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03-21-2012, 06:19 AM
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I am interested in getting started in karting. Car related track days, solo1, and Knox are starting to get quite expensive and I see karting (competitively, but locally and for fun ie: not national level) a good alternative.
From what I understand there are two large main classes right now one being Rotax and the other TaG. I've been looking at some used chassis locally and am having difficulty deciding to go Rotax or TaG. Any local racers on here? How would you suggest going about starting in local karting?
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03-21-2012, 07:08 AM
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there is a track in chilliwack i forgot the name.. ill look it up
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03-21-2012, 08:49 AM
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Hello
I am a karter who has been doing it for over 30 years. There are 2 main tracks here one being Greg Moore Raceway in Chilliwack and the other being Sima Racing in Sumas Washington just across the border in Abbotsford. Both are great tracks and offer different driving choices.
As for Rotax or Tag, they are different motors all together and have different driving styles to get use to. I run Tag Leopard 125cc and Tag ICC 125 6 spd shifter kart at Sima.
Either one would be great to start with. Great karting community and always someone to help you with set up.
Two main retailers here in town. One being Italian Motors in Burnaby and the other being Race Lab in Burnaby. Both good.
Try going out to either track and see what you like. You can rent karts to try out.
Cheers and good luck.
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03-21-2012, 09:02 AM
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Thanks for the info. I've been out to SIMA once and used one of their nice rentals (the quick ones but I don't think the full race karts because I didn't have enough "experience" in karts) and had a blast. That's what made me really want to go in this direction. Right now there are a few good deals online for used karts with Rotax and Parilla motors. Priced similarly. However one is a fairly new Italkart, and because they have such a strong influence in the local karting community I'm thinking I may go in that direction over the Mach1 and Birel chassis for sale. And from what I understand, IM is much more pointed to TaG/Leopard motors than Rotax.
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03-21-2012, 09:30 AM
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Yes Italian Motors in my opinion is the best around. Both my karts are Italkarts and are incredible to drive. They have good used one for sale as well that are very well maintained. At Sima ask for Michael or Claudio to help you and tell them Todd sent you. They can hook up you with all you need. Hope to see you at the track. My name is Todd
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03-21-2012, 11:51 AM
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Yeah for sure, I was thinking of heading down there sometime and chatting with them. I've bought a few things from IM before and one of my old co workers's son used to race for them (Tanner Coles, if you know him). I've heard so much over the time I was working with him about IM, that I know they are as good as everyone makes them sound.
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Mark, you going to get in on this too? Now that you don't have a race car and all.....
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03-24-2012, 02:53 PM
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what's a "starter" setup cost?
i've always wanted to get into kart racing
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03-24-2012, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by falcon  Mark, you going to get in on this too? Now that you don't have a race car and all..... | I'd love to but no time to race in Chilliwack 
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Between 3-5k for used with spares. New is 6-7k+.
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06-27-2017, 10:22 AM
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anyone still karting? Currently own a DD2 tracking it at the shanghai F1 track currently. Plan on getting into karting when I move back to vancouver into either tag or rotax.
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06-27-2017, 11:44 AM
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I race at the local tracks (Greg Moore Raceway and SIMA).
In my opinion it is best to hold off on purchasing any new two stroke engines at the moment. The rotax series just completely died so its a bit unclear as to where everyone will end up.
I'd recommend renting a 4stroke LO206 at Greg Moore or SIMA for a race day. Renting one is cheap and a great way to check out the track/scene ($300+tax at GMR for a full race day). While they aren't as fast, the grid size is often very big and VERY talented drivers run in LO206.
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06-28-2017, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Vancouver240sx I race at the local tracks (Greg Moore Raceway and SIMA).
In my opinion it is best to hold off on purchasing any new two stroke engines at the moment. The rotax series just completely died so its a bit unclear as to where everyone will end up.
I'd recommend renting a 4stroke LO206 at Greg Moore or SIMA for a race day. Renting one is cheap and a great way to check out the track/scene ($300+tax at GMR for a full race day). While they aren't as fast, the grid size is often very big and VERY talented drivers run in LO206.
Rich | Oh wow really? Wasn't rotax the dominent class in canada? What about the x125? I see sima has that as their main class other than the lo? I was thinking that's a tempting looking engine if lots of ppl run it in the states. Personally not a fan of rotax anymore due to the sealed crap. Here in Shanghai I have to ship my engine to Hong Kong to get it rebuilt if I want to race since there's no certified rotax rebuilder here. Some of the club members here that race just buy new engines every year to get around that hassle...
Lo looks fun but just the idea of it being so slow after coming from a dd2 isn't really tempting haha. But then again maybe going to a slower class can be beneficial, been repeatedly injuring my ribs recently with the faster karts even with rib protectors. Getting old I guess...
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06-28-2017, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by J____ Oh wow really? Wasn't rotax the dominent class in canada? What about the x125? I see sima has that as their main class other than the lo? I was thinking that's a tempting looking engine if lots of ppl run it in the states. Personally not a fan of rotax anymore due to the sealed crap. Here in Shanghai I have to ship my engine to Hong Kong to get it rebuilt if I want to race since there's no certified rotax rebuilder here. Some of the club members here that race just buy new engines every year to get around that hassle...
Lo looks fun but just the idea of it being so slow after coming from a dd2 isn't really tempting haha. But then again maybe going to a slower class can be beneficial, been repeatedly injuring my ribs recently with the faster karts even with rib protectors. Getting old I guess... | In all truth, I don't think anyone knows what is happening to Rotax. From my understanding they will no longer be hosting anymore Rotax Max (big events) so we MIGHT see a massive decline even at the club level.
X125 is a good place to go if you want to run two stroke, however, I believe that means you'll only be able to run at SIMA in a competitive class.
This might sound like a challenge, maybe it is, most guys that come down to LO206 from the fast karts find the competition in LO206 very difficult. That being said the TAG group out at Greg Moore is also getting bigger and is of course very competitive too.
I mainly suggest the LO206 as a rental day just to make sure you enjoy the people/track/competition before purchasing whichever kart you decide. Much better to see and talk to the people at the track 1st, rather than buying someones used (possibly POS) kart off craigslist and finding out:
- the engine isn't being used
- no one is in your class
- the kart has issues
- etc
(I see this happen ALL the time, and those people never come back)
Rich
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06-28-2017, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Vancouver240sx In all truth, I don't think anyone knows what is happening to Rotax. From my understanding they will no longer be hosting anymore Rotax Max (big events) so we MIGHT see a massive decline even at the club level.
X125 is a good place to go if you want to run two stroke, however, I believe that means you'll only be able to run at SIMA in a competitive class.
This might sound like a challenge, maybe it is, most guys that come down to LO206 from the fast karts find the competition in LO206 very difficult. That being said the TAG group out at Greg Moore is also getting bigger and is of course very competitive too.
I mainly suggest the LO206 as a rental day just to make sure you enjoy the people/track/competition before purchasing whichever kart you decide. Much better to see and talk to the people at the track 1st, rather than buying someones used (possibly POS) kart off craigslist and finding out:
- the engine isn't being used
- no one is in your class
- the kart has issues
- etc
(I see this happen ALL the time, and those people never come back)
Rich | Thanks for the advice with the local clubs. Will do the rentals thing in the LO's before deciding on a purchase when I get back.
I'm sure the competition is very difficult in the LO206, i guess the engine, the more effect your mistakes will have on the laptime. For me I'm more out to have some fun rather than be super competitive. Maybe do one or two races here and there for fun rather than hardcore competitive racing.
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06-28-2017, 09:41 PM
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wow karting in Shanghai must be expensive? Used to play around at the track near gubei / xujiahui area but nothing as hardcore as the circuit.
Do you guys know how to get a child started in go karting locally in van? Any courses or requirements for noobs
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06-28-2017, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Akord wow karting in Shanghai must be expensive? Used to play around at the track near gubei / xujiahui area but nothing as hardcore as the circuit.
Do you guys know how to get a child started in go karting locally in van? Any courses or requirements for noobs | I'm biased because Blake at BBR has become a VERY good friend of mine; I HIGHLY recommend BBR Karting if you're interested in starting your kid out. He's a fantastic karting coach who's working with a lot of children (and adults) who are getting into the sport.
His website: Home - BBR Karting
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06-29-2017, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Akord wow karting in Shanghai must be expensive? Used to play around at the track near gubei / xujiahui area but nothing as hardcore as the circuit. | It's actually not tooooo bad. Karts cost around 30-50% more to purchase than what they cost in north america, and annual unlimited practice membership at the F1 circuit (expect private events bookings) comes to $3000 cdn per year and includes kart storage and technicians to tune/fix your kart (you'll have to buy your own parts). The indoor kart place you went to in gubei is a rip off I feel, $20 cdn for 8 mins or something like that in their slow karts. Quote:
Originally Posted by Vancouver240sx I'm biased because Blake at BBR has become a VERY good friend of mine; I HIGHLY recommend BBR Karting if you're interested in starting your kid out. He's a fantastic karting coach who's working with a lot of children (and adults) who are getting into the sport.
His website: Home - BBR Karting
Rich | so that's their website, been getting redirected to their website that's constantly under construction. THanks
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Question for the racers out there. Are cages allowed in any of the series? Karting interests me, but honestly the thought of another driver using my kart as a ramp doesn't give me that warm tingly feeling inside.
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Originally Posted by hud 91gt Question for the racers out there. Are cages allowed in any of the series? Karting interests me, but honestly the thought of another driver using my kart as a ramp doesn't give me that warm tingly feeling inside. | Cages are not really a thing in karting. The weight would render you pretty much instantly uncompetitive.
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06-30-2017, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hud 91gt Question for the racers out there. Are cages allowed in any of the series? Karting interests me, but honestly the thought of another driver using my kart as a ramp doesn't give me that warm tingly feeling inside. | Just wanted to echo what Mark said and suggest coming out to watch a race. I think you'd see everything is pretty damn safe. It isn't TBC, the racers know what their doing.
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06-30-2017, 07:41 PM
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I've watched competitive racing before, and I know everyone knows what they are doing but accidents do happen. It was just a question on the legalities of it.
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Originally Posted by hud 91gt I've watched competitive racing before, and I know everyone knows what they are doing but accidents do happen. It was just a question on the legalities of it. | I think the combo of a good Helmet and neck brace would bring equality good protection comparable to a roll cage for protection in karting. A roll cage not only would add tons of weight but also really mess with the stiffness and handling of the chassis. With no suspension, even the difference of seat stiffness has a huge impact on chassis rigidity and handling in these karts.
I'd worry more about injury to your ribs from pulling high G's than from karts going over your head. I'm out from karting for 2 months after injuring my ribs going through a corner at 100 at the wrong angle and getting some wheel hop. Couldn't even breath or roll over in bed without excruciating pain for 3 weeks.. It's by far the most common injury in the sport aside from hand injury.
I think you'd be pretty safe in terms of not having karts go over you. The way full length bumpers are designed these days really minimize wheel to wheel contact that launches another kart over you.
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