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but on a more serious note, I believe OP is just looking for a quick easy lay in which he doesn't have to pay for. That's somewhat understandable because he's in his early 20's. If I was in OP's situation, I would focus less on trying to get tail every weekend and spend more time improving myself. Like others have mentioned, it's important to have other interests and hobbies in which you can improve your own self-esteem. You could join a running club (usually tons of fit chicks) or go learn a new language. (usually a lot of one-on-one attention) I'm not trying to give you avenues in which can land you an easy lay, but it's definitely going to improve your chances if that's what you want. |
You say you got confidence, but if you can't get any girls into a sexual relationship, then you ain't got any confidence. Sorry. Go on pick-up-artist forums and learn some basics to improve your game. I've seen countless number of guys like you (can't get girls, resort to prostitutes type) recieving help there. Stop paying for escorts because thats cheating and your game will never improve, if not getting worse. I go to UBC and I see nerds getting laid all the time. Why can't you? |
I think what you need to do is find a friend thats a girl, someone you can talk to that will help your confidence with talking to women. Once you can talk and joke with any girl like shes one of your friends your set. And how did you send a 1000 messages and not get one response back? for every 10 I've sent I've gotten 1-2 responses back. pm me a link to your pof profile i can help you out with some tips. And stop paying for escorts save that money for a nicer car, girls don't like taking transit. PS. pussy is free if you apply yourself. |
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when I was 20 I didnt care about relationships, as much pussy as possible is all that mattered, and for as little money as possible. if he was 30, ya, but he's 20. dude just wants some pootang, and hookers be expensive, the only thing alarming about his post is the castration thing, that is fucked up, in which case I agree with you that this guy needs some therapy. |
OP try not to always be the nice guy. Never EVER give a girl a compliment in a club, especially as the first thing you say. That only makes you look like 1) You're trying to get in her pants 2) you're drunk off your ass and just being a horny dog (Which brings us back to #1). Learn to playfully make fun of girls, get to know them a bit, act interested in what they talk about, ask questions, then compliment/number exchange. Not many girls casually have sex with guys they meet randomly (unless intoxicated), life isn't a porno. You're not gonna be driving along highway 1 one day, when you see a 10/10 blond in a short skirt and high heels with a flat tire on her 2010 335i, and you being the chivalrist man you are, go and change her spare tire for her. And she doesn't have any means of paying you back so you end up in some pseudo barter based business relationship in which she has sex with you on the side of the road as a means of repayment for you fixing her flat tire. It doesn't work like that. Anyways .. start going to the gym, start lifting some weights, get your testosterone and confidence up. If you still can't get anything out of it, at least the escorts won't cringe when your 130lb pale skinny fat body walks through the door. Getting laid isn't the end all be all. I'm pretty sure you feel pretty cold + worse than you did before going to the escort. Learn to control your emotions and your mind. Have some discipline with yourself, become something, be a man .. maybe fall in love .. maybe fill that void and need for gratification you have with a relationship. Maybe spend the money you spend on escorts on a nice girl and taking her out to dinners .. Be real with yourself. You need to meet a certain physical criteria to be one of those guys that gets with random chicks all the time. If you have a 5/10 face you can make up for it with a 8/10 body. |
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Not everyone is in the game of nailing a pure volume of women. |
post a picture of yourself, might answer a lot of the questions im not joking, nohomo |
maybe no pics of face but body so dhillon can examine which part exactly you should focus getting big on :lawl: and lay off the fucking escorts. They are for LOSERS. PERIOD.... At such an early age, you can get self confidence back easily but lay off the bad habits first! :heckno: |
sounds like joe45 |
Stop being a desperate wuss. Man up. Read this. http://www.pauljanka.com/downloads/GettingLaidInNYC.pdf |
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come clubbing with me one night. ill show u the ways |
hmmmmm my 0.02 *$150 x 25 escorts = $3750 waste money *Do an AIDS test you might have one Dude you're still young... don't rush... focus in school/career... down the road you'll find one....love will find its way |
go to the gym 4 days a week and you can be grabbin the ladies with ease :troll: :lawl: |
The following is a reply from the anonymous member Hi guys. First of all I want to thank everyone who has responded. I have studied every response and since some overlap, I'll answer them as honestly as I can. After all, I'm doing this confidentially for a reason. Here goes, long post, bare with me. Quote:
Im usually at school around 9am and stay until 6-8pm. For most of the day I'm studying and have 2-3 hours of classes in between so its not like I'm sitting at home all day. I stopped going on POF and the escort sites for a little while now. Im not saying I'm charming, thats my problem. Im not charming enough to get girls in bed. I can make them laugh but can never lead it anywhere. For example: I was talking to this one girl in one of my class groups and told her how when i get black out drunk I only respond to "Vincent" and i dont know why. She was laughing her ass off the whole time and then she brought it up again today in our group meeting and kept laughing about it. Then i added a few more jokes and everyone kept laughing. My point is i really amn't that socially awkward guy that sits in the back of the class praying for a girl to come up to him and start talking lol. The reason I looked into chem castration because I wouldn't be attracted to girls and i wouldn't have to worry about being horny or anything and can concentrate on more important things in life like school and work. I talked to a doctor in chinatown and he said he would give me a shot of 2mg triptolerin and increase it if i really have to. Ill give myself a few months, if i can make some progress with girls then its ok, if not, then ill think about it more. Quote:
i think i have most of those down except moving out. I want to save up for a downpayment before I move. Other then that, my hobbies include working out, finance and cars. None of which are appealing to girls. Quote:
I do meet a lot of girls but if i mate romantic or sexual suggestions, doesnt that just make me come off as creepy and desperate? Anotehr example, the girl i was talking about earlier randomly said "fuck me" in the middle of our meeting (she was getting frustrated on googledoc editing or something) but i didn't say anything even though in the back of my head i wanted to go "i can help you with that" or something similar lol.. but that would just come off as creepy... and even though i used the same girl as an example, I'm not obsessed with her or anything. Theres a lot of similar situations that have happened with other girls. Quote:
I wouldn't hang out with her enough and wouldn't give her enough attention. I dont know wtf she expected, we went out for around 3 months and we always just went out to eat and hang out. The farthest i got with her was making out with her and thats it. I know its not all about sex but making out gets boring eventually. Quote:
I tried that, then I would just never bother talking to any girls. Dont know how that works. Quote:
I can talk to random strangers easily. I drive so cant meet girls on the bus but I talk to girls randomly in bookstore lineups, subway lineup, girls that sit next to me in class, everywhere. Even one of the girls I talked to in class, Im going to be studying with her next week for finals but i dont expect anything sexual to come out of it. Quote:
I got responses on POF but it never lead anywhere. I got like 2 numbers but they just flaked when we set a time to meet up for coffee. I have female friends at school but none that i talk to on a daily basis. Ive never had a girl tell me she has a problem talking to me nor does their body language show they dont want to be there. Like i said, I can make them laugh easily and i know how to laugh at myself so I dont know why a girl wouldn't want to talk to me when i can make her laugh. And no, girls dont randomly come up to me to talk to me. Quote:
Well I wont be in school at 22 and if I am it will be grad school. If i cant get laid right now, theres not much chances ill get laid 2+ years from now when Im working and not meeting new girls everyday. Heres answers to your questions. fat? - see pic at bottom ugly? - friends always said no. Even though Im paying escorts but they usually say why i dont find a non-escort. dress poorly? - not to sound like a douchebag but i wear fitted shirts and overall I'm good with fashion so I'm sure i dont dress like shit. poor personal hygiene? - shower everyday/ after every workout broke? - kind of no confidence? - i like to think I'm pretty confident in real life... I dont know if there is any correlation but I'm in a communications class so I'm able to make long speeches in front a lot of people without any problems.. meaning I'm not unconfident Quote:
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i know what you mean. But not to sound like a douche again but I'm the most jacked person out of my group of friends and 99% of people in my classes. I have a long way to go to get my dream body but I'm happy with how far I've gotten. Quote:
Yea your right, I never really thought about it but I'm starting to think it might be a big part of why i dont get laid. Im brown and my people dont exactly have the best reputation in getting laid lol. Might also be why i didn't get many responses on POF because the girls probably make a lot of assumptions. And thats ok with me, I probably would be picky on race if I could get laid with anyone I want. My ex gf was white btw. And all the girls I've seen before her were white as well. I was born/raised in vancouver so I'm pretty whitewashed and dont really connect with girls from my background. Quote:
Which part do you think I need help in? Quitting escorts or getting laid with non-escorts? Also why dont you think i have respect for women? If i didn't have respect for women, Id probably be trying to get laid with drunk girls in clubs but I dont. Quote:
Yeah that just makes it worse, i sometimes eaves drop close to ok looking guys that have pretty good looking GFs in irving and their discussions aren't entertaining or funny at all. Never see what they see in the guy. Quote:
I havent fapped for around a month because i know it messes up your view of the real world. And i know i have a lot of work to do on my body. My genetics are pretty crap but I'm getting to my goal. I try to get about 3200 calories in per day to bulk up to around 210 lbs then I'll cut down to 170ish. My chest genetics are weird and i collect fat there really fast so I'm hoping to hit 210 fast so i can cut and get my abs back. Like i said, working out is my hobby and its not like I'm some 300 lb fat fuck trying to get laid by 10/10s. heres my pic: http://i.imgur.com/Dqe9v.png |
First thing first go get your self checked. You dont want to finally find a girl have her leave you because you gave her an infection or a disease. |
the hell, you said you were brown? the pic is of a white dude |
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You didn't answer the major question though: Do you want a girlfriend/relationship? Do you just want a girl to fuck? At this point, I think you just want a girl to fuck. You may as well go back to fucking hookers. I think you have a problem. Kidding aside, I truly thinks you have a sexual addiction. I DO NOT recommend you looking for a girl the date or to form a relationship with. You will destroy her. You need to seek help. I am not trolling, joking, or making fun of you. Talk to you family doctor, talk to a counselor at school, phone the mental health line...do what ever you need to do. IMO, this is not normal, but you are not the only one who feels like this or has dealt with this. |
I'll get you more later, but here's what I get out of your book long response: fuck me. fuck me. fuck me? fuck me please? FUCK ME! Need to get fucked. Women. In a word? desperate. You need to CALM THE FUCK DOWN. You lost me as soon as you said, "in 2 years I'll be wherever and there are no girls there" Fuck man...how do you think us old farts in our 30's get laid after 22? The answer is not "escorts". If I can read your words and get nothing but desperation from it, what do you think the rest of the world can see? You need ass, right meow! You have some serious problems, and getting laid is NOT going to solve them. You are trying to compensate for whatever deficiency you have with pussy. Even if you suddenly became a player, the same problem with yourself is going to be present. Why? Because in 4 years, you are going to send EB a post that says, "I get all these women, but I can't make a relationship work!" Be honest..the problem is you can't afford hookers anymore. You are addicted to ass, and now you can't pay for it. The common problem of addicts. You wouldn't be here asking questions if you could afford to buy more ass. Now you are doing what an addict does best..how can I get my fix for free? |
OP, if you're looking for a fuck, then clubs/bars aka the meat market, are going to give you the best chance. Wear your fitted shirt, show off your body, and just cut to the chase and start asking women if they're DTF. There's no need to charm the sluts. It'll be kind of like that King of the Hill episode where you discover that the secret of Boomhauer's success with women is to just keep asking until you get a positive response. |
Where does the core of this come from? What were your early interactions with women like? You've mentioned being charming to a point, but not charming enough to seal the deal. What happens at that point. Do you just not proceed? Or do you find yourself somehow sabotaging your own efforts. Also, and this is a serious question, have you ever tried getting these women to hang out with you socially, without the expectation of sex as an eventual reward? A platonic date? It just seems to us that you want to skip to point C without hitting points A and B. Yeah, yeah, we know that you don't have much time in your life for it, but developing decent social skills now, while you can afford to make mistakes, prevent you from making those mistakes later on down the road when you meet someone who really matters to you. Because you don't want to treat women as masturbatory aids forever, do you? |
Your sex drive is through the roof. More than me lol. And your mindset is making it all wrong, you're letting your instincts take over. |
to the op, have you ever thought to yourself that what you think of yourself isn't exactly what other people thinks of you? you think you emit qualities such as confidence, humour, well dress/groomed, good fitness..etc etc, but is that what other people see in you that makes YOU? everyone is biased towards themselves, you have to put yourself in an unbiased perspective and critique yourself. you see escorts. big deal. but is it because of them that your mindset towards other females, relationships is going down the drain? i also don't think you should go into a relationship if all you think is that a relationship equals to sex. sex in a relationship can be just an added bonus, it shouldn't be the thing that actually drives the relationship. but again, i don't know you and how your previous relationship ACTUALLY went, so im not going to critique you regarding your previous relationship. i just hope you change your mindset if that is really what you think (relationship = sex) a relationship is to something more realistic. |
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Shit takes time, especially with girls you know in your day to day life. And you gotta get your head out of your ass and stop expecting it to be fucking easy and instead work on earning it. You gotta spend time talking to the girl your studying with and then maybe after the final ask her out for a cup of coffee and a movie. And you gotta spend time getting to know her and take her out to dinner a few times letting her get to know you and THEN maybe then you will get laid. |
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yeah, I'm not dark brown or anything... more mocha coloured and the lighting was strong too Quote:
I'm happy with either. I always hear my friends talking about how many girls they banged over the weekend at some party and it gets pretty bad knowing your the only one in the group who is a "virgin". Quote:
Honestly, I think you guys are blowing this out of proportion. Im not addicted to sex, I can easily rub one out before school and everything is fine. I haven't seen escorts in months now, there was a point where I would see 2 or 3 per week. I decided to stop that shit and try to at least get a girl interested in me before I graduate. Im guessing your a female so you dont know how it feels. Its super easy to stop thinking about sex after you jack off and then your good for the whole day. I saw so many escorts because my mindset was that no girl would want to have sex with me and I didn't have many ways to meet girls because I stopped hanging out with friends and studied/worked more. Quote:
Ive been to barcelona, republic, venue etc but I quickly realized the real world doesnt work like how it does in the movies/tv. Quote:
Ive always lived with women which may be one of the problems. Ive lived with my 3 sisters and mother. I saw my father once a year for a short period of time. There pretty religious so we never talk about dating or sex or anything. I used to go out with girls since grade 7 then it slowed down in grade 10 and i decided to bust my ass in school to make it into university. Then once I got in, I had one gf in first year and thats it. I can talk to girls but when it comes to sexual talk, I guess I kind of become shy or intimidated i dont know. And i haven't gotten any girls to hang out with but its happened a couple times but it never leads anywhere. The most recent one was retarded, I asked her to hang out, we got in my car, leaving school, she says she forgot where the place is, called her guy friend, and i ended up picking him up as well and going to the restaurant. Shit was retarded. But then she invited me clubbing and stuff but i dont know wtf is up with her, she keeps going with like 5 other guys. So I'm not bothering with her. Do you think I should just try to get as many girls to go on completely platonic dates with me? I usually dont bother asking girls out too much because 1) I stopped focusing on them and 2) There isn't many girls I "click" with and the date would probably be boring. Quote:
Yeah my mindset has been pretty pathetic. After my ex dumped me, I had the mindset that "no one really has sex, girls are just a big tease, only way to get laid is through escorts or if you have amazing game". I know its not all about sex but I'm not even asking to just have a one night stand or anything. Being able to be anything more then friends with any woman seems like an impossible goal right now. Thanks again for everyones responses, I feel a lot better. I've given myself 6 months to put myself out there and just make as many friends as i can and if that leads to something, then great, if not, well then its probably a sign to quit lol. |
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