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Traum 09-17-2020 09:59 AM

If you are looking for good coverage, a new WiFi router alone may not be your magic ticket. In particular, I think you'd be better off looking into a mesh WiFi setup to offer full house coverage.

That is probably something I should do too, but I haven't done enough homework to know what's good.

StylinRed 09-17-2020 12:44 PM

I was googling a mesh system too but am still reading up

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Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 8999538)
How big is the house? How many floors? What kind of construction?

3000sqft, wood, 2flrs, I'm not sure if a new router would help just yet either

I'm sitting on the floor above the router, directly above the router and the connection will disconnect for a second, switch to lte, then reconnect to the WiFi -_- but! My tvs/firesticks/laptops don't seem to have a problem, so I'm wondering now if it's just my phone :/

TOS'd 09-17-2020 01:00 PM

How about powerline w/ wireless access points?

twitchyzero 09-17-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8999451)
In most games, the boost from 2080 - 3080 isn't that high. Even at 4K we're talking about 20-30% higher frame rates.

In the super graphically intense games it's higher, but still not crazy

If you play under 4K, your 2080 is totally fine for now.

those numbers seem right according to deep dive sources (gamersnexus and digital foudnry)

this is before raytracing which is becoming standard with the new consoles

i think it's a big deal because moore's law kinda came back/higher end of the GPU market is attainable again which has been absent for several years now

alright one more :alone:

Vansterdam 09-17-2020 03:19 PM

3080 on 4K barely gives you 60+ fps on max settings on newest game from what Ive read.

it be really good for 1080/1440p

Im thinking if I do get a 3080 Il get a 30-32" curved 1440P 144hz monitor

or wait it out and bet theres a 3080 TI that would have more mem/be better for 4K gaming

ray tracing is still meh. all about that DLSS though.

StylinRed 09-17-2020 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TOS'd (Post 8999592)
How about powerline w/ wireless access points?

Dude I'm literally clueless to this, I had no idea something like that existed! :lol really got to do some reading lol

roastpuff 09-17-2020 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TOS'd (Post 8999592)
How about powerline w/ wireless access points?

Not a huge fan of them because it highly depends on the wiring inside your walls. Mesh systems better, or one powerful router in the middle.

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8999589)
I was googling a mesh system too but am still reading up



3000sqft, wood, 2flrs, I'm not sure if a new router would help just yet either

I'm sitting on the floor above the router, directly above the router and the connection will disconnect for a second, switch to lte, then reconnect to the WiFi -_- but! My tvs/firesticks/laptops don't seem to have a problem, so I'm wondering now if it's just my phone :/

Is it swapping between 2.4ghz/5ghz networks? Could be that... that house is not so big, I'd try a new router first before going mesh. Something like https://www.amazon.ca/NETGEAR-Nighth...388466&sr=8-20

Manic! 09-17-2020 05:56 PM

Anyone get a 3080?

StylinRed 09-17-2020 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 8999635)
Not a huge fan of them because it highly depends on the wiring inside your walls. Mesh systems better, or one powerful router in the middle.



Is it swapping between 2.4ghz/5ghz networks? Could be that... that house is not so big, I'd try a new router first before going mesh. Something like https://www.amazon.ca/NETGEAR-Nighth...388466&sr=8-20

At first I was leaning towards a better router n just sticking it in the middle of the house, but went down the rabbit hole of solutions n became sorely confused

I don't even see a 5ghz option with the Shaw gateway so I assumed it didn't even have that, but it does act like that (hopping between connections)

Edit: omg that did it, I didn't know shaw sets the 2.4ghz n 5ghz to the same name, even with a custom name! logged into the router and edited the 5G, I think that should fix my problems! When you mentioned 5G it dawned on me my issues are really similar to whenever I used a 5G connection in the past

TOS'd 09-18-2020 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 8999635)
Not a huge fan of them because it highly depends on the wiring inside your walls. Mesh systems better, or one powerful router in the middle.

Yea for sure, I've set up powerline in 3 different houses and 1 of them wasn't compatible.

It's gave a really good wired connection to a desktop pc using ethernet that was one floor below and across the whole house. Plus also being an access point, it improved the wifi in the basement in my case.

bcrdukes 09-18-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8999670)
Edit: omg that did it, I didn't know shaw sets the 2.4ghz n 5ghz to the same name, even with a custom name! logged into the router and edited the 5G, I think that should fix my problems! When you mentioned 5G it dawned on me my issues are really similar to whenever I used a 5G connection in the past

Which modem/router are you using?

Depending on the model, some of their modems (I think their Comcast one) has band steering so regardless of which one you choose, it will switch you to the most optimized band given a variety of factors.

When I switched to Telus fibre or whatever it is called, the new gateway does exactly this, except they've placed pods throughout the house. I can't discern which is 2.4 and 5Ghz WiFi, but it seems to work well.

Edit: @roastpuff - Do you currently use the Netgear R7000P? If so, any feedback, and pros and cons? I'm using a Netgrear R6220 at my current place, but unsure if the R7000P is going to make a huge difference. I'm moving from a small condo to a stacked townhouse in a few weeks, and need something that will provide coverage for the entire place. Costco has the R7000P on sale right now for $179.99 until September 24! :)

SSM_DC5 09-18-2020 11:45 AM

I have the Shaw modem (hitron CGNM-2250) and the 5GHz network disappears all the time from the list of available networks. Comes back randomly too. I've tried rescanning while right beside the modem and it's still missing, so I don't think it's a location/distance issue

roastpuff 09-18-2020 12:23 PM

The Shaw Hitron modem is garbage. Use a different router, or 2.4ghz only. But then if it's 2.4ghz only, no point in going higher than 300mbps lol.

StylinRed 09-18-2020 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 8999747)
Which modem/router are you using?

Depending on the model, some of their modems (I think their Comcast one) has band steering so regardless of which one you choose, it will switch you to the most optimized band given a variety of factors.

It's their bluecurve gateway (made by Arris)
https://support.shaw.ca/t5/internet-...eway/ta-p/5632

Says it has 8 antennas for the 5ghz but my God it was annoying, no problems since forcing my phone to connect to the 2.4ghz

bcrdukes 09-18-2020 04:59 PM

Well, 5Ghz is always a bit wonky to begin with, and I would say it isn't the greatest feature of the Bluecurve gateway. If you're allowed to, connect a better router to it.

WIFi on Hitron modems are just garbage. They are good as modems only, not as wireless routers. I'm using one now, but stopped using the WiFi now that I've connected my Netgear router to it. It's been great.

Razor Ramon HG 09-18-2020 07:28 PM

Unless you have a small condo, most people should probably use their Shaw modem as their gateway and invest in a few Ubiquiti APs or a simple mesh wireless system with a wired backhaul.

LuHua 09-19-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 8999852)
Unless you have a small condo, most people should probably use their Shaw modem as their gateway and invest in a few Ubiquiti APs or a simple mesh wireless system with a wired backhaul.

Yep, 2 UAP-AC-Lites should give pretty good coverage around a house that size., should end up being under $200. Nest Wifi isn't bad either, the configuration's easier to deal with than Ubiquiti's

twitchyzero 09-20-2020 10:31 AM

having the same issue with the garbage hitrons: weak signal and unreliable connection

house: living space rearfacing ground floor, modem is upstairs facing front

would i have better luck just plugging in a router or use a powerline to the grd flr and use the router down here?

had the whole nas/router setup before this but wanted to simplify, nope! gateways are still as terrible as they were 15 years ago...

Razor Ramon HG 09-20-2020 07:35 PM

I think most people having issues with their WiFi is due to their environment. In some situations, one single AP just can't provide enough coverage for the whole place.

I've never had any issues with the devices that Shaw sent out to me. The current Bluecurve one has a really shit UI, but other than that, no real issues with it and it's forwarding gigabit traffic to my TP-Link Deco access points.

Hehe 09-20-2020 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8999977)
having the same issue with the garbage hitrons: weak signal and unreliable connection

house: living space rearfacing ground floor, modem is upstairs facing front

would i have better luck just plugging in a router or use a powerline to the grd flr and use the router down here?

had the whole nas/router setup before this but wanted to simplify, nope! gateways are still as terrible as they were 15 years ago...

Just get Shaw/Telus to put their modem into bridge mode and use your own wifi routers.

I use the Orbi and it has been near problem free other than some old device compatibility that took some hours to figure out a solution. Other than that, very stable. Same setup at my in-laws and their house is 4x00sqft...

lilaznviper 09-21-2020 05:24 PM

+1 one orbi devices. they are really easy to setup and works really well. They go on sale a lot at bestbuy.

roastpuff 09-22-2020 07:46 AM

The great thing about Orbi is that they have wireless backhaul. None of that shared backhaul bandwith crap a lot of the other mesh systems do.

SpeedStars 09-22-2020 11:50 AM

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Big-Na....494835.0.html

Haven't seen this posted yet but the new big navi card (6900XT) could beat the 3090 during gaming and cost less. Hope it doesn't flip like the Radeon 7.

TOS'd 09-22-2020 01:18 PM

There was also this leak too about 3080 20GB version and 3070 16GB version:

https://hothardware.com/news/gigabyt...-rtx-3070-16gb

Manic! 09-23-2020 01:15 AM

Linus tests the 3090 on a 88 inch 8k TV.



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