pay me and i will get you jacked or drive me around in your sexy cars and i will pose shirtless lol

Sorry to break it to you, but you are going to fail :(

lol i just got a program made by a "professional bodybuilder" got the basic supplements I need ready to go (no2, multi, glucosamine for the bones, efa's, bcaa, and creatine. Going to take 5g pre and 5g post workout of creatine (I know most only take 5.) lets see if i can hit my goals.

I can't handle doing barbell bench press anymore. My shoulder gets destroyed and I can't work out properly for days after that. I'm going to stick with db flat bench press. Going to try to do 120's by end of November :blush:

^^ Use parallel grip on your DB presses. Barbell bench press is a really outdated exercise, I am surprised people still do it so often when there are more effective, safer alternatives. I guess everyone needs to be able to answer "so how much do you bench"? (answering in PLATES of course ;))

It's addictive man! The caffeine is from green tea, so it doesn't make you jittery at all, even at 4 or 5 scoops (which is 100-125mg of caffeine). The amino profile isn't the greatest (IMO it should have more leucine, and don't even bother wasting time with a tiny amount of beta alanine, you need like 8-10g a day for it to be effective) but as a basic "pick me up" drink I do like it.

i pretty much gave up flat benching and just focused more on upper and lower i can only bench 165 as a max for upper chest (i weigh 170ish)

Okay just what I needed. someone to doubt me especailly a mod. (serious)

I will update weekly on progress. 60 days. :D

day #1 215lbs 9/20/2010


does parallel make it easier on shoulders?

Well if you are buying into the whole "calories in/calories out" then you won't get very far. ;)

Also, be sure to do measurements and bodyfat, as those are way more important than overall weight. You'll want the following:

Chest (just above the nipples)
Shoulders (around the widest part)
Hips (across the butt)
Waist (narrowest part)
Belly (handles, widest part)
Thighs (right in the middle between your knee and hip)
Arms (widest part, unflexed)
Forearms (widest part)
Calves

And yeah, parallel is infinitely better for your shoulders.

1) big mac for breakfast
2) starve rest of the day
3) lol @ skinnypupp for saying I couldn't lose weight
4) bulk with celltech
5) compete at arnold classic

not how its done? :D:p

I havent done bench press in a LONG time, but my chest is still getting stronger fo sho

I dont think you can do it either :p

pretty solid workout day, took the controlled labs samples cant complain its good stuff

lol why muscle tech celltech

best suggestion anyone has ever given me. normally after chest my shoulders are fucked! no soreness today! feels good man :D

Same, I've been doing DB Flat Bench for awhile now and surprisingly haven't plateaued with it just yet.

so......

after 2 years of doing squats on a smith machine , today i did squats in a real cage

dear lord it is 1,000,000x different

love it though...could only do 225 but damn it felt good

lol now you must be regretting wasting those 2 years on smith machine

Can you elaborate on the benefits of the caffeine from the green tea? This sounds like a good pre-workout shake that I don't have to worry about affecting my sleep.

I don't even know if that's why it is less 'jittery' for me, it was just a guess pretty much :lol

We know green tea is good for you, whether the caffeine from green tea is good, who really knows. But it's definitely less jittery than I usually get from caffeine.

absolutely....the old gym i used to go to only had a smith machine

new gym has a proper rack and im loving it

I go to the gym today and I see a guy racking up 4 plates in the squat rack. I think to myself, wow, impressive weight, I wonder what his form is like.

Stupid cuntbag does 3 reps where he goes down about 5" (so his legs.. MAYBE 10 degrees) and reracks. It wasn't even a half squat. It was maybe a quarter squat.

What does he do next? Oh, he starts piling on another plate for 5 plates. Sits down and "rests" and does his stupid retard squat.

Next he proceeds to the leg press machine and gathers up EVERY SINGLE FUCKING 45 plate in the gym and loads it on. Surprise surprise, he does quarter reps.

WTF.

actually quarter squats (and other lifts using more weight than your 1RM) can be very beneficial. I know they're part of my program eventually.

Not saying that's what he was doing, but it's a possibility!

Correct. Partial squats have their place, does not mean you disregard everything else though. Keep tight, strong back arch, elbows, etc...

And they take a beating on you so not something you do on the regular.

But you can tell pretty quickly if he is indeed working on partials or if hes just loading on plates for the sake of doing so.

Wait, I should probably point out that my viewpoint is in regards to PL not BB which I know jackshit.

Yeah apparently it's in the strength building part of my program.

I'm surprised at how sore my abs get, considering I do no ab work at all. I guess that means I would benefit from strengthening my abs...
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partials are useful in getting over a sticking point/plateau(rack pulls, board press, OH press from pins) but i seriously doubt that's what the guy dafonz saw was doing. the guy seems like a quarter squat all the time person. he probably had chicken leg to boot.


ass to grass all the way. best way to get crazy legs like an oly lifter.

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