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Mike Oxbig 04-03-2013 08:04 PM
LA D core was serious business during with Mitchell Greene and Scuderi all defensive defensemen. Allowing Doughty, Voynov and Martinez to chip in offensively.

westopher 04-03-2013 08:41 PM
8-2 oilers. My god I hope they make the playoffs.

nah 04-03-2013 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EmperorIS (Post 8203124)
Can't have Euros playing D... we need strong MURICAN BOYS
like Komisarek? :fuckthatshit:

UFO 04-03-2013 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 8203121)
LA was not an 8th place team. They had most of the pieces, but underachieved until Sutter was hired and Carter was acquired. They were supposed to be challenging for one of the top spots in the conference all season. One could argue that the Canucks are underachieving this year, but we did not make a coaching change and we have not acquired a marquee player, like Carter (though Roy could qualify.)

NJ was an anomaly, no doubt. They barely got by Florida and they were lucky they didn't have to go through Boston or Pittsburgh in their run.
You could call them what they want, underachievers, whatever. Had they not made the playoffs even, none of their late season push or their run would have mattered. There are underachieveing teams every year, who look good on paper but just can't pull it together for one reason or another

OGCStrike 04-03-2013 09:30 PM
i have a feeling calgary is going to end up like a columbus 2.0.. :badpokerface:

Gilgamesh 04-03-2013 09:37 PM
^ There's no way they can mess up a top 5 selection unless they go off the board and grab a goalie....

OGCStrike 04-03-2013 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Gilgamesh (Post 8203227)
^ There's no way they can mess up a top 5 selection unless they go off the board and grab a goalie....
after they chose that nobody in the first round, last year... dunno bout that:badpokerface:

Blah_Teggie 04-03-2013 10:08 PM
Can someone please educate me on why GMs hand out NTC's? I can't think of one possible benefit for the team. We've seen it time and time again with Luongo, Iginla, Nash, Heatley etc that in the end, the team will either ask you to waive it or submit a list of teams you will and will not go to. So why hand them out? In the end, it always handcuffs the team.

spideyv2 04-03-2013 10:10 PM
rofl Jankowski, too early to write him off tbh

spideyv2 04-03-2013 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Blah_Teggie (Post 8203244)
Can someone please educate me on why GMs hand out NTC's? I can't think of one possible benefit for the team. We've seen it time and time again with Luongo, Iginla, Nash, Heatley etc that in the end, the team will either ask you to waive it or submit a list of teams you will and will not go to. So why hand them out? In the end, it always handcuffs the team.
gives the player some sense of security

Blah_Teggie 04-03-2013 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jayare604 (Post 8203249)
gives the player some sense of security
Well yah, that's the obvious answer. But it's not like player X is not gonna sign with you if you don't offer him the NTC. How many players actually spend their entire careers on one team? Probably not many. In some cases, like Luongo's, it comes back to bite the player in the ass. Take Iginla for example, the situation in Calgary has changed. He's not what the team needs anymore. They wanna get younger and shed salary.

Ludepower 04-03-2013 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blah_Teggie (Post 8203244)
Can someone please educate me on why GMs hand out NTC's? I can't think of one possible benefit for the team. We've seen it time and time again with Luongo, Iginla, Nash, Heatley etc that in the end, the team will either ask you to waive it or submit a list of teams you will and will not go to. So why hand them out? In the end, it always handcuffs the team.
Because players with NTC are premium players who have leverage in their negotiations. You cant hate the player for wanting the best possible contract.
Blame the GM for handing them out.

Ch28 04-03-2013 10:22 PM
Players give up term & money for NTCs all the time. That's why Canucks have so many players with NTC, because Gillis hands them out in return for leaving money on the table.
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spideyv2 04-03-2013 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Blah_Teggie (Post 8203255)
Well yah, that's the obvious answer. But it's not like player X is not gonna sign with you if you don't offer him the NTC. How many players actually spend their entire careers on one team? Probably not many. In some cases, like Luongo's, it comes back to bite the player in the ass. Take Iginla for example, the situation in Calgary has changed. He's not what the team needs anymore. They wanna get younger and shed salary.
It's because before being traded, this forces the GM to actually approach the player and have him give the thumbs up.

If you were an elite athlete playing for the Hawks, would you really want to be traded to a bottom feeding team like the Calgary Flames?

Mike Oxbig 04-03-2013 10:55 PM
http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2010-09...4157967346.png

Who won the trade?

New York Rangers traded:
Marian Gaborik
Steven Delisle
Blake Parlett
Brandon Dubinsky
Artem Anisimov
Tim Erixon
1st round selection in 2013.


Columbus Blue Jackets traded
Rick Nash
Steve Delisle
a conditional 3rd round selection
Derick Brassard
Derek Dorsett
John Moore
6th round selection in 2014.

Tim Budong 04-03-2013 10:57 PM
Luongo staying might not be the best decision, but its going to be a good test moving forward this season. If this team doesn't take a hint after that emotional and honest presser, then something needs to be done. He might not be playing, but he's still an integral part of all the success this team has.

One has to wonder how long the leash is on Schneider right now. Any thing short of at least 3 rounds of Playoff hockey could spell trouble for the core.

kwy 04-03-2013 11:51 PM
jesus the oilers just shit on the flames..if you're a flames fan..feelsbadman.jpg

Not really looking forward to playing them tomorrow..

pastarocket 04-04-2013 06:01 AM
According to Canucks.com, , it's Luongo's birthday today.
-sent him a tweet to give him words of encouragement:

@strombone1 Happy birthday Lu! As a longtime Canucks fan, it's a great experience to see you play as a Canuck. Great things happening this yr.
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7seven 04-04-2013 08:23 AM
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Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks 45s
Pavel Bure will conduct media availability in @RogersArena this morning. THE Pavel Bure. We'll have the coverage.
Pavel's in town :fullofwin:

Gumby 04-04-2013 08:32 AM
Ahh suddenly I am reminded of Pavel Bure's April Fool's Day joke a few years ago... :)

pastarocket 04-04-2013 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 8203415)
Pavel's in town :fullofwin:
The Russian Rocket is in town to work with Canucks charities as per Squire Barnes of Global news:

Pavel Bure Coming to Vancouver to work with Canucks Charities. First step towards retiring #10? | CanucksArmy

Perhaps Pavel's jersey retirement ceremony is happening soon. :fullofwin:

Bure's close friend Gino Odjick sent a tweet about Pavel being in Vancouver:

Gino Odjick @ginodjick
@zmanzorro9 When&If Pavel Bure Comes2 Vancouver..I Am Sure The @VanCanucks PR Department Will Let The Fine Folks Of Vancouver Know!! Xo:)

fsy82 04-04-2013 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8203422)
The Russian Rocket is in town to work with Canucks charities as per Squire Barnes of Global news:

Pavel Bure Coming to Vancouver to work with Canucks Charities. First step towards retiring #10? | CanucksArmy

Perhaps Pavel's jersey retirement ceremony is happening soon. :fullofwin:

Bure's close friend Gino Odjick sent a tweet about Pavel being in Vancouver:

Gino Odjick @ginodjick
@zmanzorro9 When&If Pavel Bure Comes2 Vancouver..I Am Sure The @VanCanucks PR Department Will Let The Fine Folks Of Vancouver Know!! Xo:)
weird this off topic but zmanzorro9 is a friend of mine..lol..weird to see his twitter name on RS..haha

Blah_Teggie 04-04-2013 09:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayare604 (Post 8203270)
It's because before being traded, this forces the GM to actually approach the player and have him give the thumbs up.

If you were an elite athlete playing for the Hawks, would you really want to be traded to a bottom feeding team like the Calgary Flames?
I wouldn't wanna be traded to Calgary even if they were winning!
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mickz 04-04-2013 10:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8203422)
The Russian Rocket is in town to work with Canucks charities as per Squire Barnes of Global news:

Pavel Bure Coming to Vancouver to work with Canucks Charities. First step towards retiring #10? | CanucksArmy

Perhaps Pavel's jersey retirement ceremony is happening soon. :fullofwin:

Bure's close friend Gino Odjick sent a tweet about Pavel being in Vancouver:

Gino Odjick @ginodjick
@zmanzorro9 When&If Pavel Bure Comes2 Vancouver..I Am Sure The @VanCanucks PR Department Will Let The Fine Folks Of Vancouver Know!! Xo:)
Any announcement short of a jersey retirement today will be disappointing.

iwantaskyline 04-04-2013 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 8203288)
Luongo staying might not be the best decision, but its going to be a good test moving forward this season. If this team doesn't take a hint after that emotional and honest presser, then something needs to be done. He might not be playing, but he's still an integral part of all the success this team has.

One has to wonder how long the leash is on Schneider right now. Any thing short of at least 3 rounds of Playoff hockey could spell trouble for the core.
That made zero sense.


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