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Old 06-18-2013, 06:06 PM   #18476
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^He cannot rejoin the team he was bought out from for at least 1 year, whether through free agency or trade.
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Wow, pretty surprising they're not going to buy out Bryzy. Guess management doesn't want to fess up that kind of dough right now.
Like how he told Carter he wasn't going to be traded.
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According to The Denver Post, Avlanche executive VP of hockey operations Joe Sakic said the team is leaning towards taking a forward if they end up keeping the first overall pick at the coming NHL Entry Draft. Jones and forward Nathan MacKinnon have spent most of the year being billed as the probable first pick on June 30th, and while many experts have Jones as the #1 skater prospect available, it appears that one of MacKinnon, Jonathan Drouin, or Alexander Barkov have caught the eye of the Avs.


Avs are goofing so hard. They desperately need a franchise dman in BBC Jones... I don't think their defense led by Erik "1st overall bust" Johnson is going to make things better.

And whats worse was they traded Shattenkirk for Johnson

Sure they COULD draft Mackinnon/Drouin/Barkov but will just end up like the Oilers--great offense, NO DEFENCE

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I myself, would go with Mackinnon but that's just me.. They could simply obtain D help via trade or FA (Maybe trade Stastny for a D) and have a C core of Duchene/Mackinnon/O'reilly

IMO Mackinnon is too good to pass up
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Easier said than done to acquire a franchise dman (a la Doughty/Pietrangelo/Weber etc).

It's all fun and games when you're scoring...till you get outscored like the Oilers.

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.....With Justin Schultz on D?

The Av's will simply become the next Oilers (IMO) if they decide to pick a forward
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They don't need a "franchise" D

Having Duchene/Mackinnon will be your franchise core

They could trade Stastny for a fairly good D, while not a franchise guy, it would be a good return. They could O'reilly to CGY too since they wanted him for any of their D (If they have any good ones at this point lol)

Maybe I'm just not a jones fan from the start so hearing this is kinda nice for me lol...


Give EDM better goaltending,and I can see them making noise
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But who really knows.. maybe Sakic is just being sneaky and trade the #1 a couple spots down and still get jones 3rd or something just to get an extra asset
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Easier said than done to acquire a franchise dman (a la Doughty/Pietrangelo/Weber etc).
None of these guys are 1st overall. They just happened to pan out great.. I mean Shea weber was 49th overall for crying out loud lol

Hedman was picked 2nd ovr and IMO hasn't been that great since being drafted 4years ago (don't get me wrong, i like hedman)...

Edit : Letang rumours flying around now that he's on the block.. I wonder how much he's asking for his new contract lol.. 6.5? 7? per year

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I wonder how much he's asking for his new contract lol.. 6.5? 7? per year
According to Lebrun, Letang is seeking at least 7 mil per.
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Give EDM better goaltending,and I can see them making noise
EDM needs better centres. Nuge / Gagner / Horcoff / Belanger doesn't cut it.

They sit at the bottom for FO%.

Look at Boston. They were #1 in FO%. And Bergeron is going beast mode right now.
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I don't see how the Avs are goofing by not taking Jones. Depends on your philosophy. Do you draft based on need or based on best player available?
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apparently Michael Cammalleri has requested a trade, too bad hes overpaid at 6mil
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Avs are goofing so hard. They desperately need a franchise dman in BBC Jones....I don't think their defense led by Erik "1st overall bust" Johnson is going to make things better.

And whats worse was they traded Shattenkirk for Johnson

Sure they COULD draft Mackinnon/Drouin/Barkov but will just end up like the Oilers--great offense, NO DEFENCE

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Avs top 2 line up will look like this with statsny being shopped around

Landeskog ROR -
Drourin Duchene Parenteau

Maybe Avs want to trade down to get lower pick along with Carle++ (TBL) or Kulikov++(FLA)
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Gord Miller brought up some interesting part on the Avs and Seth Jones.

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My question is...can our Edler become that player?
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In the last 15 years, there has been 1 d-man take 1st overall, Erik Johnson in 2006. Much like goalies, D-men are developed and seasoned IMO, and solid scouting and drafting is a big part of that, but ultimately they need to be groomed and some luck also needs to play into it as well. How a d-man can pan out is much more difficult to predict than forwards typically. Looking back at 2006 where Johnson went first overall, out of the 9 d-men that got drafted in the first round, maybe 2 or 3 have become regular NHL caliber players, and none can be even closely considered as a game changer.

Point is a MacKinnon or even Drouin pick at 1st is a safer pick than Jones. Avs could drop down to #2 or 3 and get an NHL caliber d-man in return. Similar idea with drafting goalies first overall, unless they are clearly head and shoulders better than anybody else at #2 pick, which I don't feel Seth Jones is. Btw last 2 first overall goalies were MAF and DiPietro, just sayin
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we would be similar to 06 canes but canes depth were clutch with heart and determination

Canucks have none of that
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elder seems to actually have regressed so i wouldnt be asking him to be a number #1dman. hes still putting up the points but his mobility has gone way down, probably due to his surgery. as for dmen, taking them high in the draft is risky. boyle undrafted , keith, chara, subban, webber 2nd rnd, letang 3rd etc. . they are the 2nd hardest position to develop after goalies. safest pick would be the forward.
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My question is...can our Edler become that player?
He already is. 1 game out of every 6 or 7 though
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Lmao... I thought we already established that Edler will never become a #1 D...

Maybe he has a shot at it on a different team tho... youknowwhatimsayin?

I've said this before.. 9/10 teams will take MacKinnon over Jones
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