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04-12-2012, 05:41 AM
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Question for those in accounting or do payroll
quick question on how overtime is calculated.
i understand the basics of overtime like everyone else.
but say we use a 40hr work week as an example.
someone works 4 days of their m-f, 8hr shifts
mon 8:30-5:00 8hrs regular worked, 0.5hr lunch
tues 8:30-6:00 8hrs regular worked, 1.0hr OT, 0.5hr lunch
wed didnt work
thurs 8:30-5:00 8hrs regular worked, 0.5hr lunch
fri 8:30-5:00 8hrs regular worked, 0.5hr lunch
this works out as 32.0hrs regular worked, 1.0hr OT but because they are listed as a casual staff, do i then just pay them 33.0hrs of regular work, or do i actually write that 32.0hr regular, 1.0hr ot?
thanx for the help. i guess the confusing part is the casual staff part. if they were listed as full time staff, the rules are different
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04-12-2012, 07:16 AM
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This depends on a few things 1. do they get paid salary or hourly, and 2. are they on an averaging agreement of some sort?
Legally you have to if they're an hourly employee with no management duties, pay them the 1 hour over time.
In reality this depends hugely on your relationship with the staffer and their expectations and how exact you are about your hour keeping. For example: my guys if they run over don't mind being paid regular pay as I don't dock them when they're late on other days or they take a long lunch or what ever and it generally is assumed it kinda works out. But I'm in a small company where I have that sort of communication/relationship with the people I pay.
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04-12-2012, 10:38 AM
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Everything depends on company policy (see Subway thread for example)
BC Labour Ministry take:
Overtime
Daily overtime pay is time-and-a-half after eight hours worked in a day and double time after 12 hours worked in a day.
Weekly overtime is time-and-a-half after 40 hours worked in a week. Only the first eight hours worked in a day count towards weekly overtime.
Factsheet: Hours of Work and Overtime
Averaging Agreements
An employer and an employee can agree to average scheduled work hours over a period of one, two, three, four weeks. Averaging agreements must be in writing, and have a start date and an end date. Overtime is payable:
- After eight hours in a day if extra hours have been added to an employee’s schedule, or
- If the employee works more than an average of 40 hours in a week over the averaging period (e.g., 80 hours over two weeks, 120 hours over three weeks.)
See: Averaging Agreements
source: Government of B.C., Ministry of Labour, Employment Standards Branch, A Guide to B.C. Employment Standards
Most small business will just do straight time for anything less than 40hrs a week. the 41hour is OT at 1.5. Again - this is for most small business. Large corporations will do 1hr of OT IF the employee works 9hrs in a day, but still stays within the 40hr threshold within the week.
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04-13-2012, 05:56 AM
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thanx, just trying to grasp it.
i guess i should have added that its hourly.
the question is before they make the 40hr mark.
but i guess i will have to review company policy.
thanx
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