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Old 11-12-2011, 10:07 PM   #26
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The promoters want to do a 4th fight.
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That fight wasn't even close. Marquez definitely won, and this is coming from a Filipino.
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12:58 AM ET: Marquez in locker room: "This is the second robbery of the two fights we've had. This one was even more clear than the first."

12:54 AM ET: Manny to Mayweather: "Let's get it on. Let's make this fight happen."

12:53 AM ET: Manny on fighting him again: "Anytime. I'm a fighter. My job is to fight."

12:52 AM ET: Manny: "Of course they're unhappy, they're fans of Marquez. But I clearly won the fight."

12:51 AM ET: The crowd is hot. Bob Velin says skullduggery is afoot.

12:50 AM ET: Manny Pacquiao def. Juan Manuel Marquez by majority decision.
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Fix was on, get ready for Pac vs Money on May, 05 2012.

Pac and Roach are geniuses they sucked enough against Marquez so that Money will agree to the fight.
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That was a draw... Manny pressed n was faster but he got countered with heavy shots, even tho he took it he never did any major damage. Marquez stood his ground and I think the fight went 6 6 or 5 5 indecisive rounds.... No more fkn comments
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:38 PM   #31
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I mean 5 5 n 2 indecisive
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In my gut, I have this feeling that marquez should have won, but I can't really make sense of it..
Statistically pacquiao won the fight.
Threw more, landed more.
Marquez got some really good punches, but there was no visual damage aside from the bleeding inner lip and the cut on his eye from the collision of their heads.
I can't really justify marquez winning, even though I feel like he should have.
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In my gut, I have this feeling that marquez should have won, but I can't really make sense of it..
Statistically pacquiao won the fight.
Threw more, landed more.
Marquez got some really good punches, but there was no visual damage aside from the bleeding inner lip and the cut on his eye from the collision of their heads.
I can't really justify marquez winning, even though I feel like he should have.
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Marquez played the counter-punch through out majority of the fight. Sports experts explained that judges tend to be more generous to aggressive fighters rather than conservative ones.

TBH, I know it's probably a smarter, strategic way to fight but Marquez is such a boring fighter. I kinda wanted to see more offense from him rather than offense-by-defense.
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Old 11-13-2011, 03:40 AM   #34
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The promoters want to do a 4th fight.
lol wtfs the point.. we all know manny is going to get UD again if they were to fight again

straight out robbery, after tonight im confident may is going to walk down pac

i salute Marquez tho, he was and is always a true boxing warrior with heart

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Old 11-13-2011, 04:28 AM   #35
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Pac doesn't show good ring iq. He couldn't adapt to JMM's counter and just ended up resetting every time he got countered. He's fast and hits hard, but his quickness peaked a while ago and he doesn't have great boxing skills. Floyd would win nearly every round or finish him in the later rounds for an easy victory.
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Fix was on, get ready for Pac vs Money on May, 05 2012.

Pac and Roach are geniuses they sucked enough against Marquez so that Money will agree to the fight.
Exactly, it's just bait to get Money May on board....
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Manny seemed to obviously be worried of JMM's counter skills. JMM did land some good counter. Hardly any damage shown on Manny though. And as someone mentioned Judges look for aggressiveness AND punches thrown and landed. Statistically Manny clearly won that over the judges.

Not sure why everyones crying that JMM won this by a fucking mile. I mean yes JMM fought a WAY better fight than their last two encounters. I would say JMM should have won that's for sure but it was close in my opinion, if anything a draw should have been called. Whoever was directing the cameras that night licked nuts. Some horrible angles of that fight to view.

Fixed fight? I wouldn't be surprised but if so, then I'm all for it to see Money and Pacman go at it.

Can Pacman take Money? No. I honestly don't think so. Pacman may have the nicest footwork and one of the fastest hands but Money is on another level.

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Cybulski: Two reasons why Marquez lost to Pacquiao

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Reminds me of UFC. Dana White always said, "don't leave it in the hands of the judges". It'll go to the aggressor.
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Pac doesn't show good ring iq. He couldn't adapt to JMM's counter and just ended up resetting every time he got countered. He's fast and hits hard, but his quickness peaked a while ago and he doesn't have great boxing skills. Floyd would win nearly every round or finish him in the later rounds for an easy victory.

Adapt as in what? Pull a Philadelphia Flyer and combat conservatism with equal conservatism? j/k

I mean, yeah it sucks Manny couldn't do better than a close call (if even that) but from a viewer POV, I appreciate the athlete that was was pushing all night rather than the one who just picks his spots.

I wouldn't pay for another Marquez fight but people will still pay for Manny's. (or at least I can only assume they will)




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darn, I guess I sounded a bit esoteric. to understand the Philadelphia Flyer quip, just see the video below (for non-hockey fans)

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well Pac seemed to keep using double right jab then straight left. It wasn't working. JMM would counter and stop Pacs assault. JMM would also move to Pacs right putting Pacs left hand out of range. Pac had to try a different route of attack but he didn't/couldn't hence why i said he didn't adapt to what he was up against. The guy was clearly frustrated and didn't have any answers.
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OMG Check this you tube vid.... no wonder why pac cant move that fast

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Okay well that changes things.

Wonder what the rules are for that kind of boxing strategy.
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Okay well that changes things.

Wonder what the rules are for that kind of boxing strategy.
completely legal and it's one of the oldest tricks in the books. Nothing they can do about it at all it's just considered dirty and cheap.
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And that is why I drifted away from boxing years ago.
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sure it's cheap, but he just wasn't quick enough
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This happens because southpaw vs unorthodox

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