NHL IS BACK! The Official 2012/2013 Canucks & NHL Thread

[Domed]

yes because it still takes the same amount of playoff games to win the cup

[Tim Budong]

Originally Posted by b0unce. [?]

Rangers for the cup. They are too beast.

IMO keep Lu. That's just what I would prefer.

A Fragile Beast

Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS

Enlighten me to what the situation is that I don't understand.

Is Luongo so disgruntled and has too much pride that he would throw away being a 1b and a chance at a stanley cup to go play in Florida or Toronto (insert any mediocre team here)? Whose to say Luongo won't start the season opener? Anything can happen at any given time. I'm content with Gillis holding on to both pieces until he has to make a move.

No where did I say Lu isn't gonna finish the season as a Canuck, The "situation" is having two excellent goalies to take us to glory

Luongo is a team guy and well agree on whatever decision

[kristianhay]

Info on what happens if Lu is traded.

THE LUONGO RULE
This is another rule from the league aimed at hammering current back-diving deals (front-loaded, "cheat deals." However, this has changed from its original form when the NHL first proposed it in October.

In the original formula, if a player like Roberto Luongo was traded and retired before the end of his deal, the Canucks (the team who signed him to the contract) would assume his remaining $5.33-million cap early hit in retirement. The new rule in this tentative agreement is different. Now, for any contract in excess of six years, both teams involved in a trade on a contract like Luongo’s would be penalized if he retired before the end of his deal.

To wit: let’s say the Canucks trade Luongo soon. Luongo has played two years of his 12-year contract, the Canucks paying him $16.716 million in salary but only absorbing a $5.33 million cap hit each year. That’s a cap savings of $6.056 million over two years so far for Vancouver. Under this new rule, should the Canucks trade him now and he retires with three years left on his contract, Vancouver would be charged that $6.056 million in cap savings over the final three years left on his deal from 2019 to 2022. However, let’s say for argument’s sake Luongo gets traded to Toronto, the Maple Leafs also would be subject to cap penalties if Luongo retires before the end of his deal.

To wit, part 2: If Luongo were to play the next seven years of his deal in Toronto before retiring, the Leafs would be paying him $43.666 million in salary but only counting $37.31 million against the cap over those seven years, a cap savings of $6.356 million. So if Luongo retires with three years left on his deal (because his salary falls to $1.618 million in the 10th year and then $1 million in the last two years of the deal), the Leafs would get charged that $6.356 million on their cap spread evenly over the remaining three years of his deal.

And obviously, if players under these back-diving deals are never traded, but retire before the end of their deals (Marian Hossa in Chicago), their current teams get charged the cap savings spread evenly over the remaining years of the deal.

Trades, cheat deals and more CBA details - Cross Checks Blog - ESPN

[spideyv2]

Does kes drive a navigator? Think I saw him dt
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[Tim Budong]

Originally Posted by jayare604

Does kes drive a navigator? Think I saw him dt
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yes

[spideyv2]

The guy had problems parallel parking

Feelsasianman
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[jeedee]

Originally Posted by jayare604

Does kes drive a navigator? Think I saw him dt
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lol first you spot Yakupov and now Kes

...but don't even recognize both

Doyouevenwatchhockey phagg0t?

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by Greenstoner

do you consider shorten season stanley cup winner is the real champ ?

discuss

Lol any other team wouldn't have an asterix but guaranteed everyone would give the Canucks one if they win
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[Tim Budong]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Lol any other team wouldn't have an asterix but guaranteed everyone would give the Canucks one if they win
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my gawd, the most honest truthful post in this thread

[DanHibiki]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Lol any other team wouldn't have an asterix but guaranteed everyone would give the Canucks one if they win
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Guaranteed my maple laff friend would use that excuse against the Canucks. He makes any excuse against us.
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[kristianhay]

Hmm... the guy was highly touted at one point, 3rd overall draft pick, and was a pretty solid d-man until he ran into off-ice problems (alcoholism was speculated). What do you guys think about this?

Dan Murphy ‏@sportsnetmurph
I'm hearing former #blackhawks #wild #oilers d-man Cam Barker may get a try out at #canucks training camp to earn a 7 or 8 blueline spot.

[jeedee]

Sure why not

He's 6ft, 220+ pounds. Gillis loves big players

[kristianhay]

^

Yeah, that was my general feeling. 6'3", big guy, upside. I would feel bad for Connauton if Barker made the squad as the number 7/8 d-man as he's finally going to get a look here.

[mb_]

Depth guy, sure why not

[Tim Budong]

if he can return to his former 40pt season form
im all for it
give ballard a run for his money

[jeedee]

Originally Posted by kristianhay

^

Yeah, that was my general feeling. 6'3", big guy, upside. I would feel bad for Connauton if Barker made the squad as the number 7/8 d-man as he's finally going to get a look here.

Thing with Connauton is there's still holes in his game. He's still a defensive liability from what I've read.

He's still 1-2 years away from the NHL.

[jeedee]

Also, interesting report:

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN

#NYI Visnovsky to stay in KHL -- ESPN NY -- Lubomir Visnovsky staying in KHL, won't return to New York Islanders - ESPN New York …
Retweeted by Pierre LeBrun

Ballard to the Islanders anyone?

[mb_]

Was reading on Twitter earlier that players with NHL contracts in the KHL have to come back

Also a lot of teams are offering huge $$ to get them to stay
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[RiceIntegraRS]

Originally Posted by jeedee

Also, interesting report:



Ballard to the Islanders anyone?

Ballard for Grabner? oh that would be funny, but will never happen.

[jeedee]

^I'm hoping Ballard for Frans Nielsen+

Would be a perfect 3rd liner for our team. Fills a need too. I don't think Schroeder is ready for that 3rd line spot. But all to him if he secures it.

[dbaz]

possible he does go to nyi especially with vishnovsky gone now. but at this point its hard to tell which player on nyi is the odd man out. tavares, moulson, grabner, boyes, strome, ullstrom, nelson, nielsen, bailey, niederreiter, okoposo. dont think they want to make a 3rd line out of all of those guys but it seems all of them will be in the nhl this year

[Harvey Specter]

I feel like we're going to see a lot of injuries because of this shorten season, every team is going to come out hard seeing how there's only going to be less than 50 games.

[JunFan]

I predict Kesler will never reach the 40+ goals ever again.

[spideyv2]

CDC is just fucking terrible

Regarding a Kesler trade

Would not trade a guy who hasn't even hit his prime yet and already had a 40 goal Selke season.

They would have to give us 2 of their top 4 young forwards to pry him away.

Do you really think Kesler hasn't hit his prime yet? Do you really think he'll reach or surpass 40 goals in a season again? The guy is 28 and has already had 2-3 major surgeries. He's already in his prime.

This was the absurd proposal that sparked the dumb comment

To edm

Kesler
Edler
Hamhuis

To Van

Eberle
Hall
Smid

[jeedee]

First of all why are you on CDC brah?

Second of all...why are you EVEN on CDC

Third....why.are.you.on.CDC.

You should read the threads on Vancouver Canucks - HFBoards . They come up with reasonable discussions unlike that retard facility called CDC.