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This is roughly of what I remembered about Luongo in his 6 years here.
Yr. 1 - He was god like. I remembered him getting 47 wins almost beating out Brodeur for the Vezina. He won the Jack Adams for AV. Crazy playoffs against Dallas. Then the last game against Anaheim, he had the "equipment problem" and lost the game because he lost sight of the puck thinking there is a penalty.
Yr. 2 - Missed the playoffs. I think this was the year his wife was pregnant and he had to fly out and it became a distraction to him.
Yr. 3 - Swept the Blues but lost to Chicago. Couldn't beat big buff and kane.
Yr. 4 - Beat Kings, lost to Chicago again.
Yr. 5 - Went all the way to the playoffs. Almost had a meltdown with the Chicago series. "Pumping tires" He just couldn't buy a save in Boston.
Yr. 6 - Played really well against LA. Lost job to Schneider.
IMO, he really set the bar high from his first year. Ever since missing the playoffs then going through the Chicago series where he was lit up a few times. Going to the Stanley Cup finals brought back a lot of support until he started talking about pumping tires and end up losing 2-0 series lead and the cup.
Reading the comments hurt my brain. Why do people in TO perceive Luongo as a bag of pucks and insist we take on a bad contract in return. We're not trading Mason Raymond here.
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According to @Real_ESPNLeBrun on @Team1040 there is some new "traction" on the #Luongo trade watch for #canucks. Happy vacation Pierre!
Wonder what it is, if not just the Lu comments earlier?
It would be sick if we got Bjugstad. From what I read, he seems to have Getzlaf upside, and at the very worst he'll turn out to be a Gaustad type player.
No changes were made to their game plan despite not being able to score or stop goals. Their style of play couldn't match up to the size of the Bruins and AV made no changes to even try and combat this.
Sure he did. He threw line 3 and 4 players names in a hat, drew them out, and made new line combo's. Then he was surprised it made no difference, because he didn't give those guys ice time.
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How do you combat size if you don't have players to go toe to toe?
Big guys are usually slower. Keep the puck off the board to neutralize the size disadvantage. Shoot pucks for rebounds and play the rebounds instead of right at the goalie's chest.
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I don't think AV is to blame for us not winning the cup. You'd have to be a fool to think that IMO. Coaches provide game plans, strategies etc but its the player who has to match the effort level and sheer determination to win. Canucks didn't do that if you ask me.
AV isn't to solely to blame. We can only guess what kind of game plans and strategies he came up with, but we know that translated into nothing on the ice. A good coach can make these game plans, but he can also make the most of his players for the greater good of the team. If he had a great game plan and the players weren't executing, part of the blame goes to players but coach has to take a hit for not getting the players to execute as well, especially since it was so consistent.
[Laughs] "I'd rather not talk specific right now. I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on … I've always said I like playing in Chicago."
No, seriously, would he play for Blackhawks?
"That's a good question. I think there's a lot of cities that are great to play in, and Chicago's definitely one of them. But you have to realize that it works both ways. There's not only me involved in this decisions. It's also a question if the Blackhawks would be interested, if the team would be interested in trading me there and if I wanted to go there."
How do you combat size if you don't have players to go toe to toe?
As for Ted Nolan, he's fucked up pretty bad both times he's been to the NHL, he won't have another gig in the big leagues
That's exactly what I'm saying. You can't go head to head and play a size game because the Bruins will dominate. What did AV do? He stuck with the same game plan even though it wasn't very effective.
What he and his coaching staff's should've done was study the game tapes more carefully, find a weakness and exploit it. They were praying to god they would stay discipline and hopefully get a PP out of it... too bad they played even worse on the PP.
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Originally Posted by Nodnarb
I don't think AV is to blame for us not winning the cup. You'd have to be a fool to think that IMO. Coaches provide game plans, strategies etc but its the player who has to match the effort level and sheer determination to win. Canucks didn't do that if you ask me.
Coaches have the ability to bring out the best of their players. This didn't happen.
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So basicaly you think AV should have gone on the ice himself after Rome got suspended or something like that?
Have you ever strapped on the skates and played hockey a day in your life?
As a coach he wasn't able to find a strategy to counter the Bruins' size game. It will be very difficult to win if you're forced to play the other team's game.
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I truly hope the fans will do something to show their gratitude when Lu ends up leaving. Even seeing him off at the airport and thanking him for his hard work would be a nice, respectful gesture.
Love him or hate him as a Canuck, he is the winningest goalie in our team's history.
This city will never be satisfied with Roberto Luongo until he starts scoring the goals as well. He gets too much of the blame when the team in front of him disappears. The majority of the fan base today never had to put up with the mediocre goaltending through the late 90s to early 2000s. They cannot appreciate an elite level goaltender because of that.
I think some of you over estimate the effect of the head coach
With that said I do think AV could have done better in past times
Exactly. People expect so much, which is why I made the comment about him getting out there and playing himself. Aside from that, what more can he do when his team is sucking it down?
People talk about him getting "outcoached" when really it's the Canucks that are getting "outplayed". He can juggle lines, and has tried, yet when the players suck what good will that do? People complain about juggling lines when it doesn't work!
This city will never be satisfied with Roberto Luongo until he starts scoring the goals as well. He gets too much of the blame when the team in front of him disappears. The majority of the fan base today never had to put up with the mediocre goaltending through the late 90s to early 2000s. They cannot appreciate an elite level goaltender because of that.
I always chuckle when I hear this. Only because it gives me an excuse to post this again.
So wonder everyone in Vancouver likes Schneider. He meets fanbase expectations!
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Exactly. People expect so much, which is why I made the comment about him getting out there and playing himself. Aside from that, what more can he do when his team is sucking it down?
People talk about him getting "outcoached" when really it's the Canucks that are getting "outplayed". He can juggle lines, and has tried, yet when the players suck what good will that do? People complain about juggling lines when it doesn't work!
The players aren't producing and line juggling isn't working.
Therefore we can automatically conclude the team is SOL regardless of whatever the coach does?
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