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Old 01-26-2013, 10:44 PM   #6176
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:16 PM   #6178
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But where do you draw the line? If every time someone hits one of your top players with a CLEAN hit, you quickly go and try to beat him down "to stand up" for your teammate, then the league might as well just ban hitting all together
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But where do you draw the line? If every time someone hits one of your top players with a CLEAN hit, you quickly go and try to beat him down "to stand up" for your teammate, then the league might as well just ban hitting all together
Exactly. I think if players do instigate a fight because of a big clean hit, the instigator should be tossed.

It wouldn't eliminate these type of fights, but it would probably reduce it drastically.
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I guess it's a fine line. What can you do? I'm not arguing that the hit wasn't clean. If the team ignores the hit, especially if the guy who was hit is your captain and one of your top players, you'll look weak. Respond to the hit and you might take an instigator penalty.
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But where do you draw the line? If every time someone hits one of your top players with a CLEAN hit, you quickly go and try to beat him down "to stand up" for your teammate, then the league might as well just ban hitting all together
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Exactly. I think if players do instigate a fight because of a big clean hit, the instigator should be tossed.

It wouldn't eliminate these type of fights, but it would probably reduce it drastically.
That type of hit... is one of the many reasons why Scott Stevens left a legacy
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:12 AM   #6182
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I like big clean hits, I like fights. I don't like guys gooning after a guy that throws a big hit. If it's a dirty hit, sure stand up for your teammate. IMO it's not really standing up for your teammate when your teammate makes a sloppy play, has his head down, and serves himself up on a platter.
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The thing is, if your teammate, especially your captain or star player gets hit hard like that.
First thing in your mind is to go after the hitter, not think,

"let me see... was that a clean hit or not? Let me take that in consideration before I decide whether to go after that guy..."
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The thing is, if your teammate, especially your captain or star player gets hit hard like that.
First thing in your mind is to go after the hitter, not think,

"let me see... was that a clean hit or not? Let me take that in consideration before I decide whether to go after that guy..."
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yeah I get it, like the odds are O'Byrne never even saw the hit and all he see is his captain laid the fuck out, you going to make a scene regardless so you don't look weak. My issue with him was he basically ran up on stuart from a mile away and had his shield on. I know the game is going to be emotional and all but the double minor he got from that which could have been avoided while getting Stuart to fight, pretty much killed the avs. Until that powerplay SJ had 1 shot on goal and had nothing going for them.
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yeah I get it, like the odds are O'Byrne never even saw the hit and all he see is his captain laid the fuck out, you going to make a scene regardless so you don't look weak. My issue with him was he basically ran up on stuart from a mile away and had his shield on. I know the game is going to be emotional and all but the double minor he got from that which could have been avoided while getting Stuart to fight, pretty much killed the avs. Until that powerplay SJ had 1 shot on goal and had nothing going for them.
At that point, it doesn't matter if theres a visor on the guy or not
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At that point, it doesn't matter if theres a visor on the guy or not
what do you mean? If he would have taken his helmet off before going to murder Stuart he would have only gotten 2 for instigating right? but it says he got an extra 2 for instigating with a visor on.
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what do you mean? If he would have taken his helmet off before going to murder Stuart he would have only gotten 2 for instigating right? but it says he got an extra 2 for instigating with a visor on.
the visor rule is new to this season
i think its dumb imo... should be equal with or without
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I thought only European and French players wore visors

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Back in the 90's only cocky players with swag wore visors...
Bure fedorov kariya fleury forsberg selanne... Dam they will cool back then
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“LA is going to remember this. They are going to remember this to the dying day. That you don’t do stuff like that.”

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Yakupov's reaction was fine. The fact he was robbed of the tying goal made it reasonable.
However, the fact that he literally ignored and skated through all his teammates to celebrate by himself kinda shows what kind of person he is. Obviously that's gna cause him to be alienated by his own teammates one day.
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Given the situation, it's fine.

6th goal in a 6-1 blowout is another story.
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Yakupov did that because Quick said something to him to piss him off. Early in the game.
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