Originally Posted by jonwon Don't go for the GTX 960, you can find better at that price range | It is what I have in my current PC.
Not looking to the upgrade vid card, hence keeping the same card.
essentially I am just getting new cpu, mobo, ram and case.
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09-07-2016, 04:43 PM
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#4586 | | ESKETIT
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Originally Posted by Reeyal I would go with the 279Q just because it's IPS.
I switched from an IPS 60hz monitor to a TN 144hz monitor, and the true color difference is unreal. I've put-up with it for a while now until I can get my hands on an IPS 120hz+ monitor.
Honestly, the color positive difference of an IPS is an acceptable trade off for the response time and refresh rate. | leaning towards this monitor + 1070
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09-07-2016, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jonwon Does monitor refresh rate affect input lag like shots not registering? | that's netcode issues, shouldn't be affected by client side display specifications.
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09-08-2016, 08:31 AM
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#4588 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Originally Posted by Ferra Looking to build a new PC, and reusing some old parts.
Trying to decide between mATX and ITX.
What's everyone opinion on a itx semi-gaming PC?
Am i sacrificing anything by going ITX vs mATX?
I honestly don't feel like I need any of the PCI slot (What do people use PCI slot for anyway?)
Spec:
CPU: i7-6700K
MOBO: Z170M-PLUS(matx) or MSI Z170I Gaming Pro AC.
Ram: 2x8GB
HD: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB
Vid: EVGA GTX 960
Case: Corsair AIR 240(mATX) or EVGA Hadron (itx)
no plan to do SLI/Crossfire | I'm indifferent with the motherboard size (ITX, mATX, ATX, and EATX). I look at the specs. Does it support all PCIe lanes I want for my video card? I have a PCIe SSD as well, so I would look at that support also.
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09-08-2016, 08:32 AM
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#4589 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Originally Posted by Vansterdam leaning towards this monitor + 1070
then sell the 1070 for the 1080 TI when it comes out | I'm eyeing this monitor as well, as soon as I have $1k to drop... 
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09-08-2016, 11:37 AM
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#4590 | | I don't like cheese but I love milk!
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Originally Posted by Reeyal I'm indifferent with the motherboard size (ITX, mATX, ATX, and EATX). I look at the specs. Does it support all PCIe lanes I want for my video card? I have a PCIe SSD as well, so I would look at that support also. | btw...about the U.2/M.2 SSD.
Anyone using them (i.e. Samsung 950 Pro) and got any opinion of them on real world use?
On paper and benchmark they are significantly faster, (500MB/s vs 2000MB/s+)
Just wondering does it actually feel much faster and snappier in real world usage? (Like when you are upgrading from a HDD to SSD)
There are only 2 Z170i mobo I can find - Asus and MSI. Asus Z170i uses U.2, where MSI use M.2. (tho only 65mm fit properly)
Some people say U.2 is more the future for desktop SSD, but U.2 ssd is almost non existent beside intel's super expensive 750 at the moment.
I guess I will stay with cheaper SATA SSD for now, but I want the mobo to be future proof when the new SSD become more common.
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09-08-2016, 12:37 PM
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#4591 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Originally Posted by Ferra btw...about the U.2/M.2 SSD.
Anyone using them (i.e. Samsung 950 Pro) and got any opinion of them on real world use?
On paper and benchmark they are significantly faster, (500MB/s vs 2000MB/s+)
Just wondering does it actually feel much faster and snappier in real world usage? (Like when you are upgrading from a HDD to SSD)
There are only 2 Z170i mobo I can find - Asus and MSI. Asus Z170i uses U.2, where MSI use M.2. (tho only 65mm fit properly)
Some people say U.2 is more the future for desktop SSD, but U.2 ssd is almost non existent beside intel's super expensive 750 at the moment.
I guess I will stay with cheaper SATA SSD for now, but I want the mobo to be future proof when the new SSD become more common. | I've been using PCIe SSD for many years now, even before M.2 was released. I get like 1600 read and 1500 write.
Some M.2 nowadays are faster than a regular SATA3 SSD by trading write for more read speeds. IMO, write is equally important.
Of course, M.2 also uses PCIe lanes/bandwidth.
FYI, after 2000 read and 2000 write, in a consumer environment, you don't feel more of the speed difference as when compared to the HDD to SSD speed jump change. I've used an Intel 5000 read and 3000 write PCIe SSD at work, and it felt like I didn't gain a huge speed bump from a 2000/2000. Although, as soon as I use it in a database environment with many thousands transactions per second, the speed boost is fantastic.
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09-08-2016, 12:41 PM
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#4592 | | I don't like cheese but I love milk!
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Originally Posted by Reeyal I've been using PCIe SSD for many years now, even before M.2 was released. I get like 1600 read and 1500 write.
Some M.2 nowadays are faster than a regular SATA3 SSD by trading write for more read speeds. IMO, write is equally important.
Of course, M.2 also uses PCIe lanes/bandwidth. | all the technical stuffs aside...
does it feel much faster than a regular SSD during everyday use?
(i.e. browsing, gaming, photoshops, etc)
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09-08-2016, 12:54 PM
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#4593 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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i think where the pcie will be faster is when your doing a lot of reads and write at a given time like rendering. other than that for everyday use, its a waste of money. For work, i've seen some improvements from using a pcie m2 over regular 2.5ssd when rendering
for everyday use, just stick with the regular m2 drives or even the 2.5 ssd
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09-09-2016, 06:12 AM
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#4595 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Originally Posted by Vansterdam | That Dell monitor is TN.
Most TN 27" 120Hz+ monitors are around that price point...
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09-09-2016, 06:15 AM
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#4596 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Originally Posted by Ferra all the technical stuffs aside...
does it feel much faster than a regular SSD during everyday use?
(i.e. browsing, gaming, photoshops, etc) | For everyday use, if you find one that is comparative in price, then yes. If not, the gain in performance doesn't out weight the increased in price.
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09-09-2016, 04:41 PM
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#4597 | | ESKETIT
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Originally Posted by Reeyal That Dell monitor is TN.
Most TN 27" 120Hz+ monitors are around that price point... | well the asus one i was eyeing with smilar specs TN was 800 +tax and didnt have HDMI.
figured i save myself $2-400 and use that to buy a 1080 card instead | |
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09-09-2016, 08:18 PM
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#4598 | | Say! Say! Say!
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The Dell will be the cheapest if you are looking for a 27" 1440p 144HZ 1ms monitor with G-SYNC.
You won't find an IPS monitor with faster refresh rate than 4-5ms. And even then, the PG279Q costs well over $1000.
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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic Did I tell you guys black is my favourite colour? My Ridgeline is black. My Honda Fit is black. Wish my dick was black........ LOL. | | |
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09-16-2016, 01:03 PM
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#4599 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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finally received the following products
i5 6500 cpu
Asus H170 PRO
16gb ddr4 ram
Nxzt S340 white case with side panel
Samsung 850 EVO PRO 500gb SSD
550w G2 EVGA power supply ( fucking expensive PSU for 550watts lmao )
going to pair all this tonight with my GTX 970. Need to buy a windows 10 cdkey from kinguin tonight and make my USB bootable to install it :P
edit: ill post some pics when done 
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Can someone tell good or unusual dating spots? Or what was your the most unusual date? THanks for sharing!
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp my bedroom =D | Quote:
Originally Posted by dhillon09 that's a great secret date spot,
i bet no girl in vancouver has seen it. | | |
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09-23-2016, 08:09 AM
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#4600 | | I don't like cheese but I love milk!
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Just did my built yesterday..(last time I built one was 7years ago)
i7-6700k
Noctura NH-C14s
Asus z170i pro gaming itx
16GB ram
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB
Fractal Define Nano S
EVGA GTX 960 (old)
Some question maybe someone can help answer.
1) Case (define nano s) has 2 front USB port coming from 1 header on the mobo.
For some reason, 1 of them is not working. The one on the right works fine, but the one on the left when I plug it in nothing happens. Any idea why?
2) I installed windows 10. The installation was quick and smooth. (Btw, I tried using my old window 7 laptop key but it said invalid, it can still install w/o key tho) W10 seems to have downloaded all my video card, audio drivers etc. Do I still need to download any drivers for my motherboard like back in W7? Or everything automatic now?
3) Is that a way to make W10 feels faster and more "snappy"?? It is not "slow", but it doesn't feel snappy....like when I move windows around, it tries to "slowly smooth out" the transitions...My old PC with W7 actually feels faster when browsing...
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