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[knight604]

I want the death stalker ultimate

[belaud]

Because I can

[twitchyzero]

what card is that

[G-spec]

gotdang Belaud, I just finished building my first PC and I knew it was a mess, but then I'm lookin at your pic now and I know it's REALLY a mess.... how the fck yall get your cables so nice and neat, I should try tucking them behind the back of the case through the holes I guess ??

also fck I couldn't really even fit that H100 cooler because of the motherboard's heatsink, I took some advice from parts on this thread, and some from my friends, but I picked out my own case and duh it's the one thing that pretty much screws it all up, lol, fckin noob

still waiting on ordered memory and cpu to arrive, I'm gonna let my friend install the CPU he said the pins are easy to bend on the motherboard so I don't wanna fck it up

[Ikkaku]

belaud's occupation involves making setups nice and tidy

yeah, tuck all the loose wires to the back. Hopefully you have a case that has good cable management!

[belaud]

Z9 can't fit the H100, not at all sir. Return it, and buy an Antec P280.

Cards a GTX680 DIRECT CUII

[Cman333]

Originally Posted by Ikkaku

belaud's occupation involves making setups nice and tidy

yeah, tuck all the loose wires to the back. Hopefully you have a case that has good cable management!

I have 3 rigs, only one of them I managed to actually get cable management to look nice. The others were damn near impossible.

It's all about the case IMO. A good case will have have the holes for you to properly conceal the wiring, and also big enough to fit bigger video cards and aftermarket coolers.

[G-spec]

Oh so Belaud is an expert at this shit then, aight that makes me feel a little better lol...

Yea the case i picked out isnt the Z9, its the Z11 plus... but yea man i noticed even before i put the mobo in, the holes didnt align properly but i was able to screw in enough to have it sit tight....

I still havent ordered a vid card. And i got about $500 left for my pc budget, what single card should I go with? Or should I do something in SLI?
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[Manic!]

Originally Posted by G-spec

I still havent ordered a vid card. And i got about $500 left for my pc budget, what single card should I go with? Or should I do something in SLI?
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Go with a single card. Later if you need more power add a second.

[G-spec]

^ thanks dude, do whats the word on powerful single vs dual sli setups?
Im a car guy so in terms i could understand is it like a single turbo vs a twin turbo?
In the sense that if you just want raw horsepower you go with a single?
Like would 2 cards costing $250 each be faster than a single costing $500, or did the manufacturers design it to be pretty much evened out
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[smoothie.]

LOL GSPEC i thought you were trolling until i read your post.

you gotta add one component and then clean up wiring every step to have a decent build by the end.

belaud does amazing work for clean builds.

[jcmaz]

Originally Posted by G-spec

^ thanks dude, do whats the word on powerful single vs dual sli setups?
Im a car guy so in terms i could understand is it like a single turbo vs a twin turbo?
In the sense that if you just want raw horsepower you go with a single?
Like would 2 cards costing $250 each be faster than a single costing $500, or did the manufacturers design it to be pretty much evened out
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Usually single cards are better and trouble free in comparison to SLi/Crossfire. Plus, SLi doesn't always mean you get double the performance (fps). Buy the best card you can afford right now. You can always add in another card for SLi later down the road.

Ummm, not too sure how to word in car terms... but it's kinda like putting 2 engines on a plane. It doesn't mean it'll go twice as fast. Kinda understand?

[twitchyzero]

SLI/Crossfire doesn't yield double the performance..the more cards you add, the worst it'll scale (2 card may be 1.7-1.8x...3 cards may be 2.3x)

so you have roughly $500 budget...let us know what games you play and at what resolution then im sure we can pick a right card for u

[G-spec]

YEa nah im not trolling im just a noob... done with modifying my current car and i miss tinkering with mechanical things so i wanted to pick this pc building thing up as a hobby since its pretty similar.to messin around with my car..

Ok good info, and yea i don't play many games aside from sports titles like fifa and nba 2K, i install battlefield 3 and call of duty for my little bros when they come over to play... but asidebfrom that the only other game i mess with regularly is the total war series, big history buff i love the content...

I have my pc hooked up to the bigscreen so i guess 1080p, resolution is something like 2K x 1080
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[twitchyzero]

battlefield 3 and total war shogun 2 favour nvidia cards so I would suggest the GTX 660Ti
you can get a steady 50fps with everything maxed out at that resolution with this card

EA/2k sports gamesare just console ports so yeah it'll run fine on anything.

if you wanna closer to run it at silky 60 fps and just overall a better futureproofing (crazy overclocking headroom) get the AMD 7950

[G-spec]

^ oh ok gotcha, but what is the Nvidia equivalent to the 7950 ?
because I'm only really familiar with that Nvidia Control Panel and wanna stick with them....
I bought a 550 from Mikroft the other month just so I could hook up to my big screen via HDMI, since my generic desktop PC from Future Shop didn't have a HDMI out...

And yes I would like to run 60fps minimum on high or max settings for these types of games

[belaud]

6 pack of beer, wire your computer for you

BTW, 660TI is a better buy then the 7950.

If you want, just PM me, I can sort your entire computer out into perfect balanced order.

(you have the wrong RAM, as well as a really really bad power supply)

And heres one with a GTX690

[G-spec]

^ schaweeeet mercy, isnt that the $1000 video card ??

you gotta deal broski, I'll pm you in a few weeks after I get to correcting the mistakes you pointed out, the ram and the power supply, as well as the case, lol...

the reason my case sucks is self explanatory, shit in there don't fit.... but what's wrong with the power supply and memory ?
which ones would you recommend so I can look into it

[SkinnyPupp]

The memory is wrong because you should be using quad channel (4 sticks) not dual

The power supply I don't think is "really really shitty" but everyone has their own opinions If you are going to replace it, best bet would be to go with Corsair

[G-spec]

^ oh ok, yea i mentioned in my other post above I'm still waiting for the rest of my memory to come in, got 2 more sticks like that for a total of 16gb...
I just stuck the ram in there according to the picture in the Asus motherboard manual, so when the 2 more sticks come in should I pop all 4 sticks into the light tan colored slots or the dark brown ones ?


and the power supply thing, I just looked at the pic and realized it was an OCZ, and when my friend was helping me pick an SSD he told me to stay away from OCZ, so I guess that's a pretty shitty company overall then huh

[SkinnyPupp]

Not really. Their SSDs are currently fine, but have had trouble in the past. But that was probably more due to using SandForce chips before anyone else. SandForce seems to be pretty solid now, but moving forward OCZ is using their own chips (made by Marvell). You can read more in my latest OCZ review: Vertex 4 Review - 256GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD

[G-spec]

^ cool, gotcha, but yea I ended up having my buddy pick up an Intel SSD for me...

but hey one last question guys before I fire this thing up, buddy just brought me the CPU and before I put it in I'm wondering if I have to use this backplate on my mobo, you can see in the back there are holes for it to poke through....




I've seen videos on youtube that say to just use the 4 pins, no backplate required for my particular motherboard, Asus x79 sabertooth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS8c9bZ-zu8

[!MiKrofT]

Mounting plate is to reduce the stress on the mobo. But seeing as you can't fit it you should be ok because the heatsink isn't that heavy to begin with.

[belaud]

Mounting plate is not for LGA2011 socket, your motherboard has its own.

Find short stubby screws that have thinner threading on one side, those are the ones you use. (And from what I seein the picture, you already have them on)

[Jer3]

looking to add some storage to my existing desktop. hows this hdd for reliability etc.

Newegg.ca - Seagate Barracuda Green ST1000DL002 1TB 5900 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Bare Drive -Bare Drive

seems too cheap to pass up