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jeedee 06-04-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8252770)
The Canucks have never gone after home grown talent.

Dan Hamhuis and Jason Garrison have something else to say... :troll:

originalhypa 06-04-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8252434)
I wonder how interested in Luongo Pittsburgh will be if they go out in 4 due to shitty goaltending

I got thinking about that this morning.
But Lu's recent history with the Bruins isn't that good to say the least. What the Pen's need is a goalie like Holtby from the Caps. He didn't take any shit from the Bruins, and they crumbled like bullies tend to do.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1083487/pev.gif


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Originally Posted by b0unce. [?] (Post 8252688)
Anyone know where I can find this locally?

[IMG]Stamkos shirt[/IMG]

The hockey shop had one the last time I went there, about 2 weeks ago.
I love the Bolts, but it still surprised me that they had a few of the top scorers in the league, yet they still shit the bed.
:rukidding:

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8252770)
The Canucks have never gone after home grown talent.

Agreed

They're more interested in Swedes and Yanks that couldn't give a fxxk about the Canucks.

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Originally Posted by jeedee (Post 8252781)
Dan Hamhuis and Jason Garrison have something else to say... :troll:

Please.....

Garrison and Hamhuis were free agent signings, and they practically begged MG to bring them to Vancouver. A big issue I have with Gillis is that he's an active agent in the NHL. There have been a few conflicts over the years with the power he wields over negotiations and the players he represents.

But the thing that really gets me about Gillis is this.....

http://www.vanmag.com/sites/files/ad...illis-add1.jpg


I HATE the Bruins.
:fuckyea:

SkinnyPupp 06-04-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jeedee (Post 8252781)
Dan Hamhuis and Jason Garrison have something else to say... :troll:

Yeah they go for home talent when it means getting a discount on their contract :rukidding:

Not really racist! 06-04-2013 10:51 AM

Off the top of my head, the only legit late rounders we drafted were Bieksa and Hansen..

:lol

CRS 06-04-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Not really racist! (Post 8252804)
Off the top of my head, the only legit late rounders we drafted were Bieksa and Hansen..

:lol

Edler.

dbaz 06-04-2013 11:01 AM

the amount of decent players from bc are few, so basically you are shitting on canucks for not being able to draft the 1 decent bc player maybe every year.
turris was 3rd overall
nugent hopkins 1st
price 5th
ladd 4th
connolly 6th
kane 4th
weber 49th (we got kesler at 23 and had 60th.)
lucic at 50th (we traded 31st and 46th carney and a goalie? fkin nonuts)
j.benn at 159th (p.white, ellington and nonis traded most of other picks)

the fact is besides the nonis fuck ups, that canucks had no chance of getting other bc talent

Gumby 06-04-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by originalhypa (Post 8252794)
I HATE the Bruins.
:fuckyea:

I hate the Bruins so much that I posted on someone's wall: "I'd kiss a dude if that meant the Bruins wouldn't win the cup". :accepted:

originalhypa 06-04-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dbaz (Post 8252822)
the fact is besides the nonis fuck ups, that canucks had no chance of getting other bc talent

Not necessarily BC grown talent, but Canadian talent in general.
My issue with the Canucks is that our talent is not Canadian born and bred.

Kesler, Schneider, Booth, Schroeder, Ballard, Higgins, Alberts and Sestito are all American. Edler and the Sedins are from Sweden. Hansen and Jensen are Danes.

That leaves Bieksa, Burrows, Raymond, Lappy, Lu, and Roy as our Canadians.

Burrows is despised, Bieksa and Roy underperformed, Raymond was broken (although he was good this past season) and they want to move Lu. We have 19 Canadians on the team, and few stood out last year. That said, few Canucks stood out...




Let's look at the Bruins roster.
They also have 19 Canadians on their team, but look at some of these names!
Marchand, Lucic, Boychuk, Bergeron, Peverly, Ferrence, Horton, Paille, Seguin, Thornton..... Those are real Canadian hockey players.
The Bruins have 5 Americans on their roster, and they're nobodies.

Same goes for the Blackhawks.
They have 16 Canadians on the roster, with names like Crawford, Seabrook, Toews, Sharp, Emery.
They have 8 Yanks, most notably Kane. The rest are inconsequential.

I don't know if that means anything. But it's interesting to talk about.


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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 8252828)
I hate the Bruins so much that I posted on someone's wall: "I'd kiss a dude if that meant the Bruins wouldn't win the cup". :accepted:

:fuckyea:

You're a braver man than I am.

:lol

dbaz 06-04-2013 11:26 AM

if you are going to count schroeder, sesito, alberts and jensen, then i think you forgot a bunch of canadians. kassian, garrison, hamhuis, tanev, corrado, pinnizotto, ebbett, barker, weise. there are more canadians on the team than one thinks its just plugs like pinnizotto, ebbett and barker need to be replaced with better talent which should happen this year if we free cap space

Mike Oxbig 06-04-2013 11:44 AM

No bc/vancouver born player want to play in vancouver until late or prime of their career. They most likely want to fuck around in other town before coming back home for a discount (hamhuis, garrison). With the spray paint crap at the serbian church no way would lucic ever come play for the Canucks, although he loves this city and the Canucks. :fuckthatshit:

Not really racist! 06-04-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 8252810)
Edler.

3rd round isn't late at all, you still see some potential NHL-calibre talent

Mike Oxbig 06-04-2013 12:05 PM

Mike Richards out for game 3... time to kill myself

Not really racist! 06-04-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Earl (Post 8252880)
Mike Richards out for game 3... time to kill myself

bye, it was nice knowing you

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Mike Oxbig 06-04-2013 12:18 PM

:troll:

jeedee 06-04-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8252797)
Yeah they go for home talent when it means getting a discount on their contract :rukidding:

Whats wrong with saving cap space? :troll:

We need every dollar when Booth and Ballard are a waste of cap space/overpaid

originalhypa 06-04-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dbaz (Post 8252841)
if you are going to count schroeder, sesito, alberts and jensen, then i think you forgot a bunch of canadians. kassian, garrison, hamhuis, tanev, corrado, pinnizotto, ebbett, barker, weise.

But that wouldn't help my argument!

:lol

Srsly tho, I'd love to see Kassian and Weise put pucks in the net, while Corrado destroys any other team that tests his blue line. Oddly enough, we're above the league average in both height and weight, and while the Sedins are still referred to as the "sisters", they're not small guys.

Check out the team stats on height, weight, and age.
james mirtle: 2013 NHL teams by weight, height and age - A hockey journalist's blog

Oddly enough, Calgary has the lightest team average. That surprised me, along with Edmonton being a pretty big collective group.



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there are more canadians on the team than one thinks its just plugs like pinnizotto, ebbett and barker need to be replaced with better talent which should happen this year if we free cap space
Agreed 100%
I really wish we had signed Shea Weber. He would be a hell of an acquisition for the boys in blue and green.

:(

murd0c 06-04-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jeedee (Post 8252781)
Dan Hamhuis and Jason Garrison have something else to say... :troll:

We are talking about drafting home grown players here ;)

Sentinel 06-04-2013 01:47 PM

One thing that bugs me is, with a whl team in our backyard. The canucks don't seek to draft any of them. Other then connauton... passed up on all the other guys.
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jeedee 06-04-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sentinel (Post 8252944)
One thing that bugs me is, with a whl team in our backyard. The canucks don't seek to draft any of them. Other then connauton... passed up on all the other guys.
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TECHNICALLY the Canucks have selected former Vancouver Giant and Killarney allumni Mario Bliznak :lol

Mario Bliznak hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

RiceIntegraRS 06-04-2013 02:25 PM

Yes lets talk about homegrown talent we could of drafted after they become successful so it makes us look smarter than our scouts. Pretty stupid if u ask me.
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trancehead 06-04-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by originalhypa (Post 8252794)

haha thats fucking badass. wont forget that

wish our team had that competitive spirit. yes its more so of a NA hockey player attribute

highfive 06-04-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by originalhypa (Post 8252893)
Agreed 100%
I really wish we had signed Shea Weber. He would be a hell of an acquisition for the boys in blue and green.

:(

Fucking Philly had to fuck things up and sign him to a 14 year contract.

Gillis was going to do a one year. And watch Nashville match and Weber becomes UFA the following season. Or not match and we have him.

jeedee 06-04-2013 02:59 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL8UQ_qCMAElmIS.png

:lawl:

Tim Budong 06-04-2013 03:28 PM

are we really on the topic of BC Born and bred hockey players... Because that is pretty damn retarded. You draft whats best for the team, all those players are great, and even if our scout staff had their eyes on them, if they didn't fit what they need then thats too bad

PeanutButter 06-04-2013 03:47 PM

From the Canucks on FB.

"Glory days. A Canucks baseball team photo has surfaced and we need your help getting to the bottom of it.

Read more: http://bit.ly/12rxc8k"

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...65942706_n.jpg

Some of the guess are pretty good/pretty funny
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater


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