You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Computer Tech, Gaming & ElectronicsTHIS SPACE OPEN FOR ADVERTISEMENT. YOU SHOULD BE ADVERTISING HERE! Silicon Valley.
Tips & tricks, tech support, home theatre, online gaming, reviews, latest news...
^ Last time you claimed this you said you were going to post a video showing what you're talking about. You never did. I'm going to post up my video showing exactly what I just described later today. Posted via RS Mobile
But you have to admit, it's pretty awesome at that.
My iPad2 was a gift, so I don't feel so bad, but it really just sits around until i want to play some stupid games.
It is VERY awesome at that. I have no problem saying that, and I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to do that! I use it for that all the time. My wife loves playing with it.
But if you think it's any good for productivity at all, you are a liar and/or an idiot.
Not sure why you think I would make this up though lol
Not sure why you think I would make up something like you offering to prove (via video) something I called you out on.
Here's my video of my 4S (as promised) and instead of switching between e-mail and a PDF I also threw in a third program, Keynote. Pay attention to the horrible load times for the second PDF and switching. It's unbearable to use.
Like switching back and forth between apps. Every time I try to be productive with it, it ends up being frustrating. For instance I was helping someone proofread a presentation, so I was switching between the pdf file and the email. Every time I switched to the pdf, it would have to load the whole file over again. So that's like 5 seconds of lag for every app switch. Same thing happened to me while trying to switch between a stopwatch app and data entry.
The extra ram will help for sure. This stuff would have been literally impossible with the first iPad. The second can do it, but not productively. The third might be "better" due to finally having enough memory, but the fact is that the os is not intended for productivity, it's made to goof around with $1 apps. Posted via RS Mobile
Quote:
Originally Posted by dangonay
^ Just tried that with my 4S with a 300 page technical PDF (graphically intensive) and e-mail and my switch times are about 0.5 seconds. Posted via RS Mobile
This post FAILED by: SkinnyPupp
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
I guess you have one of the magic ones then
Quote:
Originally Posted by dangonay
Here's my video of my 4S (as promised) and instead of switching between e-mail and a PDF I also threw in a third program, Keynote. Pay attention to the horrible load times for the second PDF and switching. It's unbearable to use.
But if you think it's any good for productivity at all, you are a liar and/or an idiot.
What exactly are you confused about, Skinny? You said the iPad was useless for large documents, dangonay posted that it works fine for him, you failed him, then posted that he was basically making that up. He has now posted a video proving his point and basically told you to STFU, which seems reasonable given the evidence.
Mark
__________________ I'm old now - boring street cars and sweet race cars.
Not sure why you think I would make up something like you offering to prove (via video) something I called you out on.
Here's my video of my 4S (as promised) and instead of switching between e-mail and a PDF I also threw in a third program, Keynote. Pay attention to the horrible load times for the second PDF and switching. It's unbearable to use.
How are you being PRODUCTIVE in that video, by switching back and forth between apps? You're not actually DOING anything.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
For instance I was helping someone proofread a presentation, so I was switching between the pdf file and the email. Every time I switched to the pdf, it would have to load the whole file over again. So that's like 5 seconds of lag for every app switch.Posted via RS Mobile
You complained it took 5 seconds to load the PDF every time you switched. I simply provided a sample that showed a PDF that was available instantly, along with an e-mail and Keynote that were also available instantly when task switching.
I suppose I could have composed an e-mail, edited the Keynote and stopped to proofread the PDF but that would have had no effect on the switching speed. Unless, of course, I waited for an hour or more and the App was purged from memory to do another task, but that's not really what you were talking about, right?
I just replicated the work I was trying to do, and put it on video. The pauses are not 5 seconds, they are 3 seconds going to email, and about 2 seconds when switching to the PDF. Doesn't sound like a lot, but when you are constantly switching back and forth trying to proofread, it is REALLY annoying. I will put it on youtube right now.
It is bad enough to be annoying, otherwise why would I have brought it up? You think I have something against the ipad or something? lol
It just isn't good for productivity, that's all I ever said. It is a toy. A really fucking cool toy, but a toy.
Will edit with video
Quote:
Originally Posted by dangonay
Found your offer to make a video. Page 2 of the iPhone 4S and iOS 5 thread.
And regarding that quote, it wasn't an OFFER to make a video. I said I COULD if I WANTED. Obviously I didn't WANT to waste time making a video showing the ipad lagging while switching between browsing and reading, etc.
But since you made a video, and people are responding to it with thanks and stupid memes, I have to at least replicate the scenario I was discussing, since it was very specific, frustrating, and REAL unlike your stupid switching back and forth between apps, doing nothing else.
Here's the video, I tried to replicate the work I was doing, using the email app and the same PDF file. You can clearly see the 3 second pause going to email, and about 2 second pause going to the PDF. Imagine dealing with that about 20-30 times over an hour under a deadline. Not fun
^ First off, why were you doing something with a "one hour deadline" on an iPad instead of a PC?
Which iPad are you using? Which iOS version? JB'd or not? Would that PDF file be something I could download from a website somewhere, or is it confidential? I'm quite sure I know the reasons why your iPad is lagging (based on what I see in the video). I'm just not sure why it didn't occur to you.
I work with PDF's (technical PDF's mostly filled with drawings and wiring diagrams) all day long on my iPad at work. I also routinely switch to e-mail to send/receive e-mails regarding progress on jobs I'm doing along with a couple other Apps. I never experience anything like what you are showing.
So If I come on a forum and say the iPad is good for reading PDF's and sending e-mails, and someone else (you) comes on saying it's useless for that, who should they believe? The person who does the exact task your describing every single day, or the one who admits what they were doing was "very specific" (your words, not mine)?
This is the problem people have with your original post. You found a specific situation that didn't work for you and made a blanket statement that the iPad is useless for anything based on your example.
^ First off, why were you doing something with a "one hour deadline" on an iPad instead of a PC?
Which iPad are you using? Which iOS version? JB'd or not? Would that PDF file be something I could download from a website somewhere, or is it confidential? I'm quite sure I know the reasons why your iPad is lagging (based on what I see in the video). I'm just not sure why it didn't occur to you.
I work with PDF's (technical PDF's mostly filled with drawings and wiring diagrams) all day long on my iPad at work. I also routinely switch to e-mail to send/receive e-mails regarding progress on jobs I'm doing along with a couple other Apps. I never experience anything like what you are showing.
So If I come on a forum and say the iPad is good for reading PDF's and sending e-mails, and someone else (you) comes on saying it's useless for that, who should they believe? The person who does the exact task your describing every single day, or the one who admits what they were doing was "very specific" (your words, not mine)?
This is the problem people have with your original post. You found a specific situation that didn't work for you and made a blanket statement that the iPad is useless for anything based on your example.
I was traveling at the time, and didn't have time to do the work until the last minute before their deadline. It was just a favour, so I just stopped by at a coffee shop and did the proofreading for them on the ipad.
Specs, ipad 2, ios 5.1 (would have been 5 when I first did the work, in fact the OS upgrade may have helped eliminate a touch of lag, because it seemed like 5 seconds before, not 3 like in the video), not JB'd. The PDF is confidential...
The lagging is not unique to this file or my ipad. It happens on the device because there isn't enough memory, and the OS is not designed for quick task switching. It is what I have been saying all along since the ipad 1 (which was a LOT worse, and practically unusable). It is not something I made up to "bash" the ipad or you. I have NOTHING against the ipad or you. It is A PIECE OF HARDWARE. This is my OBJECTIVE opinion, based on EXPERIENCE. I know it is laggy, can demonstrate the lag, and most importantly, I know WHY it is laggy.
Yes, you can flip through apps quickly when everything is loaded in the 512MB of ram, and make it look fast. But when you try DOING STUFF at the same time, you WILL run into lag. It is not a subjective opinion, it is not "just me" it is based on the design of the hardware. It is a TOY. And like I keep saying so as not to offend people who for some reason take a personal stake in a brand or product, it does THAT THING quite well.
The lag is not "very specific" but in this case I can exactly recall what I was doing, and replicate it, because the task was specific. There are many other instances you can bring up where it is laggy due to hardware and software design, but I am not going to make a video about everything. You can try some things out for yourself, for instance try scrolling a half loaded web page or document. You can't do it, because 100% of the processor is used for the task of making scrolling seem smooth.
I make a blanket statement that the ipad 2 doesn't have enough RAM to be useful for general productivity. It might be fun to play around with games and watch videos, but try doing WORK on it, you will run into problem after problem due to lag. Whether it is this specific instance, or others (such as data entry). The more you TRY to do with it, the more you will run into problems.
If you don't run into these problems GREAT! FANTASTIC! You are using it how it is designed to be used - as a toy that is fun to play with. Even though they market it as a productivity tool, I bet less than 5% of the users actually use it for such things. And if they do, they will be unsatisfied as they run into issues with RAM, laggy OS, etc, as I have each time I try to be productive with it.
There's ONE , 32GB WiFi in black available online. Rest are all sold out.
Haha damnit I read through the whole list, somehow I must have missed that one. Oh well, if I was buying one it'd just be a cheap 16gb in white, but I'm too cheap and no real need for an iPad seeing as my 13" MBP goes everywhere with me.
Mark
__________________ I'm old now - boring street cars and sweet race cars.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!
, oh well atleast i dont have to line up
