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Old 10-23-2011, 06:00 PM   #1
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Richmond rules on modded cars

so, i recently bought a 350z from an RS member thats quite low and living in Richmond really makes it difficult to get around... I was wondering if you guys think it will still look good if i decide to change the suspension and raise it up abit. Any suggestions as to how much i can raise it without making it look ugly are welcome.





and on a 2nd note, its sporting a JIC spartan single exhaust running catless with testpipes. Its loud as fuck and once again, being in richmond, its just asking for a pull over. any suggestions as what i can do to minimize the sound? the car is sporting an ATI supercharger for those that need to know. I asked the original owner and he said there is no silencer available for this muffler.
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Your ride height isn't going to be an issue in Richmond by itself. But driving around with a loud exhaust will get unwanted attention of police, and from there they will continue to pick your car apart to find anything that could be potentially be illegal.

But the biggest factor is your driving style. Drive like an ass with a car that sounds / looks like that in Richmond, will get you a VI no problem. I drove around a slammed 240 with test pipe for years in richmond, and never had one problem.

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You sure there's no silencer for that version of the Spartan? The Spartan DE has an inner silencer available for it. Otherwise, consider changing to an exhaust setup with one available.
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Your ride height isn't going to be an issue in Richmond by itself. But driving around with a loud exhaust will get unwanted attention of police, and from there they will continue to pick your car apart to find anything that could be potentially be illegal.

But the biggest factor is your driving style. Drive like an ass with a car that sounds / looks like that in Richmond, will get you a VI no problem. I drove around a slammed 240 with test pipe for years in richmond, and never had one problem.

Nice Z33 btw!

good to know my ride height is not "illegal" cuz i was really worried about that but it seems really difficult to get by just anywhere in Richmond without hearing a good "schrussh" on the bottom of my bumper. Thats why i prefer to save myself the grief and just replace suspension with less drop but i wanna know people's opinion if it will still look good or is my current ride height the perfect height already.

I am not an ass when i drive as i am in fact a matured driver. over 20 years of driving experience with no accidents and/or speeding tickets. i am by no means someone who rips or does burn outs just becuz im riding a built car but i am definitely concerned about a possible VI as i have heard horror stories. I would rather keep it safe and avoid any possibility of pull overs. Its a shame to have to remove parts as the original owner took the effort and time to actually build a car that compliments each part. I respect the build he did and therefore taking good care of it but unfortunately the environment I live in is a little more hostile to cars like these.
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You sure there's no silencer for that version of the Spartan? The Spartan DE has an inner silencer available for it. Otherwise, consider changing to an exhaust setup with one available.

I honestly dont know. Im just going based on what he said. I will definitely asked driverhard tomorrow what they can do about it but if there is a silencer for this muffler im jumping on that in a heartbeat.
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From my understand, isn't it legal as long as it's not rubbing and the wheels aren't cambered the fuck out?
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im pretty sure you're safe suspension wise...looks like a good 1-2 finger gap there
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headlight must be higher than 53 cm and it cant have body part touching the ground when all the tires are flat
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great lookin car, previous owner is a NiCLUB member...

and OP not trying to offend, but one look at this car and one should know what it's about, low mean and aggressive, didn't you think about what life with this type of car would be like before you bought it ? because sounds like you have a problem with pretty much everything the car is about

the car itself isn't even that low, but that ings front bumper you got there lucky for you that's probably the lowest bumper you could put on a 350z, compared to all the other aftermarket bumpers that one is super low, my suggestion to you would be don't touch the ride height, unless you wanna be stuck with fcked up suspension settings like camber, etc.... looks like previous owner made it a point to extract the maximum grip from it since it's supercharged, my guess is all the suspension is on point and if you do shit to it, possibly askin for a fck up

But if you wanna make things easier for yourself, opt out for a different front bumper one that's not quite as low as the Ings, other than that this car should be fine to drive around anywhere in the city, I daily drive my car with less tire than you and much lower than you and I have no issues whatsoever, neither does my wifey she drives it as well, so man up brah
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good to know my ride height is not "illegal" cuz i was really worried about that but it seems really difficult to get by just anywhere in Richmond without hearing a good "schrussh" on the bottom of my bumper. Thats why i prefer to save myself the grief and just replace suspension with less drop but i wanna know people's opinion if it will still look good or is my current ride height the perfect height already.

I am not an ass when i drive as i am in fact a matured driver. over 20 years of driving experience with no accidents and/or speeding tickets. i am by no means someone who rips or does burn outs just becuz im riding a built car but i am definitely concerned about a possible VI as i have heard horror stories. I would rather keep it safe and avoid any possibility of pull overs. Its a shame to have to remove parts as the original owner took the effort and time to actually build a car that compliments each part. I respect the build he did and therefore taking good care of it but unfortunately the environment I live in is a little more hostile to cars like these.
You should look into getting a silencer, or maybe replacing the exhaust, if it's really that loud. Other than that you should be fine!
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I wouldn't change anything. Just enjoy this setup, don't drive like an ass and you won't get a ticket/VI. If you do get a VI, then use that opportunity to change things up a bit.
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There are a few cops on this forum that usually post in there, Skidmark is one, maybe try to PM to him and ask instead to ask people who dont know the answer and make guesses..
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asking a cop is pretty useless


they'd tell u every god damn thing is illegal

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if u were so god damn worried, why on earth did u even buy this car in the first place my god


werent u all worried 10 months ago selling ur A4 or some shit a little while ago than picked up a m3?

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I would just change exhaust. I had amuse R1000 on my 370z which is almost identical design. It's not worth it.
I tried to weld in couple resonators, for my case, no muffler shop will do it cuz it's really thin titanium.
But your case, it will be pretty expensive to weld 3 or 4 resonators.
Also, each resonator would only bring down 2~3dB at most. I know JIC exhaust being really loud i think it will be still loud.
And i think your ride height is just fine.

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heard ur car leavin chevron in rmd,u were rippin it on westminster hwy
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heard ur car leavin chevron in rmd,u were rippin it on westminster hwy
lol if you think that was rippin it then its obviously too loud. i was feathering the gas and i was switching gears at 2500rpm. the fastest ive gone with this car is 60km/h and 100km/h on the highway. the supercharger is freshly built so it still needs a break in period.
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^ just take her for a rip at night or something, take her up to 250kmh +


btw Richmond cops are assholes. Got a ticket for "aftermarket exhaust" and no front plate. It was after the revscene summer meet actually. I was driving totally normal, cop was just a big douche. I disputed the ticket of couse...
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There are a few cops on this forum that usually post in there, Skidmark is one, maybe try to PM to him and ask instead to ask people who dont know the answer and make guesses..
It's clearly stickied at the top of the police forum not to pm them. Besides, all they'll do is confirm the legalities concerning modified cars listed in the MVA.

Living in Richmond, you'll likely get pulled over for the cage, just so police can take a closer look and confirm nothing is illegal. Welcome to life with a heavily modified car, there are sacrifices.
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you picked up a sweet ride! hope you take good care of it just like my buddy did
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The cheapest fixes you can do is first, ditch the test pipe and put on a stock or high flow cat. That will lessen the exhaust by a few db's.
Next, if the exhaust has no silencer, then try getting another exhaust. Get one with some resonators which will lower a few more db's.

Lastly, I highly recommend you taking out the cage. I don't see any SAE padding and those metal pipes will do a lot of damage if your unprotected head hits them in the event of an accident. That and if you get stopped at a road block, that cage is an invite for trouble especially since it is bright blue.
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Get the cats back in if you want it to be "legal"
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any idea how much it is to remove a roll cage? i believe its the cusco bolt on one so its not welded.
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^ if it's a cusco bolt in, you can take it out yourself or with the help of a buddy.

like mentioned before, so long as you drive in a mature manner and take it easy on the throttle you'll be fine. i've lived in richmond my entire "driving life" and haven't had a whole lot of issues. for your sake, i hope your driving record is relatively clean or it's just an excuse for the rcmp to pull you over and hassle you.

as for ride height, are they not coilovers? if it's height adjustable, and i'm guessing it is on a car like this, i'd raise it up a max of 1 inch. the wheel gap you have now looks sufficient but an inch up wouldn't be all that bad. you would have to get your alignment done again though if you change the height to any extent.
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^ if it's a cusco bolt in, you can take it out yourself or with the help of a buddy.

like mentioned before, so long as you drive in a mature manner and take it easy on the throttle you'll be fine. i've lived in richmond my entire "driving life" and haven't had a whole lot of issues. for your sake, i hope your driving record is relatively clean or it's just an excuse for the rcmp to pull you over and hassle you.

as for ride height, are they not coilovers? if it's height adjustable, and i'm guessing it is on a car like this, i'd raise it up a max of 1 inch. the wheel gap you have now looks sufficient but an inch up wouldn't be all that bad. you would have to get your alignment done again though if you change the height to any extent.


yea its a cusco bolt on so ill try taking it out with a buddy. i have a clean record with no speeding tickets or any history so i should be good. i think my main concern is the muffler sound. its definitely too loud so ill try to get that resolved first. unfortunately the suspension is not coilovers so i cannot adjust height. thanks for the advice as well.
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