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roastpuff 04-09-2020 07:54 AM

If money is tight, why a Z-board? They are not gaming or overclocking. Why use a SSD and not a regular hard drive? These are Grade 3 and 5 kids. Your build is more like a budget gaming build than a "school and web browsing" build.

I would suggest a refurbished PC, it would be as good for cheaper, and includes a legit copy of Windows. For example:

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX81328 - $449, i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Windows 10 Pro license.

There are even cheaper ones ($200-300) but you would have to add more RAM so I figured this was a good configuration.

TjAlmeida 04-09-2020 08:57 AM

Spoiler!


I guess when I was piecing it out I tried to keep the price down but also keep it easily upgradable in the future if they feel they want more.

Good idea on the refurb towers, I’ll point them in that direction as well.

underscore 04-09-2020 10:34 AM

A GTX 1060, 16GB and an m.2 SSD for school work and YouTube seems like massive overkill to me. I mean I game with a second hand GTX 970 and the guts of a business Dell I got for $80.

Even the cheapest of the refurbs from ME or MCS should be plenty powerful and if they do need more from it down the road the up front savings can be directed to a more specific part. Or if the kids end up fighting over whose turn it is they can buy a whole second computer for the same total.

Don't forget to toss something like TeamViewer on there ahead of time too so you don't have to physically go over there if something gets borked.

TjAlmeida 04-09-2020 11:29 AM

Spoiler!


1060 is definitely overkill, but it’s a reason for myself to upgrade, a 1060 only goes for $200-250 on Craigslist. I told them to check out some refurb options and go from there. Before we were just basing off new towers and most they showed me priced in the $600 range, so I went on to say for that range I’m sure we can put something together better for similar price.

Phozy 04-09-2020 02:17 PM

Not PC Related but: Can anyone recommend a decent laptop right now for $500?

Intended usage just youtube, netflix, spreadsheets. Nothing crazy.

I was looking at refurbished business books like Dell Latitudes ~$400 and Lenovo T460s for $500. Thoughts?

twitchyzero 04-09-2020 06:10 PM

^ one of my Latitude's magnetic pins died 3 years in but i kept some spare parts...mind you i'm pretty harsh on that one (the chassis made of Mg built to mil-spec) have 4 of them in the household and they're still chugging along ...going NVMe/Thunderbolt 3 in 2015 makes it still very relevant into the near future

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8982289)
A GTX 1060, 16GB and an m.2 SSD for school work and YouTube seems like massive overkill to me. I mean I game with a second hand GTX 970 and the guts of a business Dell I got for $80.

all i know is 8GB isn't enough for 6+ chrome tabs esp once you load photos/videos (i've looked into tweaks in the browser/checking for memory leaks etc.)

could you go cheaper than that setup, sure...but i would not recommend desktop memory <16GB these days

underscore 04-09-2020 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8982375)
chrome

I don't use Chrome but there's your problem. I currently have 77 tabs in Firefox, all of my computers regularly have 20+ with 8GB and I've never had issues.

For something that's harder to upgrade like the CPU I can understand spec'ing a little high, but especially when they're on a budget there's not much point in spending money up front on a component that installs in seconds and costs the same either way you buy it if you haven't actually shown a need for it yet.

Manic! 04-09-2020 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phozy (Post 8982334)
Not PC Related but: Can anyone recommend a decent laptop right now for $500?

Intended usage just youtube, netflix, spreadsheets. Nothing crazy.

I was looking at refurbished business books like Dell Latitudes ~$400 and Lenovo T460s for $500. Thoughts?

This is a pretty solid deal: https://vancouver.craigslist.org/bnc...105932194.html

256 SSD 16 gigs ram and USB C with thunderbolt. He claims its a 7th gen CPU but Lenovo says it's the 6th gen also check if it's a full HD screen. Might be able to get the price lower. I think it may go fast.

https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops.../p/22TP2TT4700

Purely 04-12-2020 10:52 AM

Looking into building a new rig with the Ryzen 5 3600x for gaming at 1080p. Is it worth building now, or should I wait for the new 4000 series/AM4+/AM5 sockets?

Razor Ramon HG 04-12-2020 12:50 PM

Zen 3 is arriving in another half a year. Hard to say without knowing your existing build.

I'm using a 3600X now and it's been amazing. You could save some money going with a 3600 as well.

Verdasco 04-25-2020 05:47 PM

Bought a 5700xt brand new from the store

fucking black screens and crashes with video games

why did I do this to myself

Razor Ramon HG 04-25-2020 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verdasco (Post 8984542)
Bought a 5700xt brand new from the store

fucking black screens and crashes with video games

why did I do this to myself

Updated drivers? I know the launch drivers with the 5XXX series were shit, but there shouldn't be issues now.

My brothers that have a Gigabyte 5600XT and a Sapphire 5700XT both have no issues.

SpeedStars 04-25-2020 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verdasco (Post 8984542)
Bought a 5700xt brand new from the store

fucking black screens and crashes with video games

why did I do this to myself

Had crazy consistent bad black screens and BSOD's before the adrenaline 2020 updates. Sapphire 5700xt here and no issues now.

Verdasco 04-25-2020 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 8984544)
Updated drivers? I know the launch drivers with the 5XXX series were shit, but there shouldn't be issues now.

My brothers that have a Gigabyte 5600XT and a Sapphire 5700XT both have no issues.

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Originally Posted by SpeedStars (Post 8984545)
Had crazy consistent bad black screens and BSOD's before the adrenaline 2020 updates. Sapphire 5700xt here and no issues now.

got the gigabyte 5700xt OC

could just be PUBG and other games, maybe I shouldn't be pointing fingers yet. I just built this computer 2 days ago so drivers is up to speed

vixroar 04-26-2020 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Verdasco (Post 8984548)
got the gigabyte 5700xt OC

could just be PUBG and other games, maybe I shouldn't be pointing fingers yet. I just built this computer 2 days ago so drivers is up to speed

I had that one too and same issues. Plus was getting 96c junction temp, which was too high for my liking. Exchanged it for gigabyte 2070S gaming OC and not a single issue with it.

pherio 04-27-2020 08:48 AM

Any recommendations on graphics cards for 4k60? I skipped out on getting a new graphics card when upgrading last fall, and still rocking my R9 290

roastpuff 04-27-2020 10:32 AM

2070 Super. Best bang for the buck.

sonick 04-27-2020 10:59 AM

Any recommendations for a quiet mechanical tactile keyboard with ten-key for 100% work (i.e. no gaming whatsoever)? Quietness is most important, with feel being secondary.

I am only familiar with MX cherry switches, so assuming Browns are what I am looking for. Not sure if there are other equivalent switches.

This one looks good but would ideally prefer something closer to the $100 mark and not $150: https://www.amazon.ca/DURGOD-Mechani.../dp/B07N19RCKQ

twitchyzero 04-27-2020 11:25 AM

wall mounting a desktop was harder than expected

plug: can part the evga 1080 ti ftw3 which is still faster than the 5700 xt and 2070 super...ive only turned this system on a handful of times and never overclocked/gamed on it, has warranty and original box

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.n...0f&oe=5ECB7738

Razor Ramon HG 05-06-2020 02:55 PM

Case reminds me of the Z-CASE P50.

https://www.sfftec.com/product-page/z-case-p50-v1-1

areyez 05-06-2020 03:19 PM

looking to potentially build a new comp, any feedback on what ive put together so far?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/

Manic! 05-06-2020 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by areyez (Post 8985580)
looking to potentially build a new comp, any feedback on what ive put together so far?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/

It seems lopsided with a 3900x CPU and an RX580 GPU. I also don't know what's up with the price of the RX 580 it's a $250 card but the price on pc partpicker is $559. I paid $329 at the height of GPU mining. I have that motherboard. the only thing I don't like is the chipset fan gets covered by the GPU. What are you using this for and what's your budget?

areyez 05-06-2020 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8985618)
It seems lopsided with a 3900x CPU and an RX580 GPU. I also don't know what's up with the price of the RX 580 it's a $250 card but the price on pc partpicker is $559. I paid $329 at the height of GPU mining. I have that motherboard. the only thing I don't like is the chipset fan gets covered by the GPU. What are you using this for and what's your budget?


did the link glitch or something? cause on my list i have 3700x and 5700xt

Manic! 05-06-2020 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by areyez (Post 8985620)
did the link glitch or something? cause on my list i have 3700x and 5700xt

Something is wrong with your link. a 5700xt and a 3700x is a much better combo. If you are just gaming a 3600 would also be a good choice.

twitchyzero 05-06-2020 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 8985574)
Case reminds me of the Z-CASE P50.

https://www.sfftec.com/product-page/z-case-p50-v1-1

wish it was compact/sff so it’d be actually somewhat practical

but always wanted Lian li so spent a bit more for the eye candy as it’s in the living room

build quality definitely a step up from the usual Corsairs I go with


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