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Old 12-04-2011, 10:27 PM   #1
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Looking for C63 AMG owners

I have been toying with the idea of getting rid of my truck in the spring, and getting one. Was thinking 09/10, as I don't know if I can justify spending 80k on a car....yet I can on a truck, so it's not out of the question. Just looking for opinions from owners about their cars. Issues, likes, dislikes, etc. was also thinking about the RS6, but I have love the look and sound of the C63 since I first saw one. Thanks guys!
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I don't own a C63, yet I can say if you like trucks then AMG is the way to go. AMG is consistently reviewed as the muscle car of the Audi RS/BMW M trio. Lots of power and torque, quick off the line - yet like a truck, not as good in the twisties as the other 2.
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I have been toying with the idea of getting rid of my truck in the spring, and getting one. Was thinking 09/10, as I don't know if I can justify spending 80k on a car....yet I can on a truck, so it's not out of the question. Just looking for opinions from owners about their cars. Issues, likes, dislikes, etc. was also thinking about the RS6, but I have love the look and sound of the C63 since I first saw one. Thanks guys!
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c63amg and getting decent gas mileage....not in the same sentence especially with that 6.2L v8..this thing is thirsty, so expect to be filling up quite a bit, especially if you can't keep your foot off the go pedal
Its a great car, has lots of power that you have to be careful with it in the rain in the sense that if you punch it from a dig you will get sideways reallll quick...but with that said it will drive like any other car if you want it to, don't push down the accelerator more than half way and its perfectly tame...
In regards to any issues, there aren't really many, cam position sensor is one floating around the interwebs, the motor is pretty bulletproof, no issues with the tranny unless you plan on tracking it hard
Also its not the greatest in the snow so it would be best if you had a winter vehicle, BUT you can drive it in the snow with winter tires, as many people do down south and on the east coast, I'm not saying its impossible...but winter tires is a must

O and don't forget about maintenance/insurance, it is not cheap so do your research before purchasing...definitely more costly than any truck, and I didn't know they had rs6's here in North America (at least not the newer gens)
I know c63jai on here is also an owner, maybe he'll chime in or pm him
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Just go to a bbt tea place at night and ask the honger kid with a c63 what they feel about their parent's car.
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When you purchase a car like C63 , bmw M5 ....

the least of your worries is gas when you have the money to fork out for a 70-90g car.

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love the car, went to dealerships to work on deals quite a few times.
at the last, i just could not imagine 250km per tank gas mileage.
it would be a great weekend downtown shopping cart, but never a daily commuter.
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i get 240 km out of a 65L tank


edit: mostly city driving though
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i get 240 km out of a 65L tank


edit: mostly city driving though

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Old 12-05-2011, 12:35 AM   #14
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I usually get about 350kms a tank. But if I had to do it all over again I would still go for a c63, its somewhat understated, but when called upon you can hoon to your heart's content. Certainly the handling isn't as crisp as say the e92 m3, but the c63 isn't exactly a slouch in the corners either, and to me at least has an unmistakable character.

So far only big issue I encountered was an issue when the car was below half a tank sometimes the fuel wouldn't transfer properly but after getting the fuel pumps replaced no problems at all.

Minor issues: squeaky folding mirrors replaced under warranty. The nappa leather while soft to the touch can wear down if not treated properly. This issue primarily shows up on the front seat bolsters when entering exiting the car.

The car loves to eat oil, as I assume it uses the oil to create a protective barrier to line the cylinders expect to at least top off your oil every half a year with 5w40. Service costs in general for regular maintenance are somewhere in the order of 600-1000 a year depending on if its a major or minor service.

rare major issues:
-I know jeffield mak's car pretty much had to get the entire engine replaced. I can't speak for him personally, but from what I believe it was due to the fact that he removed all the cats and as a result the o2 sensors paired with his oe tuning chip likely sent some bad timing/air fuel info to the engine. Be forewarned, if your engine blows to have it replaced new from factory including labor,it will cost you easily $50 000, which is another possible reason mercedes transitioned into the new 5.4 v8tts.

-Josh the driver of the evosport widebody "silver dragon" had to replace his entire transmission as it blew due to repeated brake stands and hard launches. If i recall correctly it cost him about 9grand.

-There was a tsb which affected earlier c63s where the headgaskets would have to be replaced, but for the most part the majority of the c63 community has not had any problems with this.


However, that being said, the m156 powerplant has been mostly flawless save for a fruitless class action lawsuit that fizzled, there are c63s running around with 140 000+kms and still going strong. Currently there are a number of 6.2v8s running weistec superchargers pumping out around 670whp with no issues. Obviously its early on right now but the 6.2L v8 is a pretty stout engine.

Complaints: Since the car runs some funny offsets, its quite difficult to find a wheel that will exhibit nice concavity. Some wheel manufacturers like adv or forgestar have gotten some decent setups but for the most part I find the stock wheels are more aesthetically pleasing than most aftermarket wheel offerings due to the big positive offsets merc runs in the c63.

-When tracking, when driven hard in M mode the car has a tendency to go into limp mode due to the transmission protecting itself from overheating. This can be remedied with the installation of a transmission cooler, but for everyday use, including hard spirited driving, the c63 is unflappable.

General Impressions/recommendations:

As for the car itself a limited slip diff and chip really wake the car up. Currently I'm running a eurocharged v3 chip puportedly puts out roughly 520-540hp on 94 octane and a quaife torison lsd. Granted the car isn't going to carve up any mountain roads, but it handles well, easy to control slides and the steering is highly communicative.

Another word of advice if you do decide on a c63, swap off the terrible pirelli pzeros asap. Certainly their grip and characteristics are great when new, but they die easily within 10 000kms or less. Currently I'm running Michelin SuperSports 235 fronts 265 rears but you can fit up to 275s/285s in the rear depending on the tire brand you purchase. Wider tires in the rears will definately help your off the line grip.

To sum up likes:
-the raw punch you in the face feeling the c63 can call upon at a moments notice,
-the cold startup engine note and how it sounds at full bore.
-the form hugging front seats
-the steering feel
-somewhat more practical (although fitting 5 fully grown adults into a c63 is not a comfortable proposition)

I hope my brief summary has helped.
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That was very informative, thank you very much turbomelon. What year is your c63?. As for the rest of you, I literally had to go back and re-read my initial post. I never ONCE mentioned gas mileage. Why did 5 people immediately tell me it was a bad idea because of gas mileage? People on here can be retarded.
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^woah chill out bro, you did ask for a advice on a car, hence gas mileage was mentioned as part of an informative advice
if you are so irritated enough to call people retarded for mentioning gas mileage, then you should have just mentioned in your original post that its your least concern

p.s: no one even said it was neccessarily a 'bad' idea strictly due to the gas mileage..
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I asked about the car, I never mentioned gas mileage. I wasn't asking about a corolla or a civic, I'm asking about a merc with a huge gas guzzling engine.
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Had a few AMG sedans before, both naturally aspirated and supercharged Problem is that if you want to go somewhere quickly, with our often wet roads, they don't have enough traction and you end up spinning your wheels not going anywhere, seeing the yellow triangle (traction control light) flashing.

Perfectly safe, but just not very efficient when you need to pass.

I find it easier to go fast in city driving with a E550 4Matic than a E63 or E55. The AMGs really shine in the dry, especially on the highway. Nice and quiet yet super fast. Perfect for LA but I'm not as convinced they are that much fun in Pacific NW.

Great effortless speed, but not enough traction. If I were to go for another one of these high powered cars in Vancouver, I would look for AWD. But did I mention I love the interior of the AMGs, the nappa leather smells so nice...
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i get 240 km out of a 65L tank


edit: mostly city driving though
i get 290km out of a 66L tank

also city driving hehe -2 cylinder ftw ! loll
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Just go to a bbt tea place at night and ask the honger kid with a c63 what they feel about their parent's car.
Or go to Twinkle 2 and ask Jeffield. He's there evvveerrryday
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That was very informative, thank you very much turbomelon. What year is your c63?. As for the rest of you, I literally had to go back and re-read my initial post. I never ONCE mentioned gas mileage. Why did 5 people immediately tell me it was a bad idea because of gas mileage? People on here can be retarded.
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Glad I could be of some help, my c63 is a 2009MY, purchased it back in the fall of 2008. As of today I have about 40 000 kms on the odometer. One thing I forgot to add, the 2010+ c63s have the p31 performance/development package which features an ecu tune, forged pistons, the crankshaft from the sls and a few other lighter engine internals is a nice thing to have. Essentially from factory, it provides nearly identical performance to aftermarket tune only c63s despite its claimed 481hp.

If you are getting a pre-2010 model I would personally would recommend avoiding the p30 performance package as the suspension is in my opinion far too harsh for street driving and in many cases the suspension setup of the p30 performance package c63s results in worse laptimes due to the car being more twitchy/bouncing around.

Also, with the limited slip diff install, if you're going aftermarket keep in mind the installation costs will range between $1300-2000 depending on the skill/familiarity of your mechanic with c63s as you have to disassemble the entire rear end. But I can't emphasize enough how improved the c63 is with the inclusion of a limited slip diff even in daily driving. The factory offered lsd is decent, however a quality unit from quaife or clutch based unit from os giken in my opinion are even better.
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Over C63.....Never really liked the c63. Looks bland and boring and you see them everywhere

They both have the same amenities minus some bells and whistles in the amg but they both do the same thing the difference is that The C63 pulls it off like a brute, while the Jag does it with elegance

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thats not really the same class of car, the jag is more comparable with an E-Class, or maybe even an S-Class
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Same amount of power ( give or take)
Same price range



The jag is a little bigger.....it's border line comparable with the e class and C
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