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joquio 02-24-2013 02:57 PM

A picture of my 560 Ti SLI setup.
Please excuse the dust :p

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps047715de.jpg

LuHua 02-26-2013 04:15 PM

Man, all those AIO rigs, I can't wait 'till my H220 comes in. Anyone know if there's a water block for the Gigabyte 660 ti Windforce card? Can't find anything on google.

Akinari 02-27-2013 09:39 AM

Worth it to spend the extra ~$50 on a the Tahiti LE 7870 Powercolor or just go for a standard 7850? Tomshardware says the 7870 Tahiti LE is super power hungry, even more so than the 7950, which makes me uneasy since my PSU is only 500w and I'm running an OC'd PII 965 BE @ 4.0GHz and 1.5v which is also very power hungry.

roastpuff 02-27-2013 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akinari-kun (Post 8171308)
Worth it to spend the extra ~$50 on a the Tahiti LE 7870 Powercolor or just go for a standard 7850? Tomshardware says the 7870 Tahiti LE is super power hungry, even more so than the 7950, which makes me uneasy since my PSU is only 500w and I'm running an OC'd PII 965 BE @ 4.0GHz and 1.5v which is also very power hungry.

I don't think that the 7870 Tahiti is going to be more power hungry than a 7950 considering that it is basically a down clocked version of the same chip. I don't trust Tom's anymore, prefer other sites for reviews and testing.

According to Tweaktown it is about average. If you have a good name 500w PSU you will be fine.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5120/powercolor_pcs_radeon_hd_7870_tahiti_le_2gb_myst_v ideo_card_review/index19.html
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LuHua 02-27-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akinari-kun (Post 8171308)
Worth it to spend the extra ~$50 on a the Tahiti LE 7870 Powercolor or just go for a standard 7850? Tomshardware says the 7870 Tahiti LE is super power hungry, even more so than the 7950, which makes me uneasy since my PSU is only 500w and I'm running an OC'd PII 965 BE @ 4.0GHz and 1.5v which is also very power hungry.

Maybe this will help as a reference CPU Overclocking vs. Power Consumption. Page 16 - X-bit labs

Toms Hardware also ran a 3.9-4.0GHz test bench with a 4870 x2, and that topped off at somewhere around 500W being supplied by the PSU (assuming ~80% efficiency).

Reasonably, I'd say you're probably sitting in the mid to high 300s, maybe 400W range. Personally I'd be looking into a new PSU, but if you purchased a good one, you should be alright for now.

SkinnyPupp 02-27-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akinari-kun (Post 8171308)
Worth it to spend the extra ~$50 on a the Tahiti LE 7870 Powercolor or just go for a standard 7850? Tomshardware says the 7870 Tahiti LE is super power hungry, even more so than the 7950, which makes me uneasy since my PSU is only 500w and I'm running an OC'd PII 965 BE @ 4.0GHz and 1.5v which is also very power hungry.

I'm testing a 7870 right now, and it's not what I would call power hungry. Uses only a few more watts than a 7950 in my tests, no more than 270W at full load using MSI Burn In.

A 500W PSU would be plenty in most cases, however depending on the power draw of your CPU, you might actually run into problems. There are two versions of the 965BE, one is 125W TDP and the other is 140W.

In any cases you should be fine though. If you want to be sure, get a cheap power consumption meter.

Akinari 02-27-2013 10:03 PM

This is the PSU I'm essentially using now, but an OEM version included with my case. Has nearly identical, if not exactly the same specs. It's a pretty weak on 12v with only 18a though, so I won't be adding in another card in a long time. And I have the 125w version of the 965.

eXtreme Power Plus 500W - Cooler Master - Leading Provider of Computer Case, Cooler, Power Supply, Laptop Cooling, Gaming Peripherals

Also, a friend wants to Crossfire 7850s with an Antec NeoPower HE550 with a Core i5 3350P. Dunno where he got this chart but here it is

http://i.imgur.com/4pePfV5.png

Official spec sheet

Antec.com - NeoPower 550 SpecSheet

I'd say he'd really be pushing the envelope, but he's not convinced at all. Now I'm not an expert on PSUs so perhaps it'd be fine.

ForbiddenX 02-28-2013 07:19 PM

Thanks for all the replies about my build problems a page back in this thread.

I ended up switching the Motherboard to an MSI MPower and ran into issues with that... almost the same thing was happening. Was getting A2 errors when trying to boot. I pretty much gave up and returned everything I was able to at ME.

I didn't try switching the PSU at all since I didn't think it was that, it passed the paper clip test and what not.

Turns out it was the power supply. Wasted so much time trying to get this to work lol. Bought the Antec 620W today and everything booted up fine. Installed windows and haven't had any issues so far..

ph0 02-28-2013 08:12 PM

Anyone mind helping me out build a rig for Media Center PC, budget is roughly around $700-$800 , what I got in in mind is something like this:
CPU: i3 or maybe an i5
Intel Core i3 2120 Dual Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 3MB
Intel Core i5 3470 Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.2GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail
Ram: Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B Vengeance Blue 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5in Internal Hard Drive
CD/Drive: ASUS BC-12B1ST Internal 12X Blu-Ray Reader & 16X DVD Writer Combo Drive SATA
Power : Thermaltake TR2 500W Power Supply Cable Management ATX12V V2.3 24PIN With 120mm Fan
Motherboard:
ASUS P8B75-M LE uATX LGA1155 B75 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI SATA3 DVI HDMI USB3.0 Motherboard
or
Gigabyte B75M-D3H mATX LGA1155 B75 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI HDMI CrossFireX SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard

Thinking about probably slapping on a video card as well, any suggestions? thanks :)

twitchyzero 02-28-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForbiddenX (Post 8172888)
Thanks for all the replies about my build problems a page back in this thread.

I ended up switching the Motherboard to an MSI MPower and ran into issues with that... almost the same thing was happening. Was getting A2 errors when trying to boot. I pretty much gave up and returned everything I was able to at ME.

I didn't try switching the PSU at all since I didn't think it was that, it passed the paper clip test and what not.

Turns out it was the power supply. Wasted so much time trying to get this to work lol. Bought the Antec 620W today and everything booted up fine. Installed windows and haven't had any issues so far..

couldn't they just help you test the system out before the refund? or would they charge like diagnosing fee or w/e

SkinnyPupp 02-28-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph0 (Post 8172950)
Anyone mind helping me out build a rig for Media Center PC, budget is roughly around $700-$800 , what I got in in mind is something like this:
CPU: i3 or maybe an i5, not to sure
NCIX - Buy Computers, Computer Parts, Laptops, World's Leading Discount Computer Store
Ram: NCIX - Buy Computers, Computer Parts, Laptops, World's Leading Discount Computer Store
HDD: NCIX - Buy Computers, Computer Parts, Laptops, World's Leading Discount Computer Store
CD/Drive: NCIX - Buy Computers, Computer Parts, Laptops, World's Leading Discount Computer Store
Power : NCIX - Buy Computers, Computer Parts, Laptops, World's Leading Discount Computer Store
Motherboard:
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or
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Thinking about probably slapping on a video card as well, any suggestions? thanks :)

You're going to have to make a better list than that, I'm not clicking on every single link

ph0 02-28-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8173072)
You're going to have to make a better list than that, I'm not clicking on every single link

Just updated the link, totally forgot to format it before posting :failed:

ForbiddenX 02-28-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8173025)
couldn't they just help you test the system out before the refund? or would they charge like diagnosing fee or w/e

I didn't get all of the parts from Memory Express and I think they would've charged me the $40.

But it feels good that everything is finally working.

Been running Prime95 for almost an hour and hitting about 55 degrees with the 3770k stock clocks and the Evo 212

StylinRed 03-01-2013 10:23 PM

is my hard drive dying? (laptop)


lately when unrarring or using par files or photoshop or downloading i'm unable to do anything else (like browse or have a video playing) it's like im unable to multitask

and the reason i think its the hdd is because when the above happens the computer gets hot especially around the hard drive like very hot this hasn't happened before when things were working fine

and i previously, and continue, to have moments where i can't do anything and task manager says the Disk is at 100% (for no raisin!)

when i run chkdsk there are no bad sectors but i get a message saying
"the master file table's (MFT) BITMAP attribute is incorrect."

and im told to run chkdsk /scan to find the problems and queue for repair but when i do no problems are found

Mr.Money 03-02-2013 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8174011)
is my hard drive dying? (laptop)


lately when unrarring or using par files or photoshop or downloading i'm unable to do anything else (like browse or have a video playing) it's like im unable to multitask

and the reason i think its the hdd is because when the above happens the computer gets hot especially around the hard drive like very hot this hasn't happened before when things were working fine

and i previously, and continue, to have moments where i can't do anything and task manager says the Disk is at 100% (for no raisin!)

when i run chkdsk there are no bad sectors but i get a message saying
"the master file table's (MFT) BITMAP attribute is incorrect."

and im told to run chkdsk /scan to find the problems and queue for repair but when i do no problems are found


download "Crystal disk info" it will tell you the health status.

StylinRed 03-02-2013 08:24 AM

^^^ thanks the Health Status is under "caution" and its 50c -_-

roastpuff 03-02-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8174179)
^^^ thanks the Health Status is under "caution" and its 50c -_-

Back it up ASAP. And get a replacement drive... if the failing drive is under warranty still you can RMA it.

Akinari 03-02-2013 02:08 PM

Impulse bought a Logitech G600 from NCIX for $68 after taxes. Whole mouse froze for around ~20 minutes while I was adjusting the dpi settings with LGS and took me ages to hook up my other mouse to uninstall and reinstall the drivers, and reset the corrupted onboard memory :badpokerface:

Finally don't have to use my keyboard for skills in MMOs.

metal 03-04-2013 08:48 AM

Just built a new rig to upgrade from my Q6600 powered one from 2008. Feels phenomenal having a case with some good cable management and a black interior!

Imgur album here:
New PC - Imgur

http://i.imgur.com/fGR5xkwh.jpg

Vs my Antec 900
http://i.imgur.com/scBrK0Sh.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/H5Jd8BAh.jpg

How much do you think I could get for my old one?

Essential specs are:
- Q6600 OC'd to 3.4
- Xigmatek cooler
- Gigabyte ep35-ds3l
- 8GB DDR2
- XFX Radeon HD6850
- 2 500GB HDDs
- Antec 900 case
- Win 7

joquio 03-04-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metal (Post 8175784)
Just built a new rig to upgrade from my Q6600 powered one from 2008. Feels phenomenal having a case with some good cable management and a black interior!

http://i.imgur.com/H5Jd8BAh.jpg

Looking good!!!
I have the same case and it's really awesome.
Just a tip, why don't you move your Hard Disk to the lower rack/bracket and remove the top rack to increase air flow?
I actually removed both of my rack and hid my SSD in the 5.25" bay area.:woot2:

Akinari 03-04-2013 09:45 AM

I might be interested in your 6850 as a temporary replacement for my aging 6770...

In other news, I've finally pinpoint my slow booting Windows GUI "Starting Windows" screen boot issues. I disconnected my HDD and booted up, less than 15 seconds lightning fast! But with HDD connected the quickest I've booted up is 45 seconds.

I'm thinking maybe it's because the HDD is 2.5tb and Windows has to do a system check before booting up to access the drive in the desktop? Any ideas?

roastpuff 03-04-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akinari-kun (Post 8175824)
I might be interested in your 6850 as a temporary replacement for my aging 6770...

In other news, I've finally pinpoint my slow booting Windows GUI "Starting Windows" screen boot issues. I disconnected my HDD and booted up, less than 15 seconds lightning fast! But with HDD connected the quickest I've booted up is 45 seconds.

I'm thinking maybe it's because the HDD is 2.5tb and Windows has to do a system check before booting up to access the drive in the desktop? Any ideas?

I don't know man... I have 3 extra HDD's connected (1.5TB, 2TB and 1.5TB) and it takes me maybe 15 seconds from pressing the button to get into Windows usually. I think it may be your boot order or something else that is causing the issue?

twitchyzero 03-04-2013 10:34 AM

clean build...corsair makes some of the best cases
even their $50 Carbide 200R allows for cable management
i'm very happy with my white 500r...snagged one for $80

metal 03-04-2013 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joquio (Post 8175821)
Looking good!!!
I have the same case and it's really awesome.
Just a tip, why don't you move your Hard Disk to the lower rack/bracket and remove the top rack to increase air flow?
I actually removed both of my rack and hid my SSD in the 5.25" bay area.:woot2:

Suppose I could, but I've just got some extra length of molex cable tucked in there now haha. Air flow seems fine, temps are cool and I'm getting CPU temps of 50* or so at 4.4ghz running prime 95 with fans all set on low!

Akinari 03-04-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 8175829)
I don't know man... I have 3 extra HDD's connected (1.5TB, 2TB and 1.5TB) and it takes me maybe 15 seconds from pressing the button to get into Windows usually. I think it may be your boot order or something else that is causing the issue?

My boot order is correct, which is why I'm totally stumped. I've disabled every other boot device except for my SSD, so theoretically my HDD isn't even in my boot order. But it must be somehow, because if it's taking that long, either the OS is looking for the HDD before booting the SSD, or something else :pokerface:


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