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Old 01-17-2013, 11:08 AM   #23751
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Anyone know the best way to work on cardio WITHOUT spending too many calories.
I was thinking HIIT, since you arent running for long periods of time.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:13 AM   #23752
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Anyone know the best way to work on cardio WITHOUT spending too many calories.
I was thinking HIIT, since you arent running for long periods of time.
What are you trying to achieve from doing "cardio" while burning as few calories as possible?

HIIT would actually cause you to burn more calories (intervals), than a steady state "jog" if you're doing both for the same duration.
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just finished my workout, fat gripz works. My forearms were burning so badly. They are a pain when you got to go to the washroom, and they got the rubber smell.
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Im trying to bulk, but get my cardio up to a level where I dont feel like dying if I had to do some cardio activities with friends for fun.
Of course 5 min of HIIT (5 mins of running) will burn more than 5 mins of jogging.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:31 AM   #23757
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Im trying to bulk, but get my cardio up to a level where I dont feel like dying if I had to do some cardio activities with friends for fun.
Of course 5 min of HIIT (5 mins of running) will burn more than 5 mins of jogging.


when you bulk, your gonna gain fat so your cardio will be shit. You can only choose one thing at a time.

Bulk first and then start cutting by doing cardio. Your cardio will improve way more than before because you made gains
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when you bulk, your gonna gain fat so your cardio will be shit. You can only choose one thing at a time.

Bulk first and then start cutting by doing cardio. Your cardio will improve way more than before because you made gains
or, he can live a "normal" healthy lifestyle without having such fluctuations in his weight/ body composition. Honestly, unless you are going to compete, why would you bother living a lifestyle of a "body builder".
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my strengths/lifts has gone up well but i dont have the "size" to show it.

Anything I can do to look bigger without using protein shakes? I have been eating lots too


edit: misspelled "without"

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my strengths/lifts has gone up well but i dont have the "size" to show it.

Anything I can do to look bigger with using protein shakes? I have been eating lots too
how many reps are you generally doing? muscle hypertrophy, in general, is best achieved from 8-12 reps, even upwards to 15.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:25 PM   #23761
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or, he can live a "normal" healthy lifestyle without having such fluctuations in his weight/ body composition. Honestly, unless you are going to compete, why would you bother living a lifestyle of a "body builder".
yeah thats what I do

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my strengths/lifts has gone up well but i dont have the "size" to show it.

Anything I can do to look bigger with using protein shakes? I have been eating lots too
what do you mean by that? You could increase the amount of scoops you take if you dont eat enough.
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Anyone know the best way to work on cardio WITHOUT spending too many calories.
I was thinking HIIT, since you arent running for long periods of time.
why is this all so complicated for so many people? want to keep your calorie surplus for bulking, but get some cardio improvement so you don't collapse after 5 minutes of pond hockey as well?


eat an extra fucking sammich and go for a run.


most of us in here are training at like 50% capacity. making small adjustments are not going to change a damn thing in our progress.
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Got eight hours of sleep today and I feel amazing. I destroyed bi's/tri's today.

225 close grip bench x 4-5 reps for two sets
I want 10 reps for this and at least three sets before I increase weight.

Also threw in some JM presses with light weight 8-12 reps, gotta keep trying em out.
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@recon: misspelled without lol. Anyway to look "bigger" without protein shakes (or any supplements)?

@blueg2: about 5-8 reps per set. Then I move up weights. I am doing a modified 5x5 workout
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my strengths/lifts has gone up well but i dont have the "size" to show it.

Anything I can do to look bigger without using protein shakes? I have been eating lots too


edit: misspelled "without"
how much weight do you gain A month
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Stick to HIIT for cardio year round. It's more effective and efficient than steady state. I don't recommend bulking only and not doing cardio. Do cardio 1-2 times a week to maintain some sort of conditioning if your main goal is to gain weight.
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@recon: misspelled without lol. Anyway to look "bigger" without protein shakes (or any supplements)?

@blueg2: about 5-8 reps per set. Then I move up weights. I am doing a modified 5x5 workout
You should move up reps. for hypertrophy you want to get into about 10-12 reps, at least. Some people may be able to gain size doing 5 reps only, but everyone is different. If 5 isn't working for you, you need to up the reps
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Train like a powerlifter on your first exerciese then train like a bodybuilder on your accessory exercise. My rep range for accessory exercises are anywhere from 8-20 reps.

You'll be silly not to do any conditioning work even if youre trying to gain weight. Just look at all the strongmen. Some may look fat as fuck but their GPP is amazing. Simple complexes after workouts are short, easy and effective.
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Train like a powerlifter on your first exerciese then train like a bodybuilder on your accessory exercise. My rep range for accessory exercises are anywhere from 8-20 reps.

You'll be silly not to do any conditioning work even if youre trying to gain weight. Just look at all the strongmen. Some may look fat as fuck but their GPP is amazing. Simple complexes after workouts are short, easy and effective.
hence, why a program like layne norton, that combines powerlifting sessions and hypertrophy sessions together in the same microcycle would be beneficial.

If you want your muscle fibers to grow bigger and look fuller, you gotta tear them up.. and a great way to do that if not the only way, is to go to failure at moderately heavy resistance loads. I would only do this on the last few sets so that you are able to sustain your energy throughout the session
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Train like a powerlifter on your first exerciese then train like a bodybuilder on your accessory exercise. My rep range for accessory exercises are anywhere from 8-20 reps.

You'll be silly not to do any conditioning work even if youre trying to gain weight. Just look at all the strongmen. Some may look fat as fuck but their GPP is amazing. Simple complexes after workouts are short, easy and effective.
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I like that approach too. I do 4 main powerlifting lifts as well (OHP - monday, Deads - tuesday, Bench - thursday and Squat-friday) + 1 or 2 assistance exercises.. Works for me!
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i bought 20lbs of that back a few months after i started
my weight went up like 3-5lbs
i hate the taste of it, but then again i never liked the taste of any shakes i've tried
i wouldn't buy any mass gainers again, taste isn't great, and it's expensive
i'd rather just eat more
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