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That was a draw... Manny pressed n was faster but he got countered with heavy shots, even tho he took it he never did any major damage. Marquez stood his ground and I think the fight went 6 6 or 5 5 indecisive rounds.... No more fkn comments Posted via RS Mobile
In my gut, I have this feeling that marquez should have won, but I can't really make sense of it..
Statistically pacquiao won the fight.
Threw more, landed more.
Marquez got some really good punches, but there was no visual damage aside from the bleeding inner lip and the cut on his eye from the collision of their heads.
I can't really justify marquez winning, even though I feel like he should have. Posted via RS Mobile
In my gut, I have this feeling that marquez should have won, but I can't really make sense of it..
Statistically pacquiao won the fight.
Threw more, landed more.
Marquez got some really good punches, but there was no visual damage aside from the bleeding inner lip and the cut on his eye from the collision of their heads.
I can't really justify marquez winning, even though I feel like he should have. Posted via RS Mobile
Marquez played the counter-punch through out majority of the fight. Sports experts explained that judges tend to be more generous to aggressive fighters rather than conservative ones.
TBH, I know it's probably a smarter, strategic way to fight but Marquez is such a boring fighter. I kinda wanted to see more offense from him rather than offense-by-defense.
Pac doesn't show good ring iq. He couldn't adapt to JMM's counter and just ended up resetting every time he got countered. He's fast and hits hard, but his quickness peaked a while ago and he doesn't have great boxing skills. Floyd would win nearly every round or finish him in the later rounds for an easy victory.
Manny seemed to obviously be worried of JMM's counter skills. JMM did land some good counter. Hardly any damage shown on Manny though. And as someone mentioned Judges look for aggressiveness AND punches thrown and landed. Statistically Manny clearly won that over the judges.
Not sure why everyones crying that JMM won this by a fucking mile. I mean yes JMM fought a WAY better fight than their last two encounters. I would say JMM should have won that's for sure but it was close in my opinion, if anything a draw should have been called. Whoever was directing the cameras that night licked nuts. Some horrible angles of that fight to view.
Fixed fight? I wouldn't be surprised but if so, then I'm all for it to see Money and Pacman go at it.
Can Pacman take Money? No. I honestly don't think so. Pacman may have the nicest footwork and one of the fastest hands but Money is on another level.
If Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao were two normal fighters, duking it out on a small undercard, Marquez would've walked out the winner Saturday night. The 38-year-old far and away landed more impactful punches and seemed to have an answer to almost every one of Pac-Man's offensives.
But it wasn't enough for two reasons.
The first reason is explained by using the Tao of the Nature Boy, Ric Flair: 'To be the Man, you gotta beat the Man.'
Marquez may have won the fight in many eyes, but in a title fight, you gotta beat the champ. Champions don't lose close fights -- especially ones like Pacquiao.
How Marquez held back for the last two rounds is beyond me. For his corner to tell him to stay the course is one of the worst pieces of advice in the history of big fights. Why not go all out? It's about legacy. He didn't win either of the first two fights and his camp decides to leave it up to the judges? That's silly.
The second and biggest reason is simple economics. There is no way in H-E-double hockey sticks that anyone involved in the boxing world is going to do anything to jeopardize the sport's greatest asset -- the dream fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.
It's the one fight that purists keep holding out hope for and the last great fight that keeps a fading boxing audience hanging around. They're talking about a crowd of over 100,000 in Dallas, for crying out loud. Toss in the pay-per-view gate, and no wonder you keep hearing $100 million dollars as a sort of magic number to get these two in the ring.
Pac doesn't show good ring iq. He couldn't adapt to JMM's counter and just ended up resetting every time he got countered. He's fast and hits hard, but his quickness peaked a while ago and he doesn't have great boxing skills. Floyd would win nearly every round or finish him in the later rounds for an easy victory.
Adapt as in what? Pull a Philadelphia Flyer and combat conservatism with equal conservatism? j/k
I mean, yeah it sucks Manny couldn't do better than a close call (if even that) but from a viewer POV, I appreciate the athlete that was was pushing all night rather than the one who just picks his spots.
I wouldn't pay for another Marquez fight but people will still pay for Manny's. (or at least I can only assume they will)
edit:
darn, I guess I sounded a bit esoteric. to understand the Philadelphia Flyer quip, just see the video below (for non-hockey fans)
well Pac seemed to keep using double right jab then straight left. It wasn't working. JMM would counter and stop Pacs assault. JMM would also move to Pacs right putting Pacs left hand out of range. Pac had to try a different route of attack but he didn't/couldn't hence why i said he didn't adapt to what he was up against. The guy was clearly frustrated and didn't have any answers.