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Mr.Money 08-08-2017 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threezero (Post 8855497)
complete failed i just realize that.

added a gtx1060 6gb and now the build is over 1500$ =\

that's how much my build is with the 1070 gtx....crazy.

threezero 08-08-2017 11:09 PM

stupid crypto miners driving gpu prices up =\

I did read the reviews, from what i gather most games do not take advantage of the multicore? I'm willing to give ryzen a tried though if its indeed more future proof. is the 1600x worth it over the 1600?

Here, new try at a build:

CPU - AMD RYZEN 5 1600 6-Core 3.2 GHz (3.6 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4

MOTHERBOARD - GIGABYTE GA-AX370-Gaming K3 (rev. 1.0) AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

CASE - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid-Tower Case with DarkMirror Front Panel

PSU - Rosewill ARC Series 550W Modular Gaming Power Supply, 80 PLUS Bronze Certified, Single +12V Rail, Intel 4th Gen CPU **IS THIS COMPATIBLE WITH MY BUILD?**

WIFI CARD - Rosewill RNX-AC1300PCE Wi-Fi Adapter

RAM - G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200)

SSD - SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive

HDD - WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch

GPU - EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB SSC GAMING ACX 3.0, 6GB GDDR5, LED, DX12

comes out to 1622$ without tax and shipping on Newegg WutFace

Any comments on the parts I selected?

twitchyzero 08-08-2017 11:40 PM

dont know if it's 100% legit: win 10 pro is $50 something fulfilled by amazon

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00ZSHDJ4O/...O&linkCode=df0

asian_XL 08-09-2017 12:45 AM

^ Read the comments

Manic! 08-09-2017 10:18 AM

For I would go for something like this: https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...82E16817438124

EVGA makes great power supplies and you CPU/GPU combo will use less than 300 watts.

DragonChi 08-09-2017 10:51 AM

https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic...-list-updated/

Razor Ramon HG 08-09-2017 11:44 AM

With Ryzen, you want at least 3000MHz RAM as the Infinity Fabric relies heavily on that. No need for the X. Most R5s should OC to at least 3.8GHz on even the shittiest boards.

BTW, I am doing a case swap from mITX to mATX so I have a few parts if you were interested and change your mind on the Ryzen bit.

MSI Z270i Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Fractal Design Nano S
Cryorig H5 Ultimate

And possibly..

EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC
2x4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT DDR4-2400 (White)

Might even sell my entire rig with a 7700K at this point, lol.

threezero 08-09-2017 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 8855563)
With Ryzen, you want at least 3000MHz RAM as the Infinity Fabric relies heavily on that. No need for the X. Most R5s should OC to at least 3.8GHz on even the shittiest boards.

BTW, I am doing a case swap from mITX to mATX so I have a few parts if you were interested and change your mind on the Ryzen bit.

MSI Z270i Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Fractal Design Nano S
Cryorig H5 Ultimate

And possibly..

EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC
2x4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT DDR4-2400 (White)

Might even sell my entire rig with a 7700K at this point, lol.

i assume ddr4 3000 means the speed is 3000? the motherboard i choose saids it support 3000mhz ram when OC does that mean I have to tinker around with a 3000 speed RAM to get it to ran at that speed? Or does that mean I can take my 2400 ram and OC it to 3000?


Also is the stock cooler that comes with the ryzen good enough?

twitchyzero 08-09-2017 03:51 PM

when mobo specs say ram speed OC it generally means you can use 3000 sticks but they might not run full speed by default..you have to tweak around with it.

if I can be honest, just buy some parts off Razor Ramon

$1600 pre-taxes/shipping just feels like it's starting to get expensive for a mid-range system...not sure where your costs are putting it high im guessing it's the combo of new SSD, RAM and video card pricing

look on builds at pcpartpicker.ca to comparable ones...maybe your's is fair and I just haven't build mid-range stuff in a while

threezero 08-09-2017 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8855593)
when mobo specs say ram speed OC it generally means you can use 3000 sticks but they might not run full speed by default..you have to tweak around with it.

if I can be honest, just buy some parts off Razor Ramon

$1600 pre-taxes/shipping just feels like it's starting to get expensive for a mid-range system...not sure where your costs are putting it high im guessing it's the combo of new SSD, RAM and video card pricing

look on builds at pcpartpicker.ca to comparable ones...maybe your's is fair and I just haven't build mid-range stuff in a while

its all the little stuff I don't already have that is increasing the build price…. If i have existing hdd sdd, Windows software, dvd burner etc my price would be lower.

I can probably lower it another 100-200$ ish if buy from different place instead of all Newegg. But might not make a difference when shipping gets added on….

Yes the video card pricing isnt help. On the other hand NVDA has made me some money this year, I can't get too mad.

Manic! 08-09-2017 11:40 PM

Windows you can get for dirt cheap and whats the point of a DVD burner these days?

Jmac 08-10-2017 04:58 AM

DVD Burner is like $15 ... It's not making or breaking a build.

The_Situation 08-11-2017 12:19 PM

How do you upgrade ram? I just tried installing 2 sticks of 8gb ram into the same slots that the previous 2x4gb sticks were in, but the DRAM led went on and it wouldnt boot properly. Its the exact same ram but just double the gb.

also I've installed the new evga g3 psu. Ill keep you guys posted on this restart problem i have.

underscore 08-11-2017 01:14 PM

Maybe some bios settings need tweaking? Other than the size are there any differences (speed, etc)?

Manic! 08-11-2017 01:52 PM

Try just one stick of ram.

The_Situation 08-11-2017 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8855939)
Maybe some bios settings need tweaking? Other than the size are there any differences (speed, etc)?

Nope both 1600. Anddddd the restarts are still happening with the new psu..
I pray to god that it's the ram that's the problem now

1 stick of ram worked. now to see if it restarts.

lilaznviper 08-12-2017 01:44 PM

use memtest to see if there is an issue on the memory.

ButterFingers 08-12-2017 01:52 PM

Seems like you changed a lot of parts, ever consider the motherboard?

I had an issue where my computer would boot for 1-2 seconds then turn on and off continuously by itself. Turned out one of my ram slots were bad. (worked after i took out the ram in the bad slot).

Ikkaku 08-12-2017 02:44 PM

I have the antec p280, the edition without top mounted opening. I use the noctua d14 for CPU cooler. I bought a 4 pack of the cougar turbines on sale. Noticed the case had optional mounting points for front panel and also on the drive bay racks as internal intake. I threw all 4 on and now computer sounds like a mini vacuum. Do the internal intake fans really make much of a difference? Should I just unmount them and hope my case becomes relatively quiet again?

DragonChi 08-12-2017 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ikkaku (Post 8856088)
I have the antec p280, the edition without top mounted opening. I use the noctua d14 for CPU cooler. I bought a 4 pack of the cougar turbines on sale. Noticed the case had optional mounting points for front panel and also on the drive bay racks as internal intake. I threw all 4 on and now computer sounds like a mini vacuum. Do the internal intake fans really make much of a difference? Should I just unmount them and hope my case becomes relatively quiet again?

It sounds like you'd added too many intake fans and is causing your case to become positively pressurized, hence the vacuum sound.

You could try taking out one of the intake fans and converting it to an exhaust fan.

Mr.Money 08-12-2017 05:34 PM

download HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID and see if there is any change at all swapping out a fan in temperature.....mine has two intakes and one exhaust,the optional 2 on the top but reviews say the case will drop 1 or 2 degrees so i didn't think it would be worth it to add more.

Ikkaku 08-12-2017 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8856090)
It sounds like you'd added too many intake fans and is causing your case to become positively pressurized, hence the vacuum sound.

You could try taking out one of the intake fans and converting it to an exhaust fan.

I think I will just disable the 2 internal intakes, since it's not really much of an option to turn it into an exhaust.

http://cdn.overclock.net/7/74/900x90...b91_bwKH0.jpeg

the mounting points in question are 1 and 2 lol

my case I guess is a special edition that doesn't include top mounts FailFish

@ Mr.Money, my temps are decent until I play pubg, that's when it becomes an oven lol

Razor Ramon HG 08-13-2017 04:02 AM

For most builds, the rule of thumb is that air comes from the front and goes out the back/top.

DragonChi 08-13-2017 08:33 AM

Spoiler!


You could always use a dremel tool to cut out a spot. It would require some work, and could mangle the aesthetics. lol.

I would also recommend finding a grill as well.

Having a top exhaust has the potential to shoot dust into the air too.

I would disable fans 1 and 2, see how it sounds, then use the spares as replacements when the ones in your case fail.

Manic! 08-13-2017 10:15 AM


I would go two front one back.


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