im having a hard time picturing what you are talking about, are you saying you are rolling your wrists back? i try to keep the bar in direct line with my fore-arm. and i dont squeeze the bar more than i need to, to hang onto it
seems like just using more oxygen to not get any real benefit to me

Imagine your mind fully conscious while u CANT MOVE ANYTHING IN UR BODY cant speak nothing u think ur screaming but nothings coming out its fucked... its like some demons are holding u down and possessing u and u CANT DO SHIT fuarrkk shit was scary couldn't fall back asleep again lol

Fark..dieting isn't going well. Splurged on pizza.

On the positive side - OH Presses increased to 105.

ok think of it like this. the whole arm/wrist is supposed to be 180 degrees right. so just straight. but now visualize starting from the elbow (if you're in a bench press position) , so so far the arm is straight as i go up, but now where my wrist is , instead of it being straight all the way to my finger tips, my wrist and hand cave inwards like into a 45 degree and that's how i hold it. so instead of my wrist being 180 degrees with my arm, its more like..135 degrees.

they dont roll back, they're tilted so like my right hand/wrist tilts to the left, and my left hand/wrist tilts in to the right.

another way to visualize it is, my knucks should be facing up and straight right ? but instead they are facing like this " / " instead of " l "

Happens to me, you just have to recognize the fact that your positioning is not correct and readjust before the next rep.

i feel like the only way i can hold the weight tho is LIKE that. i'd have to start from light in order to re-do everything and get use to using a proper straight form :/

That can be a good thing
I corrected my bench once and it was weaker to start but in the long run got better and way stronger
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And instead of switching straight over, switch to neutral grip DB press for a while first. Better for strength, hypertrophy, and pretty much everything other than being able to answer "so what do u bench bro?" ;)
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I agree, it's tough to accept going lighter for a bit, but worthwhile in the long run. I've dropped down to lighter weights a couple times to correct my form on different lifts.

Yup, helps to keep in mind what I wrote a few pages back. Numbers in themselves are completely irrelevant.
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Guys, ever deadlift and you KNOW you can pull it but you just can't because your grip is gone? I had this issue a couple days ago during my last set, doing the heaviest I could do. Did it for one rep, felt my grip slipping then tried it a second and couldn't because I couldn't hold it. People may recommend straps but I'd maybe like to do that once I get to heavier numbers?

Don't know what to do!

When that happens I use mixed grip
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you shouldn't go heavy on deadlift for last set, go lighter back is more tired and so is grip

I'd usually start off with compound movements then go to isolation when doing hypertrophy
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^ that kinda depends on what neggo is working on improving i would say

have you tried chalk? its much less gay than straps

95% will answer back chalk
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Use straps for last set? Jeffh, if you need straps you need em, I wouldnt call that gay…

DL i always use mixed grip.

Dont you work your way up to a heavy set and then back down the pyramid again?
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Thats a type of training. Thats what I do, but there are other methods.

Beeen doing this since i got off the 5x5 program
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I can barely walk today. Feeeeellllsgoooooodman.

fuck failed 2nd and 5th set of 385 squats on last rep... need to eat moarrrrr

if you trained without straps from the beginning, your grip would be strong enough to go without, my everything else gives out before i stop being able to hold onto the bar
i use chalk on everything after 315lb's tho

I'm at 180lbs right now.

Berz I added you on FB.

You guys doing DL's, try standing on a an olympic plate when doing them. I just started that last month and the added range of motion really adds to the lift big time.

I noticed that my shoulder has begun to have some pain when I bench, or when I move it. This happened after I squatted. Does this have something to do with the joints or something? I really don't want to have that problem that most people have with benching. :concentrate: