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Speaking of AHL, I saw a bunch of Abbotsford Heat players yesterday and was surprised they weren't very big. One of them seemed shorter than me and I'm only 5'8"..
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Speaking of AHL, I saw a bunch of Abbotsford Heat players yesterday and was surprised they weren't very big. One of them seemed shorter than me and I'm only 5'8"..
Those guys will probably never make the NHL, but it's not surprising there are players in the minors that aren't over 6'. They might be very skilled to even play in the AHL, but the lack of size prevents them from getting to the NHL.
It's not impossible, but the odds are stacked against them. There are only a handful of NHL players at 5'10" and shorter. Nathan Gerbe is only 5'5" and still made the bigs.
NEW YORK -- The NHL and the players' association agreed on issues related to player safety and drug testing Friday, but the core economic divide that is preventing an end to the league's latest lockout was not even on the agenda.
The sides returned to the bargaining table after more than two weeks apart, and some progress was made in about two hours of discussions during a morning session.
"You would absolutely hope that things progress and kind of catch fire, but right now we're just going to take it one step at a time and try to come to an agreement on as many issues as possible," said former player Mathieu Schneider, now an NHLPA special assistant to the executive director. "We're taking baby steps right now."
NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman took part in Friday morning's talks, but union head Donald Fehr wasn't present. He is expected to join the discussions during the course of the three-day meeting.
After breaking for lunch, the sides were expected to reconvene later Friday and then again on Saturday and Sunday.
"It says that both sides are committed to getting back to the table and working," Schneider said.
Schneider added that there were agreements on more rigorous drug testing, including increasing it to parts of the year during which testing is not currently done.
Both sides are on the same page in believing that the use of performance-enhancing drugs is not a problem in the NHL.
"We're in agreement that it's not an issue in our sport," Schneider said. "I think it's in the players' best interest as well as the sport to close off any possible time during the year where players could use."
Other topics on tap for Friday and through the weekend are various health and safety issues, time players spend at training facilities, and other non-economic topics.
"We like to say that nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to, but we've certainly made some headway," Schneider said. "A lot of it was done previous to this morning. We're taking notes of where we stand. I would say that we have a lot of mutual ground that we have found agreement on."
It is not impossible that monetary issues will come up for discussion in this round of talks, they just aren't scheduled. Neither side has indicated it is prepared to make a new offer now regarding how to split up the more than $3 billion annual pot of hockey-related revenue.
"In general, when you're dealing with collective bargaining, when you start to have agreements on smaller issues, it can lead to bigger issues," Schneider said, "but it's still too early to say."
These are the first talks since the lockout was put in place on Sept. 16 and they came a day after the league cancelled the remaining pre-season games. The regular season is to start Oct. 11.
Speaking of AHL, I saw a bunch of Abbotsford Heat players yesterday and was surprised they weren't very big. One of them seemed shorter than me and I'm only 5'8"..
The Flames have a highly touted prospect by the name of John Gaudreau who is 5'6. He's very comparable to Martin St Louis due to his PPG performance playing with Boston College in his rookie year and prospects alk about his scoring prowess. Keep in mind that getting a PPG as a rookie in college is quite hard to do. He's small, but scouts have said that he's acclimated his game against tougher, bigger opposition.
The Flames have a highly touted prospect by the name of John Gaudreau who is 5'6. He's very comparable to Martin St Louis due to his PPG performance playing with Boston College in his rookie year and prospects alk about his scoring prowess. Keep in mind that getting a PPG as a rookie in college is quite hard to do. He's small, but scouts have said that he's acclimated his game against tougher, bigger opposition.
Some sources list Kane being an inch shorter than Crosby.
But Crosby's about 20 lbs heavier.
Gaudreau's gonna need to pack some serious weight like Christian Bale style.
141 lbs... I'm sure they'll beef him up before he plays in the NHL. Although I would only imagine his peak being 175ish. Still pretty light.
If I recall correctly, I think Mason Raymond was initially only 160,
and then he bulked up to 185 now... He still seems to fall down a lot though.
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