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bcrdukes 12-31-2024 01:45 PM

Excuse me, Manic. But do you not see the sign in the back?

No reading. No cellphone. No smoking. Are you inside a prison or something? Or just your convenience store? :lol

Manic! 12-31-2024 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9159676)
Excuse me, Manic. But do you not see the sign in the back?

No reading. No cellphone. No smoking. Are you inside a prison or something? Or just your convenience store? :lol

Just at work and those rules where only for one old employee.

Traum 12-31-2024 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9159673)
Noob question (because I've never done this before.)

I have an Intel i5-6500T CPU using an LGA 1151 socket. I've come across an Intel i7-7700T which is also an LGA 1151 socket. Can I do a remove/replace swap or is there more to consider such as the motherboard chipset and all that stuff? Thanks in advance!

Edit: The motherboard uses an Intel Q270 chipset.

In theory, the i7-7700T is also supported by the Q270 chipset:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...ompatible.html

Personally, I would look up the exact brand and model of the motherboard, and try to confirm that the particular MB model actually supports the newer gen CPU -- it probably should, although a newer version of the BIOS might be needed to provide that support. If a newer BIOS is really needed, I'd load that in before upgrading to the newer CPU.

That said, I don't really expect a massive improvement in speeds with the 7th gen i7 for any normal thing you do with the computer.

bcrdukes 12-31-2024 04:06 PM

Motherboard / computer in question is a Lenovo ThinkCentre M910q. They theoretically have the same motherboard of this generation. They just came in different flavours with regard to CPU / RAM / SSD configurations.

Thanks on the tip processor. This is mostly going to be used for browsing RS, MS Office (Word/Excel/Powerpoint/Teams) and that's about it. No gaming, whatsoever.

I can't upgrade this to Windows 11, so I'm stuck on Windows 10, which I'm okay with. To my surprise, this box I picked up came with 32GB DDR4 RAM.

bobbinka 12-31-2024 04:26 PM

I havent looked for a long time, but it seems like nowadays that building your own computer saves very little money vs buying a pre-built computer... and video cards are like half the cost of a computer itself. crazy

underscore 12-31-2024 04:42 PM

Usually those came with lower quality components, especially for the ancillary stuff like the PSU and fans. That might be less of an issue these days though.

bcrdukes 12-31-2024 05:41 PM

Ditto on build vs. buy. The savings are marginal and only of benefit if you enjoy the struggle of putting the puzzle together. After watching all the videos, reading forums and blogs, I came the the conclusion that I wasted way too much time and said fuck it.

Went to Canada Computers and spent $140 on this mini PC. :D

SkinnyPupp 12-31-2024 06:31 PM

Yup DIY is pretty much dead. Considering I spent like 15 years of my life all around that, it's kind of sad to see. That's just how it is though

bobbinka 12-31-2024 07:02 PM

i just hate that most of the gaming computers come with glass cases and RGB everything.

bcrdukes 12-31-2024 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbinka (Post 9159706)
i just hate that most of the gaming computers come with glass cases and RGB everything.

Yes! Thank you!

Some of these out-of-the-box builds are just wild. How did it end up like this? :facepalm:

roastpuff 12-31-2024 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9159709)
Yes! Thank you!

Some of these out-of-the-box builds are just wild. How did it end up like this? :facepalm:

Influencer culture

underscore 12-31-2024 08:59 PM

Catering to people who can't be bothered to learn about specs. Looks like gaming PC = is gaming PC.

bcrdukes 01-01-2025 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9159719)
Catering to people who can't be bothered to learn about specs. Looks like gaming PC = is gaming PC.

They all more or less look the same. It's hard to differentiate unless you really dive into the specs and somewhat aware of what you're getting. Go on any computer website, and it's either a gaming PC or...a gaming PC. This really soured my experience.

roastpuff shared a few good options from RedFlagDeals, but as usual, hoarders on that forum swooped them up, including my very own user errors, and I missed out. Alas, I'm stuck with this ancient relic. :D

I previously wanted to do some video rendering/editing of my track day videos for post-track analysis. I've decided to take the simple step of analyzing the GPS data that's processed by the software I'm using first to determine any anomalies, and then if necessary, render the video with the data overlay to do further analysis. I had a hard time rendering videos on my Microsoft Surface Pro 6, and I'm not 100% sure why. My hunch is the lack of hard disk real estate (256GB) and/or lack of resources such as CPU and memory (8GB only.) :okay:

My track time this year may be limited due to my decision of going back to school (not recommended!)

Manic! 01-01-2025 11:25 AM

Prebuilds from companies a lot of times come with proprietary parts, undersized psu's crappy cooling and a single stick of ram.

BIC_BAWS 01-01-2025 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9159689)
Motherboard / computer in question is a Lenovo ThinkCentre M910q. They theoretically have the same motherboard of this generation. They just came in different flavours with regard to CPU / RAM / SSD configurations.

Thanks on the tip processor. This is mostly going to be used for browsing RS, MS Office (Word/Excel/Powerpoint/Teams) and that's about it. No gaming, whatsoever.

I can't upgrade this to Windows 11, so I'm stuck on Windows 10, which I'm okay with. To my surprise, this box I picked up came with 32GB DDR4 RAM.

If this mobo is ECC compatible, I have 2x Lenovo DDR4 (TruDDR) 16GB 3200mhZ (2Rx8 1.2V) RDIMM available if you need. But needs to be ECC compatible which is usually a server thing (or ThinkCentre)

Razor Ramon HG 01-01-2025 04:27 PM

Those use SODIMM, so he probably already has 2x16GB slots.

Usually only full-sized workstations (e.g. Lenovo ThinkStations, Dell Precision) and servers support ECC out of the box.

Oshiguru 01-02-2025 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9159702)
Yup DIY is pretty much dead. Considering I spent like 15 years of my life all around that, it's kind of sad to see. That's just how it is though

I was surprised about this as well.

Upgraded to a 9800x3d system from my 5600x. I found a prebuilt using name brand parts that I would've actually picked if i built it myself (good timing ram, good AIO, new PSU with the new 4xxx connectors, mid tier non basebones mobo, etc) + sales ended up being cheaper than DIY

Heck, even with the sales I was able to buy a case I wanted and transferred everything over and still save a few $$$s. Plus I was able to get the CPU that seems like every local store is "OOS" but has their own in house prebuilts with them for sale and not OOS.

bcrdukes 01-02-2025 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS (Post 9159766)
If this mobo is ECC compatible, I have 2x Lenovo DDR4 (TruDDR) 16GB 3200mhZ (2Rx8 1.2V) RDIMM available if you need. But needs to be ECC compatible which is usually a server thing (or ThinkCentre)

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Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 9159773)
Those use SODIMM, so he probably already has 2x16GB slots.

Usually only full-sized workstations (e.g. Lenovo ThinkStations, Dell Precision) and servers support ECC out of the box.

Thanks to you both. Razor Ramon is correct. It's SODIMM and it has 2 x 16GB slots. Maximum this motherboard can support is 32GB. :)

I should clarify - the Microsoft Surface Pro 6 I have has RAM and its SSD soldered onto the motherboard. It's not an easy repair (not for the faint of heart) and typically isn't a simple procedure. Lots of reports of people trying, only to ruin the entire device. It wasn't until I think Surface Pro 7 or 8 and beyond where they made their products with user-replaceable parts. :okay:

I'm willing to spend the money on a nice meal, a comfortable seat on a flight, and track days, but computers aren't going to be the money pit for me. :D

N.V.M. 01-05-2025 05:58 AM

fail post

N.V.M. 01-05-2025 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbinka (Post 9159706)
i just hate that most of the gaming computers come with glass cases and RGB everything.

hello!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DESVb...JiMzQ5ZWQ2Mw==

Manic! 01-06-2025 06:11 PM

Just announced. The 5070 will have the same performance as a 4090.

https://i.ibb.co/BZmdKpM/nvidia.jpg

Traum 01-06-2025 07:09 PM

I need the $300 5060 version... :tears:

bobbinka 01-07-2025 07:13 AM

so glad i didnt take the plunge last month

bcrdukes 01-07-2025 11:37 AM

Do any of you guys have a recommendation for an external USB backup/storage drive?

I need to find a way to backup my files and and any post processed track day videos for analysis. Thanks!

roastpuff 01-07-2025 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9160437)
Do any of you guys have a recommendation for an external USB backup/storage drive?

I need to find a way to backup my files and and any post processed track day videos for analysis. Thanks!

How much video? Cheap and lots of storage will be spinning non portable HDDs, like this: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...00400/15469301

Otherwise if you want portable and fast, pick up a portable SSD like this: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...glish/14683402


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