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07-04-2013, 09:32 PM
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Why would you RAID0 an SSD? Transaction rates don't go up at all, latency is already near zero... The only benefit would be moving huge files, but even then you would be read limited from wherever you copy from. And that is giving up a LOT of data security - one drive goes bad, and you lose the whole array.
On the other hand, if you want more than 2 SSDs, you will want to use SATA3 for full speed.
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07-04-2013, 09:53 PM
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#2427 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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Originally Posted by 3klipze  Precisely why I want to stick with IB. the performance difference is negligible . And when it is time to upgrade to another CPU, LGA 1150 will also be out of date already.
Any more though? | Since performance is negligible and price ($20 difference), it makes sense to me to go 4670k/Newer socket.
The thing I hate about Intel is the large number of different sockets.. For example
Friend 1) His 1st/2nd gen Intel i5 motherboard broke, and with the socket dead, there was basically no retailers selling it, and if there was, it was double the price. There was barely any used motherboards.. so he ended up hoping to a new AMD FX build.
Friend 2) His LGA775 motherboard broke (was running a Q6600 which is fine even for today's games), and again the socket was completely obsolete, and no retailers sold it. There were quite a few used LGA775 motherboards, but he didn't wanna deal with it (worried). He ended up going i5 3570k.
If you're really worried about future-proofing, look into an AMD build. The current sockets for FX-series are backward compatible, but I think a completely new socket is coming out soon as well.
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07-04-2013, 09:54 PM
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I'm thinking of returning the z87. I only bought it off impulse. My mutual friend then offered to sell me his 3770k as he heard I'm building a new comp. Quote:
Originally Posted by twitchyzero ^Z87 doesn't bring anything new over Z77
my Z77X-UD5H has 8 USB 3.0 which is more than adequate...one would not need over 2 ports of 6gbps SATA even with SSD RAID...HDD doesn't benefit from Sata 6gbps...anyone thinking of an elaborate SSD setup should save their money as SATA Express is coming
the 3770k won't be compatible on a z87 mobo | I am saving almost 75$ After tax for sticking with IB. So i'm still on the fence with this. Cuz when its time to upgrade, i'll get a new mobo anyways right? Quote:
Originally Posted by gYU Since performance is negligible and price ($20 difference), it makes sense to me to go 4670k/Newer socket.
The thing I hate about Intel is the large number of different sockets.. For example
Friend 1) His 1st/2nd gen Intel i5 motherboard broke, and with the socket dead, there was basically no retailers selling it, and if there was, it was double the price. There was barely any used motherboards.. so he ended up hoping to a new AMD FX build.
Friend 2) His LGA775 motherboard broke (was running a Q6600 which is fine even for today's games), and again the socket was completely obsolete, and no retailers sold it. There were quite a few used LGA775 motherboards, but he didn't wanna deal with it (worried). He ended up going i5 3570k.
If you're really worried about future-proofing, look into an AMD build. The current sockets for FX-series are backward compatible, but I think a completely new socket is coming out soon as well. |
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07-04-2013, 09:58 PM
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I dont think there are much ppl just upgrade the CPU nowadays... even going from Ivy Bridge to Haswell... performance difference is already hardly noticeable other than benchmarks.
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07-05-2013, 01:29 AM
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#2430 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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Originally Posted by Verdasco yes, i will be streaming either 720p or 1080p on twitch.tv via xsplit
jesus christ.... 600w can handle a good graphics card?? The good ole days, it was 750w+ loooool
how much is a good SSD?? i see u guys have the samsung 840....
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07-05-2013, 12:05 PM
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#2431 | | Revscene.net has a homepage?!
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Looks like i'm sticking with Haswell. When Broadwell comes out, i'll probably upgrade again.
Buying the tock!
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07-05-2013, 04:13 PM
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#2432 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by Verdasco | A good 600W PSU can handle a single nVidia card just fine, the current 6xx/7xx generation has fairly low power consumption excepting the Titan/GTX690 etc.
A good SSD is about $120 for 128GB, $180 for 240GB.
Current gen Intel chipset is Z87 or Z77 depending on whether you're going with Haswell or Ivy Bridge.
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07-05-2013, 08:05 PM
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#2433 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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not many people would want to upgrade from 3770k to 4770k, but i am jumping from E7200 o/c to 4770k...definitely feel the diff
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07-05-2013, 08:42 PM
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#2434 | | Revscene.net has a homepage?!
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^ same boat! e8400 3.6ghz oc -> 4670k
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07-06-2013, 01:18 AM
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#2435 | | Banned (BBM)
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First time building. Just ordered ALL my parts today.... Kinda scared lol... Any hints or tips for newbies
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07-06-2013, 01:26 AM
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#2436 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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Originally Posted by G First time building. Just ordered ALL my parts today.... Kinda scared lol... Any hints or tips for newbies | Go through this whole article first, and keep it on hand during the process How to build a PC: The Tech Report guide - The Tech Report - Page 1 | |
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07-06-2013, 01:38 AM
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#2437 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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Originally Posted by G First time building. Just ordered ALL my parts today.... Kinda scared lol... Any hints or tips for newbies | plenty of articles and videos on how to put all the parts together
just take your time and refer to the videos/articles when you need help
honestly after you do it once, building computers really isn't that hard
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07-06-2013, 04:22 AM
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#2438 | | NOOB, Not Quite a Regular!
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Originally Posted by G First time building. Just ordered ALL my parts today.... Kinda scared lol... Any hints or tips for newbies | good luck lol, im probably gonna try to build my next comp
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07-06-2013, 07:46 AM
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#2439 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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very easy to put the parts together, the most difficult.part for 1st time builder is the case to motherboard jumper wires.
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07-06-2013, 10:03 AM
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#2440 | | RS.net, where our google ads make absolutely no sense!
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There is very little need for elbow grease since everything is designed to be ZIF. If you find that you need to apply force, check it again.
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07-07-2013, 07:41 PM
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Plan to get this for my father for birthday: 550P7C-S04 - OVERVIEW | SAMSUNG
It's around CAD1,000+ (HKD8,400 or so...) Just curious if there is anything within that price range that is better?
Also, Skinnypupp, what SSD would you recommend these days (best bang for your buck in the 128-250GB range? I have a Samsung 830 in my desktop and I am quite happy with the performance; but I have been out of the loop in the past year and was avoiding Sandforce drives when I got the 830... With that said, the laptop only has SATA2.
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07-07-2013, 09:08 PM
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#2442 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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Best bang for buck seems to be the Kingston HyperX 3K but it changes all the time... You might not notice it, but that Samsung 830 is probably quite a bit slower than any Sandforce drive you could have gotten, now that it has been in use for a while. Also avoid Crucial m4.
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07-07-2013, 11:00 PM
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#2443 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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quick question for all that can chime in. for my windows experience index, everything is from 7.6-7.8. however, my primary hard disk is at 5.9. this has to do with the disk data transfer rate according to windows. i have a mushkin chronos 128gb sata3 ssd. anyone know why it would be rated so low?
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07-08-2013, 01:39 AM
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#2444 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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whats wrong with m4? i have been using it for.2 yrs, so far so good
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07-08-2013, 01:44 AM
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#2445 | | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
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Originally Posted by asian_XL whats wrong with m4? i have been using it for.2 yrs, so far so good | It's a reliable drive, but it's slower than the SandForce-based offerings.
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07-08-2013, 01:52 AM
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#2446 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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m4 gets REALLY slow once it has been used for a while. Yes, even with TRIM. The fuller it gets, the slower it gets.
Of course compared to an HDD it will always feel lightning fast. But compared to better drives, it will be slower.
It is reliable though! I would use it for a read drive rather than a Windows install drive. Install your programs on it, and forget it. If you have to do a lot of read and write ops, other drives will feel faster.
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07-09-2013, 03:09 PM
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For those running Haswell, what are your temperatures like?
I'm running 4670k stock for now on a 212 Evo and I idling around 29-32 C and full load at 70 C with Intel burn test [Max ram setting]. Ambient temperature is around 20-22 C
Just wanted to see how mine stacks up with other Haswell chips
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07-09-2013, 07:42 PM
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Currently idling at 32-37 with the EVO 212 on my 4570. Ambient temperature 26-27C.
Yes, my house lacks AC and enough windows with screens that would prevent my indoor cat from getting to the outside world.
An update: with ambient temperature around 20C idles around 28-31C now.
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07-09-2013, 09:15 PM
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Idle at 39, load at 57-59. Running stock speed on a corsair h60 set to really slow at idle
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07-10-2013, 09:24 AM
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#2450 | | I answer every Emotion with an emoticon
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OC my i2500k to 4.9
Idles @ 40-45
Load @ 60-65 (at night)
Im on the third floor, so mid-day the temps goes up to 75... lol
running H60
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