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07-26-2012, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp  Greens are NOT to be used in an NAS.
WD has a new lineup intended to be used in NAS - WD Red | Yes. Of course raid/nas specific drives are better as they're certified by the manufacturer as I stated above but there is no reason why greens won't work perfectly for the average home user in a nas mirror other than the LLC which I always change during installation. Many users use these drives just fine as well the nas manufacturers place them on their compatibility list. This is my 3rd set of drives now and they've always worked great.
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07-26-2012, 02:31 AM
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#1077 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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Originally Posted by !MiKrofT Yes. Of course raid/nas specific drives are better as they're certified by the manufacturer as I stated above but there is no reason why greens won't work perfectly for the average home user in a nas mirror other than the LLC which I always change during installation. Many users use these drives just fine as well the nas manufacturers place them on their compatibility list. This is my 3rd set of drives now and they've always worked great. | Actually there are plenty of reports of Greens dying and failing in NAS/home media players. It's not just about certification, the hardware/firmware combo makes the drives unsuitable for this type of usage.
They need to be in a PC to be depended upon. If you use them in a non PC environment, you are risking failure. In that case, use a WD Red (which I think may just be rebranded RE drives, not sure)
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07-26-2012, 02:56 AM
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#1078 | | Got MOD?
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Actually there are plenty of reports of Greens dying and failing in NAS/home media players. It's not just about certification, the hardware/firmware combo makes the drives unsuitable for this type of usage.
They need to be in a PC to be depended upon. If you use them in a non PC environment, you are risking failure. In that case, use a WD Red (which I think may just be rebranded RE drives, not sure) | True. It's mainly the firmware and the idle timeouts. The red drives probably have additional hardware and if they are a decent price I'll switch to them when the 4tb ones are out. There are failures as with any hardware but it's hard to say if it's NAS related or just a dying drive. There are also plenty of users that don't have any issues. I actually had greens in raid on my desktop prior to this as well and the type of usage is more or less the same. Anyways. My NAS is only on during the day and half that time it's usually in sleep mode so I'm not really concerned.
Food for thought. WD's own external NAS units like the My Live Duo uses wd greens in raid mirror or stripe mode.
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07-26-2012, 05:49 AM
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#1079 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero is that for basic web surfing/word processing? I dont see a video card.
If it is..not sure why buy i7 processor and 32gb ram?
anyways if you buy 3770K you're gonna have to do it some justice
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07-27-2012, 06:18 PM
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#1080 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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Originally Posted by reamemiya What's a good program to monitor health and s.m.a.r.t.(?) of your hard drive? | Bump
So what tool do you guys use to run test and diagnose your HDD? I'm trying out Crystaldiskinfo, though I have no idea what's good and what's not.
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07-28-2012, 11:44 AM
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#1081 | | OWNER/C.F.O./MONEYMAN
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no vid card yet, i havent decided, just running off the vid card on the mobo for now. it can handle d3, thats good enough for me.
why the crazy amount of ram and stupid processor? the mobo + cpu was cheap, great deal combo, the ram costs 200 bucks. since i havent built a new comp in over 5 years, i found the pricing reasonable. with that being said, i didnt know pricing dropped so much. (i remember paying $380 bucks for 4MB more ram back in the day)
at the same time, i run multiple programs all the time, from ftp, brower w/ multi windows, tv tuner, word processor, mail, excel, serato, audio editting, and stupid chat programs, the extra ram is welcomed. before i would get a little window statting my browser was using 500+mb, and would start seeing it lagg, now it says im running 700+mb, and it doesnt slow down one bit.
the cpu and ram are for extreme multi tasking, that and serato is pretty resource hungry when it wants to be.
undecided on a cpu heat sink as well, the setup is running fairly cool. Quote:
Originally Posted by twitchyzero is that for basic web surfing/word processing? I dont see a video card.
If it is..not sure why buy i7 processor and 32gb ram?
anyways if you buy 3770K you're gonna have to do it some justice
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07-29-2012, 05:40 PM
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#1082 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Building an HP g6t.
Core i5-3210M
6GB DDR3-1600
500GB 7200rpm
GDDR5 7670M 1GB or 2GB
I know desktop and laptop cards are totally different, but I use a 6770 in my desktop which is also GDDR5 and 1GB. I can run most games on mid-high settings in 1920x1080. My question is, will the extra 1GB in the GPU make a real difference, as I will be running a secondary 1920x1080 display as well.
Dunno if the 7670 will run out of shaders and bottleneck performance first, since the i5-3210M is quite powerful.
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07-29-2012, 06:50 PM
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#1083 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Originally Posted by akinari-kun Building an HP g6t.
Core i5-3210M
6GB DDR3-1600
500GB 7200rpm
GDDR5 7670M 1GB or 2GB
I know desktop and laptop cards are totally different, but I use a 6770 in my desktop which is also GDDR5 and 1GB. I can run most games on mid-high settings in 1920x1080. My question is, will the extra 1GB in the GPU make a real difference, as I will be running a secondary 1920x1080 display as well.
Dunno if the 7670 will run out of shaders and bottleneck performance first, since the i5-3210M is quite powerful. | For desktop if your goin to play games on two screens runnin off one graphic card, I would go for 2GB. Reason is with higher resolution, there will be an increase in the amount of texture quality loaded. So you would need enough vram to play games smoothly on both screens.
If your just using one screen to play games, 1GB would be enough for ur desktop or laptop.
hope i answered ur question
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08-03-2012, 10:05 PM
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#1084 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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need some advice on HDD Raid 1
my Sammy 2TB Green has been super reliable but I dont have any back up of my data atm so I dont like holding my breath like this
i already have ssd for boot drive but I was thinking of picking up a seagate 2TB 7200rpm and use that for my main hard drive. Then use my current sammy to mirror its data as backup
Only barrier is I know green drives constantly spins down for powersaving...it seems for some drive you can disable this under OS settings but some are built in firmware that may be impossible to turn it off
even if i do...is there any way the 7200rpm drive will still run at that speed...or will it run at 5400rpm to match the slower green drive? I ask this because my torrent traffic will still happen on these conventional spinners.
TIA
OT but if I knew seagate was gonna buy out samsung i would've bought more F4s!
HDD market post-flood is pretty messed up..prices are still slightly inflated...only 2 major players..reduced warranties
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08-03-2012, 10:32 PM
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#1085 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero need some advice on HDD Raid 1
my Sammy 2TB Green has been super reliable but I dont have any back up of my data atm so I dont like holding my breath like this
i already have ssd for boot drive but I was thinking of picking up a seagate 2TB 7200rpm and use that for my main hard drive. Then use my current sammy to mirror its data as backup
Only barrier is I know green drives constantly spins down for powersaving...it seems for some drive you can disable this under OS settings but some are built in firmware that may be impossible to turn it off
even if i do...is there any way the 7200rpm drive will still run at that speed...or will it run at 5400rpm to match the slower green drive? I ask this because my torrent traffic will still happen on these conventional spinners.
TIA
OT but if I knew seagate was gonna buy out samsung i would've bought more F4s!
HDD market post-flood is pretty messed up..prices are still slightly inflated...only 2 major players..reduced warranties | your main drive will run watever the speed it suppose to run on. Your green drive will run slower. The transfer rate between the two will be slower than havin two 7200rpm drives in RAID1
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08-04-2012, 02:29 AM
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Maybe you guys have seen this already but I thought it's pretty crazy. Completed Bitfenix Prodigy Watercooled - Hardware Canucks | |
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08-04-2012, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero need some advice on HDD Raid 1
my Sammy 2TB Green has been super reliable but I dont have any back up of my data atm so I dont like holding my breath like this
i already have ssd for boot drive but I was thinking of picking up a seagate 2TB 7200rpm and use that for my main hard drive. Then use my current sammy to mirror its data as backup
Only barrier is I know green drives constantly spins down for powersaving...it seems for some drive you can disable this under OS settings but some are built in firmware that may be impossible to turn it off
even if i do...is there any way the 7200rpm drive will still run at that speed...or will it run at 5400rpm to match the slower green drive? I ask this because my torrent traffic will still happen on these conventional spinners.
TIA
OT but if I knew seagate was gonna buy out samsung i would've bought more F4s!
HDD market post-flood is pretty messed up..prices are still slightly inflated...only 2 major players..reduced warranties | What Recon604 is correct. With RAID mirror the system writes the data to both drives at the same time. Therefore it can only write as fast as the slowest drive which is the 5400rpm one. For me on my WD Green I changed the maximum timeout to 5min. making my headpark count much more reasonable.
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08-05-2012, 08:30 AM
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#1088 | | Meow
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Hey, I'm looking for a little help upgrading my Dell XPS 15z. I bought the version with the 6gb ram instead of the 8gb. I was looking to upgrade, and noticed that people are running 16gb ram and I figured since I was upgrading mine as well go big. Any recommendations on which ram to buy for best performance? I don't want to cheap out since this computer costed me around $1300
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08-05-2012, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Araaadi Hey, I'm looking for a little help upgrading my Dell XPS 15z. I bought the version with the 6gb ram instead of the 8gb. I was looking to upgrade, and noticed that people are running 16gb ram and I figured since I was upgrading mine as well go big. Any recommendations on which ram to buy for best performance? I don't want to cheap out since this computer costed me around $1300 | Just buy any corsair, ocz, gskill kit. The difference is fairly minimal.
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08-05-2012, 10:46 AM
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#1090 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Originally Posted by Araaadi Hey, I'm looking for a little help upgrading my Dell XPS 15z. I bought the version with the 6gb ram instead of the 8gb. I was looking to upgrade, and noticed that people are running 16gb ram and I figured since I was upgrading mine as well go big. Any recommendations on which ram to buy for best performance? I don't want to cheap out since this computer costed me around $1300 | 16gb of ram is a waste. You never use all tat 16gb if you game and browse the internet. 16gb of ram is for ppl who does video editing, movie making, etc. Those require lots of ram because of the converting.
6GB of ram is fine, which one did you get? How is the timing on it?
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08-05-2012, 07:32 PM
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#1091 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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had a ssd for almost a month now and it was worth every penny haha
it actually made everything a lot faster
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08-07-2012, 10:08 PM
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#1092 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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sold my old video cards and planning to go with 1 670 and maybe another one in a year or 2.
does anyone know which brand or where i might be able to find a full water block for this video card?
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08-08-2012, 06:03 PM
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#1093 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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Originally Posted by lilaznviper sold my old video cards and planning to go with 1 670 and maybe another one in a year or 2.
does anyone know which brand or where i might be able to find a full water block for this video card? | EK waterblocks. GeForce GTX 6x0 Series - Full Cover for Nvidia GeForce - VGA Blocks - Blocks
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08-08-2012, 07:02 PM
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#1094 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by lilaznviper sold my old video cards and planning to go with 1 670 and maybe another one in a year or 2.
does anyone know which brand or where i might be able to find a full water block for this video card? | If you buy the better 670s based on the 680 PCB you can use any 680 waterblock
Gigabyte 670 OC
EVGA 670 FTW
Gainward 670
Zotac 670 AMP!
Heat Killer is pretty well-reviewed Heatkiller® | GTX 680 Water Blocks | Page 1 | Sort By: Product Title A-Z - FrozenCPU.com
but just be warned overclocking on most GTX 600 cards are limited by voltage lock so if noise was your only reason for getting a waterblock I would suggest the MSI 670 Power Edition...you can unlock the voltage on that card with Afterburner....the drawback is this card is not a candidate for watercooling
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08-08-2012, 09:56 PM
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#1095 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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My room heats up way too so thats why i'm going towards water cooling to keep the heat down.
Thanks for the suggestions
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08-08-2012, 10:46 PM
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#1096 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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take that $150 you'll be spending on a block to get an air-con?
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08-09-2012, 05:28 PM
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#1097 | | Revscene.net has a homepage?!
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Hm.. considering upgrading computers.
Running 08 rig with
e8400 OC to 3.6ghz
SLI 8800GT Alpha
4GB of RAM
watercooled
520W CPU - cosair
Time to upgrade? Or keep waiting?Hm... I run all my games fine on med setting still.
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08-09-2012, 08:46 PM
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#1098 | | Trollollolloing RS sine 2005
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero take that $150 you'll be spending on a block to get an air-con? | what abt the electric bill lol
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08-14-2012, 05:38 PM
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#1099 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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if my second HD fails, [i have a crucial M4 SSD as my main OS drive] and caviar black as my secondary, will it fuck up anything else?
it's clicking more often now
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08-14-2012, 05:57 PM
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#1100 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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anyone know where i can buy or if there's even an OEM caddy drive from asus ROG series to replace my optical drive?? i'm searching online and don't seem to find anything from asus and their ROG website seemed like it got hacked and link me to some runescape shit. i just want a OEM one so it doesn't look too ugly
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